Ex-Players 'Hall of Shame'

[Sean]

When I see that *word censored* Piers Morgan debating with Martin Keown, regardless of Keown's stance I cannot slag off and ex player.

All of the names on the OP list have in some capacity the potential to work at Arsenal in the future, perhaps even as manager. Keown is the obvious name, an articulate man who would make a great manager imo.

I think we need to take some perspective here, there is a lot of politics in football these days especially at Arsenal. I for one would never dismiss the contribution these players have made to our recent history, even if what they say winds me up.

When you go to work, do you publicly slag your boss off in front of their face. Do you even slag them off in public, after you leave? Somehow I doubt it.

In spite of my disappointment in Keown being a true believer in TOF, I do agree with you. Keown has great management potential. Although we would need TOF removed from the club entirely, otherwise Keown would be all to happy to be his puppet. Just to have someone who is painfully aware of our defensive errors and could easily put them right would be a massive improvement on TOF.

[armchair]

When I see that *word censored* Piers Morgan debating with Martin Keown, regardless of Keown's stance I cannot slag off and ex player.

All of the names on the OP list have in some capacity the potential to work at Arsenal in the future, perhaps even as manager. Keown is the obvious name, an articulate man who would make a great manager imo.

I think we need to take some perspective here, there is a lot of politics in football these days especially at Arsenal. I for one would never dismiss the contribution these players have made to our recent history, even if what they say winds me up.

When you go to work, do you publicly slag your boss off in front of their face. Do you even slag them off in public, after you leave? Somehow I doubt it.

In spite of my disappointment in Keown being a true believer in TOF, I do agree with you. Keown has great management potential. Although we would need TOF removed from the club entirely, otherwise Keown would be all to happy to be his puppet. Just to have someone who is painfully aware of our defensive errors and could easily put them right would be a massive improvement on TOF.

Keown can go and fuck himself. Coming out with total brainless shit like "Hes earned the right to decide when he leaves" and "Arsene runs this club"
Well mate he shouldnt run the fuckin club and he cant be allowed to decide when he leaves. Keown, like Wenger, still dining off what the did a decade ago. This is Arsenal NOW and for the future and Keown, Wenger, Wright can all do one.

[nut flush gooner]

When I see that *word censored* Piers Morgan debating with Martin Keown, regardless of Keown's stance I cannot slag off and ex player.

All of the names on the OP list have in some capacity the potential to work at Arsenal in the future, perhaps even as manager. Keown is the obvious name, an articulate man who would make a great manager imo.

I think we need to take some perspective here, there is a lot of politics in football these days especially at Arsenal. I for one would never dismiss the contribution these players have made to our recent history, even if what they say winds me up.

When you go to work, do you publicly slag your boss off in front of their face. Do you even slag them off in public, after you leave? Somehow I doubt it.

In spite of my disappointment in Keown being a true believer in TOF, I do agree with you. Keown has great management potential. Although we would need TOF removed from the club entirely, otherwise Keown would be all to happy to be his puppet. Just to have someone who is painfully aware of our defensive errors and could easily put them right would be a massive improvement on TOF.

Keown can go and fuck himself. Coming out with total brainless shit like "Hes earned the right to decide when he leaves" and "Arsene runs this club"
Well mate he shouldnt run the fuckin club and he cant be allowed to decide when he leaves. Keown, like Wenger, still dining off what the did a decade ago. This is Arsenal NOW and for the future and Keown, Wenger, Wright can all do one.

So you're going to work tomorrow and going to slag your boss off, and then your future employer right? Emotion shouldn't get in the way of someone's ability to do a job.

Too much hot air comes from these sorts of threads imo.

[armchair]

When I see that *word censored* Piers Morgan debating with Martin Keown, regardless of Keown's stance I cannot slag off and ex player.

All of the names on the OP list have in some capacity the potential to work at Arsenal in the future, perhaps even as manager. Keown is the obvious name, an articulate man who would make a great manager imo.

I think we need to take some perspective here, there is a lot of politics in football these days especially at Arsenal. I for one would never dismiss the contribution these players have made to our recent history, even if what they say winds me up.

When you go to work, do you publicly slag your boss off in front of their face. Do you even slag them off in public, after you leave? Somehow I doubt it.

In spite of my disappointment in Keown being a true believer in TOF, I do agree with you. Keown has great management potential. Although we would need TOF removed from the club entirely, otherwise Keown would be all to happy to be his puppet. Just to have someone who is painfully aware of our defensive errors and could easily put them right would be a massive improvement on TOF.

Keown can go and fuck himself. Coming out with total brainless shit like "Hes earned the right to decide when he leaves" and "Arsene runs this club"
Well mate he shouldnt run the fuckin club and he cant be allowed to decide when he leaves. Keown, like Wenger, still dining off what the did a decade ago. This is Arsenal NOW and for the future and Keown, Wenger, Wright can all do one.

So you're going to work tomorrow and going to slag your boss off, and then your future employer right? Emotion shouldn't get in the way of someone's ability to do a job.

Too much hot air comes from these sorts of threads imo.

Wtf correlation has my job got to do with Keown (whos paid to be an impartial "expert" ) talking total and utter bollocks and excusing a decade of Wengers lies and deceit?
Its all way to cosy with every one of them covering their own backs. From Kroenke not sacking the bastard, to Bould sitting there like a dummy, to Wenger stealing 8 mill and insulting us, right down to Keown, Wrighty, John Cross and the rest of the apologists and his ignorant fans attacking and spitting on us.

Its a fuckin sick joke. And every one of them can go fcuk.

But yea you're right, I shouldnt get emotional about football.

[Sean]

The double-speak is rife amongst the ex-players

[northbank123]

Keown is just the latest in a line of sad sack media whores like Dixon, Henry and Seaman who make endless excuses for Wenger when not one of them would have spent their careers at the club over the last decade.

Can't figure out how much of it is down to them looking out for their own interests and how much is down to them not being able to see the wood for the trees and separate their glorious careers under Wenger from what has been happening in front of their eyes for years now.

[armchair]

The double-speak is rife amongst the ex-players

Id rather be spat on by an ignorant Wenger-loving fool, (who every right-minded person knows is a total mong), than have the likes of Keown and Wrighty, (who use their priveleged positions as club legends and TV pundits, and who are idolised and listened to by many gooners), spout total shite and nonsense in Wengers defence.

[nut flush gooner]

The double-speak is rife amongst the ex-players

Id rather be spat on by an ignorant Wenger-loving fool, (who every right-minded person knows is a total mong), than have the likes of Keown and Wrighty, (who use their priveleged positions as club legends and TV pundits, and who are idolised and listened to by many gooners), spout total shite and nonsense in Wengers defence.

Mong? Do you even know what the word means?

And do yourself a favour and don't assume what another Gooner thinks of Wenger, because you are so wrong. If you cannot see why particular pundits tow the line (and my simple explanation using a comparison) then you are even more deluded than I originally thought. I want Wenger out but I would not dismiss someone like Keown on the basis of what he has said as a pundit.

Keown is a people person, but he is also a hard nut so he is perfect material for a future Arsenal manager.

[GoonerMuzz]

So some people think that someone who never criticises Wenger, and absolutely idolises the way he plays football, whos only criticism is directed at the players would make a great manager for us?

That is exactly why this club is in the state it is, Wenger's legacy at this club should be the trophies and that is all, i'm sorry but anyone who still thinks he should be allowed to decide when he leaves after so many repeat seasons of the same failures is as deluded as he is.

Keown, Wright, Dixon, Seaman and all the rest have far too much vested interest in this manager for whatever personal reason that may be and should keep out of the media if they cannot be impartial when it comes to the current state of affairs

[Ikechukwu1]

So some people think that someone who never criticises Wenger, and absolutely idolises the way he plays football, whos only criticism is directed at the players would make a great manager for us?

Amen. As mentioned, Keown et al aren't paid to line up interests in their next job, they're paid as independent commentators
It's laughable bollocks to on one hand admit to Keown's cowardice in consistently not calling things as they are, and of being too afraid to speak out of turn...and then in the very next breath call him a "hard man"
Iron Man can rest easy.

Wrighty is a legend and great player for us but embarrassed himself with his banner shenanigans. Of course, Keown isn't ever going to have a role at the club again because he had one in 2006 when that makeshift CL final defence went over 1,000 minutes without conceding. Lord A-Hole didn't seem to like all the credit Keown was getting so, after that campaign, Keown wasn't retained.

It's frankly amazing anyone would even tout Keown gives his cowardice. Then again, we have fans calling Winterburn "a hard man" (bet Di Canio thinks so, Nige is another stupid AKB), and of course these same Emirates crowd also tend to think we are "one to two players away" every sunmer, and that of course there's "nothing we can do" to oust Wenker so it's better to just carry on shelling out big cash and sit there in silence. Because you know, that's how you "support the club not the manager"

[northbank123]

Why are we earmarking Keown as a future manager? How can people ignore the warning signs from the forays of Shearer, Ince, Keane, Neville etc into management? Labelling people as future top managers because of their playing ability and persona alone is crap.

Some top players do make top managers but it is far more than because they were a good footballer and a hard man or something similar. Personally I desperately want United to appoint Giggs because chances are he will flop.

If Keown was actually really bothered he should have spent the last decade earning his stripes on the training ground and working his way up. Instead after his extremely brief training/consultancy with us in 2006 he has just sat on a sofa and talked bollocks. Either he doesn't want to be a manager or he is not willing to put in the effort to learn his craft - he has pissed away a decade worth of potential experience.

[arseofacrow]

Why are we earmarking Keown as a future manager? How can people ignore the warning signs from the forays of Shearer, Ince, Keane, Neville etc into management? Labelling people as future top managers because of their playing ability and persona alone is crap.

Some top players do make top managers but it is far more than because they were a good footballer and a hard man or something similar. Personally I desperately want United to appoint Giggs because chances are he will flop.

If Keown was actually really bothered he should have spent the last decade earning his stripes on the training ground and working his way up. Instead after his extremely brief training/consultancy with us in 2006 he has just sat on a sofa and talked bollocks. Either he doesn't want to be a manager or he is not willing to put in the effort to learn his craft - he has pissed away a decade worth of potential experience.

Quite right.

Where is the genuine evidence that he'd make a good manager? What's he been doing to make that happen?

[Ikechukwu1]

Why are we earmarking Keown as a future manager? How can people ignore the warning signs from the forays of Shearer, Ince, Keane, Neville etc into management? Labelling people as future top managers because of their playing ability and persona alone is crap.

Some top players do make top managers but it is far more than because they were a good footballer and a hard man or something similar. Personally I desperately want United to appoint Giggs because chances are he will flop.

If Keown was actually really bothered he should have spent the last decade earning his stripes on the training ground and working his way up. Instead after his extremely brief training/consultancy with us in 2006 he has just sat on a sofa and talked bollocks. Either he doesn't want to be a manager or he is not willing to put in the effort to learn his craft - he has pissed away a decade worth of potential experience.

Quite right.

Where is the genuine evidence that he'd make a good manager? What's he been doing to make that happen?

Evidence? What's that needed for then? Keown is a "hard man". Ergo a future top Arsenal manager! I know he's hard because he hides behind the sofa in fear every time Lord A-hole's name is mentioned!

[armchair]

I want Wenger out but......................

Im not an AKB but............

[armchair]

Evidence? What's that needed for then? Keown is a "hard man". Ergo a future top Arsenal manager! I know he's hard because he hides behind the sofa in fear every time Lord A-hole's name is mentioned!

The sight of "hard-man" Keown squirming and struggling to find ANY defence of Wenger except "hes earned the right to decide when he leaves" is cringeworthy.

Its legends like him and Wrighty who talk total nonsense in Wengers defence that his MONG supporters in the stands listen to and think that gives them the right to assault and spit on the WOBs. Fukin muppets.