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Ikechukwu1 wrote:I see Ollie Giroud has yet again, given a loud-mouthed interview before the big CL game. When will this twunt learn? He did the exact same thing before the first leg, claiming he was "as good as Diego Costa" and then we all know what happened
Now he is at it again. Talking about how he "will make Monaco pay" and about how he has "bounced back". Sure, he's been much better since then (how could he be worse?) but a closer look at his goals show: goals against mediocre Palace away, at relegation certainties QPR, and at home to average West Ham. This in no way invalidates the criticism of Giroud which is, that in the big games and in the big moments, he is simply not good enough.
Agree with this and you called it when he first signed but you have to be fair to him too, he's scored goals against City, Liverpool and United this year and wasn't fit when we played Chelsea so he can't be looked at as 'just' a flat track bully, well not so far this season anyway.
He does need to back up his words tomorrow as his performance left a lot to be desired in the first game and is one of the reasons we have a mountain to climb now.
Ikechukwu1 wrote:I see Ollie Giroud has yet again, given a loud-mouthed interview before the big CL game. When will this twunt learn? He did the exact same thing before the first leg, claiming he was "as good as Diego Costa" and then we all know what happened
Now he is at it again. Talking about how he "will make Monaco pay" and about how he has "bounced back". Sure, he's been much better since then (how could he be worse?) but a closer look at his goals show: goals against mediocre Palace away, at relegation certainties QPR, and at home to average West Ham. This in no way invalidates the criticism of Giroud which is, that in the big games and in the big moments, he is simply not good enough.
Agree with this and you called it when he first signed but you have to be fair to him too, he's scored goals against City, Liverpool and United this year and wasn't fit when we played Chelsea so he can't be looked at as 'just' a flat track bully, well not so far this season anyway.
He does need to back up his words tomorrow as his performance left a lot to be desired in the first game and is one of the reasons we have a mountain to climb now.
Totally agree if anything it does the team talk for Monaco, he should keep quiet and save it for the game
Players have too much say before the game
Ikechukwu1 wrote:I see Ollie Giroud has yet again, given a loud-mouthed interview before the big CL game. When will this twunt learn? He did the exact same thing before the first leg, claiming he was "as good as Diego Costa" and then we all know what happened
Now he is at it again. Talking about how he "will make Monaco pay" and about how he has "bounced back". Sure, he's been much better since then (how could he be worse?) but a closer look at his goals show: goals against mediocre Palace away, at relegation certainties QPR, and at home to average West Ham. This in no way invalidates the criticism of Giroud which is, that in the big games and in the big moments, he is simply not good enough.
Agree with this and you called it when he first signed but you have to be fair to him too, he's scored goals against City, Liverpool and United this year and wasn't fit when we played Chelsea so he can't be looked at as 'just' a flat track bully, well not so far this season anyway.
He does need to back up his words tomorrow as his performance left a lot to be desired in the first game and is one of the reasons we have a mountain to climb now.
Agree he's been a bit better on that front this year. He's still not good enough to be talking a good game. Once he's managed more than 20 league goals in a season, he can start talking. I just don't understand why this club continues to let these loudmouth interviews take place. Remember Gibbs' big-bollox talk before Monaco? How did that go then! They should talk on the pitch. Aguero and Ronaldo talk where it matters, easy to sound off in the rags...
did he really say "we will make monaco pay"?
why do I get the feeling that someone has been aggravated by some silly headline without reading the actual interview?
I haven't read what he has said but I would guess he said something along the lines of "We will need to bounce back and make them pay for the chances we make". very rarely do I hear a player trying to psyche out the opposition like a 12 year old child would. "oooh we're coming for you, we're going to make you pay"
Just read the interview. His exact words were 'we'll make Monaca pay. I'm going to fuck the team then their women' then something I can't even repeat about Laurent Blanc's mother
Ikechukwu1 wrote:I see Ollie Giroud has yet again, given a loud-mouthed interview before the big CL game. When will this twunt learn? He did the exact same thing before the first leg, claiming he was "as good as Diego Costa" and then we all know what happened
Now he is at it again. Talking about how he "will make Monaco pay" and about how he has "bounced back". Sure, he's been much better since then (how could he be worse?) but a closer look at his goals show: goals against mediocre Palace away, at relegation certainties QPR, and at home to average West Ham. This in no way invalidates the criticism of Giroud which is, that in the big games and in the big moments, he is simply not good enough.
Agree with this and you called it when he first signed but you have to be fair to him too, he's scored goals against City, Liverpool and United this year and wasn't fit when we played Chelsea so he can't be looked at as 'just' a flat track bully, well not so far this season anyway.
He does need to back up his words tomorrow as his performance left a lot to be desired in the first game and is one of the reasons we have a mountain to climb now.
Yup! - Thing is some players who make it to the prem - they score the occasional excellent goal/have the occasional outstanding performance - and think they are the dogs wotsits...Giroud is a vey good striker - But nowhere near the class of Costa or Aguero et al...He tries hard and always gives his best - Sadly his best isn't always good enough - He is inconsistent - He missed chances in the 1st leg - that would and should have given us a comfortable game tomorrow night - Instead we go there more in hope than anything else.
wibble wrote:Just read the interview. His exact words were 'we'll make Monaca pay. I'm going to fuck the team then their women' then something I can't even repeat about Laurent Blanc's mother
Henry Norris 1913 wrote:did he really say "we will make monaco pay"?
why do I get the feeling that someone has been aggravated by some silly headline without reading the actual interview?
I haven't read what he has said but I would guess he said something along the lines of "We will need to bounce back and make them pay for the chances we make". very rarely do I hear a player trying to psyche out the opposition like a 12 year old child would. "oooh we're coming for you, we're going to make you pay"
I didn't know nasri - aka: goofy dyke cocksucker - was 12yrs old!!
I just hope that we go through, because I have had enough of this heroic losing nonsense; there is no heroic loss against Monaco. If we go out and beat them 0-2, so what? It's not like we beat the team that's going to go on and win the tournament, again no offence intended. The loss against Monaco hit me harder than even the 0-6 thrashing away to Chelsea last season; it was a horrible night and it seems to have equally hurt the rest of the fan base. No, I didn't expect to beat Monaco easily at all, there defensive record speaks for itself, but I did expect it to be a close two legged affair, with maybe one goal in the difference, I certainly didn't expect either team to be virtually out of the competition after the first leg.
I had high hopes for this seasons European campaign, not necessarily that they would win it, but that we would put in a good showing. I can accept losing to a better team, but I just don't accept what happened three weeks ago, it wasn't good enough. It's time for the players to stand up now and give the fans the result they deserve.
Our away fans have been excellent again this season, (the fact that Spurs couldn't sell there allocation on a Sunday afternoon and we managed to bring 9,000 on a Monday night to Old Trafford, speaks volumes), and they will all be out there again tomorrow night hoping we go through. The way I see it, we are out of the competition and we need to score at least 3 goals to qualify. I think that's the way the players should look at it.
I really think that there is a good chance we could beat Monaco 3-0, think about it; forget the first leg ever happened, if we were playing them tomorrow in that first leg and won 3-0, would many people be that surprised? No I don't think so. Let's just go out there and get the result that I think we're more than capable of getting. After all, wouldn't that also be the most Arsenal thing ever?
piresistible wrote: it was a horrible night and it seems to have equally hurt the rest of the fan base.
I'm not sure about that, have a look on Twitter. Most of our idiotic fanbase seem to have totally forgotten it and are adamant that we'll go through comfortably. 3 goals without reply against a team that conceded 3 in their last 7 CL games? Yeah, that seems likely. Think there's gonna be a lot of people coming down to earth with a bump in about 10 hours time...