Israel/Gaza

[QuartzGooner]

Chippy

You casually suggest that as "only" 28 Israelis have died from rockets that Israel is wrong to defend itself.
Well that just shows your scant regard for Jewish life.
Even if one person had died from a rocket we have a need to do something about it.

But it is not just rockets though is it?
There have been suicide bombs, car bombs, bombs left in bags, shootings, stabbings, mechanical diggers used to wreak havoc, car drivers crossing lanes recklessly to cause others to crash, rocks thrown at oncoming cars which result in deaths and once even a maniac running through the streets of Jaffa with a sword.

Over 1000 Israelis killed from 2001 - 2008.

And of those killed in Gaza, latest figures point to 47% of them being terrorists.
And as I pointed out, Hamas forces it's own people to stay in buildings that are under fire whilst we give up the military advantage of surprise to warn the civilians exactly where we will attack!
It forced children to build terror tunnels, 160 of these children died!

The enemy is Islamic Terror, the enemy we have to fight in Gaza.

Your woefully selective version of Israeli history is poisonous fiction.

The land has spiritual qualities not found elsewhere, integral to our faith.
We have a continuous presence there over 1300 years, though the from the third century to the early 20th numbers were forced to remain low.
We have now reclaimed a chunk of our spiritual homeland and the in-gathering of our exiled tribes is a miracle.
But 82% of the land was assigned to the Arabs by the British and French...as Jordan and Syria.
How dare we have the temerity to want to live in peace in the other 22%!
How dare we defend ourselves from Hamas who were six weeks away from invading Israel through tunnels!

As for religion, it is the root of morality.
But it like anything else, can be twisted.

[OneBardGooner]

Can the Mods please get this thread back on track and continue/merge the discussion about Gaza onto it's own thread. "Thank-You Kindly"

I mean if any of us mere mortals did it..we'd be told off and sent to stoke

999,999 = Almunia.

[afcforever]

Religion the root of all evil.

You are sensible after all

[mcdowell42]

Religion the root of all evil.

You are sensible after all

Yeah when I don't have to deal with fools like you.

[afcforever]

Religion the root of all evil.

You are sensible after all

Yeah when I don't have to deal with fools like you.

I take it back, your not sensible

[northbank123]

Religion the root of all evil.

Some twat - Twitter

I included your source for you mate

[QuartzGooner]

Can the Mods please get this thread back on track and merge the discussion about Gaza onto it's own thread. "Thank-You Kindly"

Now that's what I call an offer I cannot refuse!

[Chippy]

I was not going to bother any more but since you made it a separate thread.

1 in every 1,000 Gazans has been killed by Israeli forces in just a month.

[QuartzGooner]

And?

What do you expect, if their military doctrine is the cultivation of civilian casualties and structural damage as propaganda tools?

The IDF captured an Al Qassam Brigade Operating Manual in Gaza.
It instructed it's fighters to maximise civilian casualties precisely because the Israeli military try to minimise them.

You would expect a lot more deaths in over a month given the fact Israeli military launched a ground operation in Gaza.

But Israeli methods of warning leaflets, phone calls, text messages, media announcements and warning "sound" bombs prior to attacks, plus abandoning missions if civilian casualties are clearly in the line of fire, play a moral role in keeping civilian casualties to a minimum.

[Chippy]

Keep digging.

[QuartzGooner]

Keep digging.

Your Hamas chums will try, and we will keep blowing up your tunnels of death.

[REB]

And?


But Israeli methods of warning leaflets, phone calls, text messages, media announcements and warning "sound" bombs prior to attacks, plus abandoning missions if civilian casualties are clearly in the line of fire, play a moral role in keeping civilian casualties to a minimum.

how nice of them .

[QuartzGooner]

And?


But Israeli methods of warning leaflets, phone calls, text messages, media announcements and warning "sound" bombs prior to attacks, plus abandoning missions if civilian casualties are clearly in the line of fire, play a moral role in keeping civilian casualties to a minimum.

how nice of them .

Oh so now we are not "allowed" to defend ourselves?

If we do so we at least do so with morality and with a degree of concern for civilians that I have not seen from any other army.

[DB10GOONER]

Yep. Great job, fuckers. Glad this old load of bollocks hasn't reared it's ugly head again.

Lads, basically everyone's opinion on this is deeply entrenched and not for changing. You've more or less all stated your opinion. So before this degenerates any further into name calling and insults I think it best if we remember this is an Arsenal football forum and maybe just drop the divisive geo-political religious stuff here. What do you think?

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Yep. Great job, fuckers. Glad this old load of bollocks hasn't reared it's ugly head again.

Lads, basically everyone's opinion on this is deeply entrenched and not for changing. You've more or less all stated your opinion. So before this degenerates any further into name calling and insults I think it best if we remember this is an Arsenal football forum and maybe just drop the divisive geo-political religious stuff here. What do you think?

Well Fuck me sideways and call me Sally

I just read this thread logged in to quote when none other than DB had beaten me to it

Was going to say "guys, visit the joke thread and lighten the fuck up "