As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Glitch33 wrote:No point in slagging off AW or any of the players. We are where we are and have to see it through to the end of the season.
Under the circumstances I thought the boys played well today. It has been a difficult couple of weeks and we looked good and passed the ball well.
Shame about the finishing again but if they continue to play like that and they keep their chins up we can still win the Premiership.
A touch more urgency and and coolness in front of goal will see us through.
pass,pass,pass,pass,pass...DOH!
Van der Sar got man of the match and kept them in it.
Passing the ball into the net is our style of play and has been for years now. When it works it the best football in the country.
As they said on ITV we were great box to box. It justs needs a bit more precision.
We are 3 points behind with a game in hand.
We won;t win the league - if history hasn't taught you anything up until now, then I can't really say anymore.
Learn from history, and you won't repeat it's mistakes.
No positives from tonight at all then?
I thought they went into the game with a better attitude than I expected.
We had clear chances and didn't take them.
Can't do anyhting about players missing and can't give up whilst we are still in a good position to win the league.
No we cannot really do much about missiing players, BUT, we CAN do something about keeping players at the club who are simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH.....
I lost count of the number of times diaby gave the ball away - lost us possession either because he didn't look for someone to pass to/kept the ball too long/ half arsed efforts to find goal....he suffered a horrendous injury agreed but that was sometime ago now...and he always gives away possesion or gives the ball to a player who is already marked and causes them to lose it..
Diaby is feckin' shyte and the sooner he's gone the better...why didn't Wenger play Ramsey instead - as soon as he came on the whole movement of the team improved (going forward)....even denilson was okay tonight...and I never thought I'd say that!..
diaby,eboue,denilson,almunia,squilacci and rosicky need to be shown the door asap...
we were in four competitions 2 weeks ago now we are in one - which if we do somehow manage to win it - will be a fuckin' miracle....
I've always supported wenger - but this really has gone too far...as long as he keeps playing the likes of diaby etc in our team we will win FUCKK ALL!..and that is not only very frustrating and makes me angry enough to want to pick a fight...But it is sad...because it should n't be happening....
bunch wrote:Arsene Wenger won't be sacked. But he may reflect on a failed season and ask himself what he is actually doing and if he is ever going to succeed on the path he is on right now. He may leave. He can't put pur failures just down to injuries, refs and bad pitches.
He's intelligent, he can see that whilst he has built a technically gifted team through a nurturing approach, we fail because we don't have the ruthlessness and hard-arsed cussedness to finish things off. This missing quality, I think, and M Wenger may come to realise, will never be there in a team that is nurtured. You need a hairdryer, you need boots kicked about in the changing room, you need to drop non performers and be cruel to failures.
He may also come to the realisation that his desire to play our game and ignore what the opposition may or may not do doesn't work. Whe was the last time AW tactically out-thought his opposite number in a game? If McCleish can do it for Brum then Fergie can do it easy, time after time, even with a depleted team.
Very well put, mate.
Agreed, very well put and also close to where I am - I don't want wenger to leave, after everything he has done for the club, but I do want him to reflect and see what we are missing, and then fix it. We can't take another same old season. If he can't see this, then he will have to go. And, you AKBs out there, there are other managers who would jump at the chance . . .
bunch wrote:Arsene Wenger won't be sacked. But he may reflect on a failed season and ask himself what he is actually doing and if he is ever going to succeed on the path he is on right now. He may leave. He can't put pur failures just down to injuries, refs and bad pitches.
He's intelligent, he can see that whilst he has built a technically gifted team through a nurturing approach, we fail because we don't have the ruthlessness and hard-arsed cussedness to finish things off. This missing quality, I think, and M Wenger may come to realise, will never be there in a team that is nurtured. You need a hairdryer, you need boots kicked about in the changing room, you need to drop non performers and be cruel to failures.
He may also come to the realisation that his desire to play our game and ignore what the opposition may or may not do doesn't work. Whe was the last time AW tactically out-thought his opposite number in a game? If McCleish can do it for Brum then Fergie can do it easy, time after time, even with a depleted team.
The trouble is that this is the FOURTH year in a row that things have fallen apart in exactly the same way. After the Wigan game last season I wrote an article on the front of this website saying that the penny finally seemed to have dropped having watched the post match interview.
Today the post match interview sees him talking about how their goalkeeper was superb and how we gave everything etc. The man has become blind to the failings of his players - that's why people like Rosicky, Diaby, Denilson etc are still there every fucking week.
Irish Gooner wrote:I wish some rosetinters could tell me how a midfield consisting of 3 defenders including John fucking O'Shea and shite like Gibson, can beat us at their absolute ease.
Please tell me, because if I was a fan of Blackpool watching us today I would be angry.
And the Gypo Granny Shagger once a blue always a blue *word censored* seemed to be back defending like a defensive midfielder aswell.
Chippy wrote:I lost count of the number of time I said "FFS Diaby".
Me too chips me too - he gave the ball away more than all the other players (including the mancscum) on the pitch tonight....why couldn't AW play Rambo from the off....then if he wasn't up to it then bring on the usless prick diaby.....or better still drop to 10 men!
Irish Gooner wrote:I wish some rosetinters could tell me how a midfield consisting of 3 defenders including John fucking O'Shea and shite like Gibson, can beat us at their absolute ease.
Please tell me, because if I was a fan of Blackpool watching us today I would be angry.
And the Gypo Granny Shagger once a blue always a blue c**t seemed to be back defending like a defensive midfielder aswell.
Yeah I noticed how the fat crunt and a few of the other manscum were kickin' thee shyte out of jack....almost (almost) reminded me of what they did to reyes.....
I expected defeat, even while looking at some of the averageness and utter dross in the Utd midfield.
Sad thing is I'm getting so used to these embarrassing defeats, it doesnt hurt as much as it once did.
Lets be honest its not healthy to get worked up over things like this so much. Only in the last 2 weeks we've had some terrible results against Brum, Barca, Sunderland, United, Leyton Orient first game.
Sometimes best to take a step back and watch the collapse from a different angle.
Irish Gooner wrote:I wish some rosetinters could tell me how a midfield consisting of 3 defenders including John fucking O'Shea and shite like Gibson, can beat us at their absolute ease.
Please tell me, because if I was a fan of Blackpool watching us today I would be angry.
And the Gypo Granny Shagger once a blue always a blue c**t seemed to be back defending like a defensive midfielder aswell.
Yeah I noticed how the fat crunt and a few of the other manscum were kickin' thee shyte out of jack....almost (almost) reminded me of what they did to reyes.....
Thing is - Jack is well able for it - a boy of 19 - absolutely puts alot if not all to shame.
Irish Gooner wrote:Least you've still got it in you cusmano.
I expected defeat, even while looking at some of the averageness and utter dross in the Utd midfield.
Sad thing is I'm getting so used to these embarrassing defeats, it doesnt hurt as much as it once did.
Lets be honest its not healthy to get worked up over things like this so much. Only in the last 2 weeks we've had some terrible results against Brum, Barca, Sunderland, United, Leyton Orient first game.
Sometimes best to take a step back and watch the collapse from a different angle.
I expected defeat as well.
But losing to those fuckers will always hurt me - and to see a *word censored* like Scholes walking on this planet even more.
When I watch the news about Japan I forget about Arsenal, which helps
bunch wrote:Arsene Wenger won't be sacked. But he may reflect on a failed season and ask himself what he is actually doing and if he is ever going to succeed on the path he is on right now. He may leave. He can't put pur failures just down to injuries, refs and bad pitches.
He's intelligent, he can see that whilst he has built a technically gifted team through a nurturing approach, we fail because we don't have the ruthlessness and hard-arsed cussedness to finish things off. This missing quality, I think, and M Wenger may come to realise, will never be there in a team that is nurtured. You need a hairdryer, you need boots kicked about in the changing room, you need to drop non performers and be cruel to failures.
He may also come to the realisation that his desire to play our game and ignore what the opposition may or may not do doesn't work. Whe was the last time AW tactically out-thought his opposite number in a game? If McCleish can do it for Brum then Fergie can do it easy, time after time, even with a depleted team.
You may well say that wenger is intelligent but I will counter that with the opinion that he is stubborn, too close to the players, tactically abysmal and power hungry and these traits far outweigh his percdeived intelligence
Stubborn to the point where he still believes his way is the correct and only way
Too close to the players to correctly asses how shit diaby, bendtner etc really are
Tactically abysmal....dont think I even need to quantify this
Power Hungry cos he knows that no other job in any other football institution will allow him this much autonomy to do things his own way from the menu of the players lunches to the colour patterns in london colney right down to player contracts and transfer budgets
