As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Rosicky's Right Boot wrote:I just don't particularly care any more; there's a certain apathy that comes with knowing you'll do fuck all in a season. Maybe it'll make each loss easier to swallow.
This 100%.
I chucked in my season ticket this year and have been so bored with Wenger's Arsenal. What isn't a surprise is that Wenger is now being found out by the lesser teams. It was the big teams last year and now everyone is catching on while Wenger tightens the noose around his neck.
I knew last year once the contract extension was signed that this was going to end ugly and that is the way it is getting.
I see us losing this one. We may get one - 2-1 loss.
Rosicky's Right Boot wrote:I just don't particularly care any more; there's a certain apathy that comes with knowing you'll do fuck all in a season. Maybe it'll make each loss easier to swallow.
Same, I still enjoy going to games (don't know why) but I go knowing that it'll probably be shit. The whole pointlessness of this season was summed up in a good tweet from last night:
@jon_gooner wrote:To be fair, the sooner we are out of this competition, the sooner we can focus on qualifying for this competition
begeegs wrote:
I knew last year once the contract extension was signed that this was going to end ugly and that is the way it is getting.
i think most of us who wanted him out knew it would end ugly - despite the AKB's insistence that the losses of the last two/three seasons - swansea, norwich, schalke, bradford, blackburn etc were one offs, we knew it was a sign of him losing the plot.
He has left us no choice - I dont honestly think anyone on here - those that want him out then - want him to leave under a bad cloud - But, he has left us with no choice - what are we supposed to do sit back while he destroys the great name and reputation of
THE Arsenal, yes, at first he contributed greatly to that reputation - How we were percived as having that rare , rare thing called "Class" - and what with his histrionics, Gazidis' slippery cunty ways and with a millionaire (who cannot even afford/buy a decent hair piece) owner in charge- It has become Truly Awful and SAD!
Had he walked away after the FA Cup Final at the end of last season - regardless of the outcome - I still could have waved him a fond farewell - whilst breathing a sigh of relief, yet with his insistence on remaining n charge - and taking us to new low levels of cringeworthy embarrassment - then I just want the *word censored* gone
Goodbye and Don't Let The Door Hit You In The Back On The Way Out - You Myopic Despotic Dis-illusioned Inept Clueless Dinosaur.
and his comments last night have shown he hasn't learnt a thing in the last 9 seasons.
in 30 years time people will remember he was crap for nine years as much as he was any good for 7. which is a shame but he is deluded and the club indulged it. now he has finally spent the money his crapness is front and centre.
unless we sneak a 1-0 or have a good win there, this is where the slow painful death spiral starts - particularly if united get a result at home against palace, they'll be up for it after the international break and we'll likely drop more points against them too.
VAVAVOOM 14 wrote:Ramsey will be up for this, he's a Cardiff lad so hates Swansea - hopefully he performs.
You are forgetting his current shitness. He will try too hard, piss passes away, squander posession, try the difficult option every time, and backheel the ball continuously when he should just keep it simple.
DB10GOONER wrote:
You are forgetting his current shitness. He will try too hard, piss passes away, squander posession, try the difficult option every time, and backheel the ball continuously when he should just keep it simple.
That actually dawned on me after posting.
He might be too to up for it resulting in him shooting from 45 yards out and playing blind backheels in our own box.
Far from the only reason he's struggled for form this year but I think it suited Ramsey more when Giroud played. Our play was a lot slower and Ramsey profited time and time again from immense timing with his arrival into the box.
At the moment we tend to either have direct fast players like ox Sanchez and Welbeck running with the ball, or endless sideways insipid passing. Either way doesn't lend itself so much to Box to box CM arriving late on to sweep home so much
northbank123 wrote:Far from the only reason he's struggled for form this year but I think it suited Ramsey more when Giroud played. Our play was a lot slower and Ramsey profited time and time again from immense timing with his arrival into the box.
At the moment we tend to either have direct fast players like ox Sanchez and Welbeck running with the ball, or endless sideways insipid passing. Either way doesn't lend itself so much to Box to box CM arriving late on to sweep home so much
I'd agree. Both Giroud and Ramsey benefitted from each other when on the pitch at the same time. And both quite often looked less without the other one there.
I think Ramsey can improve and get back to form though.
Firstly he is still not fully fit.
Secondly he would benefit a lot from playing next to a solid defensive midfielder.
Then it would not matter so much if Sanchez and the other speedsters are running around, he can still bomb on to join them if need be or play a deeper role, because he can pass well.
If we do play 4-4-2 more than a box to box midfielder is an asset, and for me Ramsey and Oxlade-Chamberlain are the candidates for that role.
Wilshere?
More of a deep lying playmaker, likes to run and is effective edge of the box but doe she have the pace to run from deep effectively?
QuartzGooner wrote:...If we do play 4-4-2 more than a box to box midfielder is an asset, and for me Ramsey and Oxlade-Chamberlain are the candidates for that role...
QuartzGooner wrote:I think Ramsey can improve and get back to form though.
Firstly he is still not fully fit.
Secondly he would benefit a lot from playing next to a solid defensive midfielder.
Then it would not matter so much if Sanchez and the other speedsters are running around, he can still bomb on to join them if need be or play a deeper role, because he can pass well.
If we do play 4-4-2 more than a box to box midfielder is an asset, and for me Ramsey and Oxlade-Chamberlain are the candidates for that role.
Wilshere?
More of a deep lying playmaker, likes to run and is effective edge of the box but doe she have the pace to run from deep effectively?
I don't agree that Ramsey's fitness is the big issue, Quartz. Whilst fitness might affect his ability to make those runs into the box, it doesn't impact on his decision making. And that's the big problem. His lack of basic concentration. It has always been a flaw in his game. Last year (for whatever reason) he was able to get on top of it for most of the season and slow his game down, do the simple, correct, effective things. This year he's back to over-complicating things, always choosing the dificult option.
But more importantly, when did Jack become Jacqui?
Weird scouse/German hybrid and Phil Thompson lookalike Didi Hamann said after the Anderlecht game, and I paraphrase, that Ramsey is "only interested in scoring for himself, not in the interests of the team".
It's probably too simplistic, and of course there will be other reasons for his current funk, but I think there's a modicum of truth in what he said. Ramsey was so prolific last season and is obviously desperate to replicate that form but, unfortunately for him, when he tries too hard or overcomplicates things he is piss-poor.
officepest wrote:Weird scouse/German hybrid and Phil Thompson lookalike Didi Hamann said after the Anderlecht game, and I paraphrase, that Ramsey is "only interested in scoring for himself, not in the interests of the team".
It's probably too simplistic, and of course there will be other reasons for his current funk, but I think there's a modicum of truth in what he said. Ramsey was so prolific last season and is obviously desperate to replicate that form but, unfortunately for him, when he tries too hard or overcomplicates things he is piss-poor.
You know, strangely, the other night after one of Sanchez's goals the team were all celebrating and in the background I spotted Ramsey walking through shot and he looked really pissed off. I thought it was odd at the time, but now I think about it, and the more I think about Ramsey, and add bizarre German/Scouse hybrid DidiPhil ThomHamann's comments.... there might be something in that...
Still, I wouldn't mind, once he got his form back and started banging in the goals again.
