so no more patronising "ireland fans have added so much colour and vibrance to these finals" from itv/skySteveO 35 wrote:Scotland, Wales and Ireland aren't coming
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so no more patronising "ireland fans have added so much colour and vibrance to these finals" from itv/skySteveO 35 wrote:Scotland, Wales and Ireland aren't coming
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Doesn't really matter how good he's gonna be in 10 years, or 5 years, or even 2 years. Surely you pick the players that give you the best chance, Baines and Cole clear choice imo.1989 wrote:Shaw is brill mate. Will be world class no question. I too I don't buy into the English young talent hype the way the media love to do but Shaw really is the real deal.northbank123 wrote:I just do not buy into the assessment of the level Luke Shaw is at currently. Before he'd even kicked a ball in the PL and without even seeing him play pundits were falling over themselves to say he was going to be world class and England's left-back for a decade.
He's got massive potential and he's a decent enough left-back. Maybe he will turn out to be class and be England's left-back for a decade. But the hype around him now is similar (although even more intense) to what is was with Kyle Walker a few years ago. His defending is not really scrutinised at all, as is par for the course with most defenders outside top 4 clubs. He is absolutely rapid but I am sick of hearing about what an attacking threat he is. Not everything can be measured in stats but 33 PL starts, 0 goals and 2 assists in one of the better attacking sides in the league hardly backs that up.
When I watched Southampton v Everton there was the usual *****-fest over him on Sky. Clyne had an absolute stormer and for the second goal put in a cracking cross that would have had the commentators grabbing for the tissues if it had come from the other full-back.
I'm not one for selecting players on reputation but I'd take Coleover him, don't care how negative it seems. Cole was a bit shaky first 20 against Liverpool but despite not playing much this year still came in for two massive games at Vicente Calderon and Anfield and showed he can be part of an excellent defensive unit. If you have this fantasy that England full-backs with no end product are going to go bombing forward without consequence and fire England into the latter stages of the tournament, take Shaw. If you want a defensively solid full-back who can deputise reliably for Baines, take Cole. Even if he is a gigantic prick.
If not him, then Gibbo. Baines can fuck off, Cole is old and had his day.
Sorry, mate - can't see it.1989 wrote:I think we can do something at this World Cup. We need to play to our strength which is pace. Sterling and Ox on the wings and Sturridge upfront, with Rooney playmaking. Hit them on the counter.
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Johnson-------------Cahill-------------Jags------------------Shaw
----------------------Gerrard--------Wilshere----------------------
Sterling-----------------------Rooney--------------------------Ox
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We could surprise a few with that team imo.
Then you have the likes of Lallana, Henderson, Milner, Lambert, Welbeck as bench options.
What I like about that team is that it's free of any Spurs c*nts.
You Ewoks are such bitter little fellasDB10GOONER wrote:Sorry, mate - can't see it.1989 wrote:I think we can do something at this World Cup. We need to play to our strength which is pace. Sterling and Ox on the wings and Sturridge upfront, with Rooney playmaking. Hit them on the counter.
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Johnson-------------Cahill-------------Jags------------------Shaw
----------------------Gerrard--------Wilshere----------------------
Sterling-----------------------Rooney--------------------------Ox
-------------------------------Sturridge------------------------------
We could surprise a few with that team imo.
Then you have the likes of Lallana, Henderson, Milner, Lambert, Welbeck as bench options.
What I like about that team is that it's free of any Spurs c*nts.![]()
By "Johnson", I take it you mean Glenn Johnson from Liverpool?![]()
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Any half decent winger at Interlull level will destroy Johnson. Wilshere? No where near Interlull level. Let's be honest, he quite often ain't that good in the PL. How you expect him to suddenly step up and deliver in a key role (and after being out injured) is beyond me. Gerrard - waaaay past his best and would be run ragged by fast young midfielders. Cahill and Jagielka? Average CH's at best. Have their moments but average mostly. And I agree Shaw has been good, but I also think he's not THAT good. Then there's the fact you put Welbeck in there. Even on the bench. Devalues everything you have ever written or said in your whole life, mate.![]()
The fucker is stealing a living as a footballer.
Sorry, but Ingerland will do about as well as Oireland will at this world cup.
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:You Ewoks are such bitter little fellasDB10GOONER wrote:Sorry, mate - can't see it.1989 wrote:I think we can do something at this World Cup. We need to play to our strength which is pace. Sterling and Ox on the wings and Sturridge upfront, with Rooney playmaking. Hit them on the counter.
---------------------------------Hart---------------------------------
Johnson-------------Cahill-------------Jags------------------Shaw
----------------------Gerrard--------Wilshere----------------------
Sterling-----------------------Rooney--------------------------Ox
-------------------------------Sturridge------------------------------
We could surprise a few with that team imo.
Then you have the likes of Lallana, Henderson, Milner, Lambert, Welbeck as bench options.
What I like about that team is that it's free of any Spurs c*nts.![]()
By "Johnson", I take it you mean Glenn Johnson from Liverpool?![]()
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Any half decent winger at Interlull level will destroy Johnson. Wilshere? No where near Interlull level. Let's be honest, he quite often ain't that good in the PL. How you expect him to suddenly step up and deliver in a key role (and after being out injured) is beyond me. Gerrard - waaaay past his best and would be run ragged by fast young midfielders. Cahill and Jagielka? Average CH's at best. Have their moments but average mostly. And I agree Shaw has been good, but I also think he's not THAT good. Then there's the fact you put Welbeck in there. Even on the bench. Devalues everything you have ever written or said in your whole life, mate.![]()
The fucker is stealing a living as a footballer.
Sorry, but Ingerland will do about as well as Oireland will at this world cup.![]()
I can just picture it - the captain holding the FA Cup and Wenger holding the 4th place trophy at Islington Town Hall.Simon wrote:Can't wait to hear the England brass band playing 'The Great Escape'. So much better than those pesky rhythmic samba bands and scantily-clad Brazilian beauties.
I think this World Cup will pass me by as hopefully I'll still be on a high from celebrating our manager's greatest ever achievement of another year's Champion League qualification.
The Parade goes ahead on May 18th if we win the Cup...surely the club can fit in Parade after this weekend to celebrate the VT , not wait 'til after that FA Cup thingy as Stan calls it.arseofacrow wrote:I can just picture it - the captain holding the FA Cup and Wenger holding the 4th place trophy at Islington Town Hall.Simon wrote:Can't wait to hear the England brass band playing 'The Great Escape'. So much better than those pesky rhythmic samba bands and scantily-clad Brazilian beauties.
I think this World Cup will pass me by as hopefully I'll still be on a high from celebrating our manager's greatest ever achievement of another year's Champion League qualification.
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At least England are in it...DB10GOONER wrote:Sorry, mate - can't see it.1989 wrote:I think we can do something at this World Cup. We need to play to our strength which is pace. Sterling and Ox on the wings and Sturridge upfront, with Rooney playmaking. Hit them on the counter.
---------------------------------Hart---------------------------------
Johnson-------------Cahill-------------Jags------------------Shaw
----------------------Gerrard--------Wilshere----------------------
Sterling-----------------------Rooney--------------------------Ox
-------------------------------Sturridge------------------------------
We could surprise a few with that team imo.
Then you have the likes of Lallana, Henderson, Milner, Lambert, Welbeck as bench options.
What I like about that team is that it's free of any Spurs c*nts.![]()
By "Johnson", I take it you mean Glenn Johnson from Liverpool?![]()
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Any half decent winger at Interlull level will destroy Johnson. Wilshere? No where near Interlull level. Let's be honest, he quite often ain't that good in the PL. How you expect him to suddenly step up and deliver in a key role (and after being out injured) is beyond me. Gerrard - waaaay past his best and would be run ragged by fast young midfielders. Cahill and Jagielka? Average CH's at best. Have their moments but average mostly. And I agree Shaw has been good, but I also think he's not THAT good. Then there's the fact you put Welbeck in there. Even on the bench. Devalues everything you have ever written or said in your whole life, mate.![]()
The fucker is stealing a living as a footballer.
Sorry, but Ingerland will do about as well as Oireland will at this world cup.
Bestest in the world ever1989 wrote:Spot on Augs.
Forgot to mention Ross Barkley as well. What a player.
Forget the fact that since starting the first 9 PL games he's spent the rest of the season fighting with Leon Osman for his place and is very average most of the time. He scores the odd great goal so "what a player" indeed.LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:Bestest in the world ever1989 wrote:Spot on Augs.
Forgot to mention Ross Barkley as well. What a player.![]()
have you finished your world cup sticker book yet?1989 wrote:Spot on Augs.
Forgot to mention Ross Barkley as well. What a player.