As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
VoiceOfReason wrote:The point I guess I'm trying to make is FFS stop using the new stadium, price of a membership or Arsene Wenger down as an excuse for not going to games... I had to live through Terry Neil as Manager and that was pretty dire I can tell you!
::Superfan alert!::
Why can't I use the new stadium as a reason for not wanting to go to games? It's a corporate bowl built purely for fleecing supporters, and does absolutely nothing for me. It wouldn't make much sense for me to continue paying for something that I don't enjoy would it?
As it relates to going to games, I couldn't care less about whether or not we're winning trophies. If we'd been relegated at Highbury I still would have gone every week - because I felt devoted to the cause and was a part of something special. I felt a unity and bond with the fans, players and management. Nowadays, I'm an instantly replaceable customer surrounded by doughtnut-eating wankers (many of whom don't even support Arsenal), and funnily enough, that doesn't get me all warm and tingly inside.
Yes, I could keep going out of blind loyalty and get more and more pissed off about it, but instead I stepped back and now keep tabs from a distance. If that makes me a poor fan, then I really don't care to be honest - if I did, then I'd still be going!
I am fed up of people whining and bitching about ticket prices. NOBODY puts a gun to your head and tells you to buy their consumer product and yes that is what it is. Its a consumer product. If you cant afford it dont buy it. There are plenty of other things to spend the money on.
Football clubs are not charities. They are businesses and we are their customers. They will replace you with the next sucker to buy a season ticket in a heartbeat if they could get that little bit more. I have no sympathy for you, because you are whining about an optional consumer product & not an essential like gas prices.
Either stop buying tickets or quit bitching because if you do then you are clearly sending the signal that the ticket price is worth it.
VoiceOfReason wrote:This season is the first that I haven't been to a single game (home or away) since 1992/93, when I was eight. I'm sad that it's come to this, but I have to say, I don't miss going at all. Even watching games on the TV is a chore. Shame, because in 2006, I would've fucking died for this club.
My plan is to renew once Wenger has gone, and I'm hoping it will reignite my passion again, but I'm not convinced that will be the case.
First of all, apologies for picking on your particular post, but it was just the one that tipped me over the edge when reading the "woe is me" posts on here...
In the 1980's I had seasons when I missed maybe one or two games - home and away. But my first kid was born in 1993 and I then had a good few seasons when I literally went to just one or two games. Unfortunately, that coincided with one of the most successful periods in our history! But I haven't missed a complete season since 1974/75 - and have held 3 season tickets throughout our (trophyless) time at the Grove
So forgive me for saying this, but I think you are spoilt and have little to complain about... "You would've died for this club"...in 2006 when we reached the Champions League Final...Big deal...!!! We were a mid table side at best for at least the first 10 years of my time going to games...but it didn't dim my enthusiasm and there were occasions when dying for the club was a real possibility!!
The point I guess I'm trying to make is FFS stop using the new stadium, price of a membership or Arsene Wenger down as an excuse for not going to games... I had to live through Terry Neil as Manager and that was pretty dire I can tell you!
If you don't want to go to games then don't go. But don't then come on a fans forum and expect to be taken seriously by true gooners... Now where's that smilie with the tin hat when you need it !!!
Fully agree, post of the week I think, for us my son is delighted as this year coming he is now in The Cannon club- Silver membership beckons. Yeah its VERY annoying that the prices have sneaked up...
It's a corporate bowl built purely for fleecing supporters
Totally disagree, easy to knock but theres a lot that I like about the bowl, and the home record suggests that the team like playing there.
It is really nice of you to say so, but reallly...I don't think I am....Oh go on then !
Maybe we're just very lucky where we sit, but the comments about "latte drinking hipster dickheads singing One Arsene Wenger" and souless bowl filled with non-Arsenal supporting tourists really don't ring true to me... Maybe when we first moved to the Grove. Yes, I could see it then. I suppose it was inevitable when there was some novelty and 22000 extra tickets available.
But many of the people around us now are long standing supporters who were season ticket holders at Highbury. And, far from souless, the atmosphere has actually been quite good at most games this season, and very good at some...at least as good as it was in some of the unsuccesful seasons at the all-seater Highbury Library.
I prefer the away experience - but then I probably always did.
Maybe we're just very lucky where we sit, but the comments about "latte drinking hipster dickheads singing One Arsene Wenger" and souless bowl filled with non-Arsenal supporting tourists really don't ring true to me...
But..but...Steve O says it is? Oh I just don't know who to believe anymore
Maybe we're just very lucky where we sit, but the comments about "latte drinking hipster dickheads singing One Arsene Wenger" and souless bowl filled with non-Arsenal supporting tourists really don't ring true to me...
But..but...Steve O says it is? Oh I just don't know who to believe anymore
Thats cos he sits near Steve I who I expect will return at 9pm on the 17th May to announce that the world is saved
Where do you guys sit?
I really don't get all the abuse the home support gets. I found the away support, although loud, a bit negative.
I enjoy myself every time I go to the grove, but since I go alone I can get a seat in block 6 usually.
The first time I heard "One Arsene Wenger"(not sung ironically) in recent years was on Sunday during the lap of appreciation.
Maybe we're just very lucky where we sit, but the comments about "latte drinking hipster dickheads singing One Arsene Wenger" and souless bowl filled with non-Arsenal supporting tourists really don't ring true to me...
But..but...Steve O says it is? Oh I just don't know who to believe anymore
Thats cos he sits near Steve I who I expect will return at 9pm on the 17th May to announce that the world is saved
Can we have an improved foe feature where even re-quotes from cretins on your foe list can't be seen
Still, a whole sentence without the word 'c u n t' being used....progress on a Sanogo level !
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When I go I sit towards the bottom of the upper tier opposite the tunnel. The support around here is pretty piss-poor - there are a couple of really sound blokes that we have a chat and a general rapport with that sit behind but other than that it's pretty much deathly silent. Whilst obviously not a great atmosphere I do still enjoy games when I can get to them. Although the looks somebody gets for expressing an opinion or making any noise are embarrassing.
For the Cardiff home game on New Year's Day I was sat about 25 rows into upper tier. Fucking dreadful. I cheated a stinking hangover and we won late on so should have been delighted but I was sat around some fucking morons. Two young blokes that talked about betting for 90 minutes and compared their apps, two other young blokes who spent most of the game cracking jokes about how Bendtner was going to dribble through 8 players and smash it in the top corner long past the point of it being funny until I turned round and asked them why they found us pissing the game away so hilarious. Probably a quarter of people in the vicinity missed at least 10 minutes of the match at the start and/or end and a completely disinterested couple turned up 20 minutes late and left long before our goals. I'm not the kind of bloke that acts all 'salt of the earth' and insists everyone has to shout and scream for 90 minutes but this was fucking humiliating. Faced with being given a free ticket to sit there again or watch it in a pub I'd choose the latter, that's how bad it was.
It is really nice of you to say so, but reallly...I don't think I am....Oh go on then !
Maybe we're just very lucky where we sit, but the comments about "latte drinking hipster dickheads singing One Arsene Wenger" and souless bowl filled with non-Arsenal supporting tourists really don't ring true to me... Maybe when we first moved to the Grove. Yes, I could see it then. I suppose it was inevitable when there was some novelty and 22000 extra tickets available.
But many of the people around us now are long standing supporters who were season ticket holders at Highbury. And, far from souless, the atmosphere has actually been quite good at most games this season, and very good at some...at least as good as it was in some of the unsuccesful seasons at the all-seater Highbury Library.
I prefer the away experience - but then I probably always did.
Not sure where you're sitting fella, but apart from clock end and north bank lower it's pretty much how I described everywhere else.
We sit in the clock end near the corner flag (not the one near the away fans).IMHO the atmosphere is far better now than in the early days at the Grove. There have been some gamrs this season when it was really rocking. Only been in upper tier once though & agree that it wasn't exactly red action!
Sometimes think people have a misty eyed view of Highbury. It could be pretty quiet at times - esp in the East Stand.
MK Gould wrote:We sit in the clock end near the corner flag (not the one near the away fans).IMHO the atmosphere is far better now than in the early days at the Grove. There have been some gamrs this season when it was really rocking. Only been in upper tier once though & agree that it wasn't exactly red action!
Sometimes think people have a misty eyed view of Highbury. It could be pretty quiet at times - esp in the East Stand.
yeah agreed, even we were in our pomp in 2004-2004 in the west stand upper it wasn't exactly crazy.
Ultimatum94 wrote:So you get to keep your membership and still have a season ticket
I always thought once you got the season ticket they'd terminate your membership.
When you get an ST you automatically go to Gold. If for some reason you then don't renew the following year you have to rejoin as a Red, which is totally unfair as it took me 10 years to get to Silver (2002-2012). That's why I've put the missus on the ST list rather than myself as I'll have the Silver to fall back on.
However, I think someone on here said they gave up an ST and managed to go back to Silver but I think there were other circumstances involved (something to do with club level STs?).
A friend of ours has just gone from Cannon Club (he had been a Junior Gunner before that for a number of years)straight to Silver... Does that mean that you are better off buying a Junior Gunner membership rather than Red??? As far as I know, once the Family Enclosure is sold out then you can use a JG to buy full price tickets anywhere else in the ground anyway? Is that correct??
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Oh I just don't know who to believe anymore 
