WEST HAM GET NEW GROUND

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Total disgrace, Shammers get new ground on the cheap, so lomg as they ground share with Little Mix, 1D and any other X-Factor related shite :roll:

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good for them.

that makes the spuds London's 4th biggest club doesn't it now LOL.

if they are still in the PL then a lot of London kids are going to be able to watch top class football (from the opposition) that otherwise wouldn't.

it'll also drop the crowds at the bowl and pressure our lot to drop prices. plus when we go down there we should get about 20,000 tickets lol.

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The positives:
- Should mean that we get a far bigger allocation than we currently get at Upton Park...
- Think the fact that it's the Olympic Stadium means that tourists are far more likely to go there than the Grove....
- And although West Ham won't have the large capital outlay, they are also likely to have to hand over rent and a portion of their gate receipts... And they don't get the revenue from stadium naming, concerts, Brazil friendlies etc.

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MK Gould wrote:The positives:
- Should mean that we get a far bigger allocation than we currently get at Upton Park...
- Think the fact that it's the Olympic Stadium means that tourists are far more likely to go there than the Grove....
- And although West Ham won't have the large capital outlay, they are also likely to have to hand over rent and a portion of their gate receipts... And they don't get the revenue from stadium naming, concerts, Brazil friendlies etc.
£2m a year rent apparently. Without doing the maths, that'll probably be paid off within a couple of home games?

The deal is brilliant for them.

Might make them more appealing to a billionaire as well... :o

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This is wrong on so many levels. Not only do they get a new stadium for15m they benefit from upgraded public transport services, they newton council and government funding that amounts to £80m. They pay £2m rent per year. Considering we paid £400m plus and fans have had to pay a fortune just makes this deal unfair on all clubs that are paying to upgrade their stadiums and have either gone into administration or been restricted by the debt. I still don't understand why they can't share with Leyton orient?
It was built for athletics and should remain that way.

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Nos89 wrote:I still don't understand why they can't share with Leyton orient?
My thoughts too.
Would it be so terrible?

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QuartzGooner wrote:
Nos89 wrote:I still don't understand why they can't share with Leyton orient?
My thoughts too.
Would it be so terrible?
There would be nothing terrible about Barry Hearn shutting the fuck up.

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At the end of the day it's another classic English ground that'll be replaced by a block of flats or a Tesco. And it's not as if they really need the olympic stadium. Sad.

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I think they'll get good enough crowds in a 54000 seat stadium.

us, man u, liverpool, spurs, chelsea, willl all see a big attendance and I can only imagine for the other games they won't get any less than they do now -and probably more if only because people like shiny new stadiums with multiple retail possibilities :banghead: and perhaps with good deals for family tickets, concessions.

for west ham it's a no-lose situation - other than the fact that, like us, they are flushing part of their history down the toliet. :barscarf:

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Also, I guess that West Ham's owner are thinking that there's a chance they'll be able to buy the ground cheaply when the public authorities need a bit of quick cash.

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Top Londoner wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:Pretty shocking how the taxpayer has been rinsed and worst ham only pay £15m, would have been worse if the spuds had got the ground and given them an unfair advantage financially.

I couldn't give a fuck if they can fill it, im more annoyed money is being taken from my pay packet to pay for it.

Think you might find that the residents of Newham are actually subsidising this little club and the barrow boys. I seem to recall that (one of the poorest local borough councils, that did not even benefit from the Olympics) they were going to receive a £50-60m subsidy to facilitate their move.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danho ... oalie-too/

Thats not true, this article explains it better than I do. But one thing I would say is where does local government finance come from 1 from council tax and 2 from central government. So we are financing this deal out of our own pockets.

As the article also pointed out, the risks we took through self financing our move and yet worst ham are underwritten by the taxpayer. Can you now see where David Dein was coming from, get someone else to pay for a stadium and we make a minsicule contribution and rake it in. Arsenal at wembley would have made the directors richer than they are today.
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g88ner wrote:
MK Gould wrote:The positives:
- Should mean that we get a far bigger allocation than we currently get at Upton Park...
- Think the fact that it's the Olympic Stadium means that tourists are far more likely to go there than the Grove....
- And although West Ham won't have the large capital outlay, they are also likely to have to hand over rent and a portion of their gate receipts... And they don't get the revenue from stadium naming, concerts, Brazil friendlies etc.
£2m a year rent apparently. Without doing the maths, that'll probably be paid off within a couple of home games?

The deal is brilliant for them.

Might make them more appealing to a billionaire as well... :o
Which is precisely the logic Dein used in promoting Wembley as an alternative to a debt burdened balance sheet. Still that made him a wanker apparently.....but clearly the Hammers are financial wizards

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SteveO 35 wrote:
g88ner wrote:
MK Gould wrote:The positives:
- Should mean that we get a far bigger allocation than we currently get at Upton Park...
- Think the fact that it's the Olympic Stadium means that tourists are far more likely to go there than the Grove....
- And although West Ham won't have the large capital outlay, they are also likely to have to hand over rent and a portion of their gate receipts... And they don't get the revenue from stadium naming, concerts, Brazil friendlies etc.
£2m a year rent apparently. Without doing the maths, that'll probably be paid off within a couple of home games?

The deal is brilliant for them.

Might make them more appealing to a billionaire as well... :o
Which is precisely the logic Dein used in promoting Wembley as an alternative to a debt burdened balance sheet. Still that made him a wanker apparently.....but clearly the Hammers are financial wizards
Funny I was thinking exactly the same thing, thank god the spuds didnt suceed.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:
g88ner wrote:
MK Gould wrote:The positives:
- Should mean that we get a far bigger allocation than we currently get at Upton Park...
- Think the fact that it's the Olympic Stadium means that tourists are far more likely to go there than the Grove....
- And although West Ham won't have the large capital outlay, they are also likely to have to hand over rent and a portion of their gate receipts... And they don't get the revenue from stadium naming, concerts, Brazil friendlies etc.
£2m a year rent apparently. Without doing the maths, that'll probably be paid off within a couple of home games?

The deal is brilliant for them.

Might make them more appealing to a billionaire as well... :o
Which is precisely the logic Dein used in promoting Wembley as an alternative to a debt burdened balance sheet. Still that made him a wanker apparently.....but clearly the Hammers are financial wizards
Funny I was thinking exactly the same thing, thank god the spuds didnt suceed.
That's the big upside. The Spuds are fucked in terms of upgrading their swamp. The total costs of that project could end up at £800m. They'd be burdened by debt piles for years unless bankrolled by a new owner. Shame. They might as well buy the whole of Haringey with that money and still have £799m of change

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SteveO 35 wrote:
nut flush gooner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:
g88ner wrote:
MK Gould wrote:The positives:
- Should mean that we get a far bigger allocation than we currently get at Upton Park...
- Think the fact that it's the Olympic Stadium means that tourists are far more likely to go there than the Grove....
- And although West Ham won't have the large capital outlay, they are also likely to have to hand over rent and a portion of their gate receipts... And they don't get the revenue from stadium naming, concerts, Brazil friendlies etc.
£2m a year rent apparently. Without doing the maths, that'll probably be paid off within a couple of home games?

The deal is brilliant for them.

Might make them more appealing to a billionaire as well... :o
Which is precisely the logic Dein used in promoting Wembley as an alternative to a debt burdened balance sheet. Still that made him a wanker apparently.....but clearly the Hammers are financial wizards
Funny I was thinking exactly the same thing, thank god the spuds didnt suceed.
That's the big upside. The Spuds are fucked in terms of upgrading their swamp. The total costs of that project could end up at £800m. They'd be burdened by debt piles for years unless bankrolled by a new owner. Shame. They might as well buy the whole of Haringey with that money and still have £799m of change
Exactamundo, to riot proof tottingham high road would cost billions ! Seriously thought the spuds know that unless they make a serious contribution to regenerating the area which is one of the biggest kasi's in london, they havent got a cat in hells chance of getting planning through. Arsenal have made a good job of regenerating the area around the ground. Certainly holloway road isnt as bad as it used to be.

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