MANCS HOME THREAD

[BournemouthRED]

cant remember much of the game, i was hammered! what a great day tho, perfect day at the footy

[frankbutcher]

I think everyone's missing the point. The team can get up for occasins like United at home. Too many times against the lesser teams we have not been 'up for it' and this has cost us.

Watching us against these lesser teams when they park the bus, shows our lack of experience at grinding out results. The format of the game is we come out of the traps for 20-30 minutes, dominate possession and have a few shots. If we score, we normally go on to win well. If we don't we get frustrated, the game becomes tense and we become vulnerable to goals on the break as we persist with the tippy tappy. The crowd then get on the team's backs (at home) and it all ends in tears.

What I'm really saying is that experience of grinding out results and using a plan B in tight games is what we are lacking. That is a massive issue. It's not a case of simply saying 'we are only short of experience and mental strength'. You can't just develop that.

[USMartin]

I think everyone's missing the point. The team can get up for occasins like United at home. Too many times against the lesser teams we have not been 'up for it' and this has cost us.

Watching us against these lesser teams when they park the bus, shows our lack of experience at grinding out results. The format of the game is we come out of the traps for 20-30 minutes, dominate possession and have a few shots. If we score, we normally go on to win well. If we don't we get frustrated, the game becomes tense and we become vulnerable to goals on the break as we persist with the tippy tappy. The crowd then get on the team's backs (at home) and it all ends in tears.

What I'm really saying is that experience of grinding out results and using a plan B in tight games is what we are lacking. That is a massive issue. It's not a case of simply saying 'we are only short of experience and mental strength'. You can't just develop that.

I think that is partially true.

To me I think its indicative of a club in denaila top to bottom about the fact that there was a major shift in the make-up of this team and both its proven qulity and more importantly experience using that quality.

I think they did such a good job selling the idea nothing had changed that they fooled themselves into believing as wellas they did the supporters.

I don't think they can fall back on grinding out results because I don't think anyone there wants to believe they have to, and the result is they expect everything to go as it should and does on the training ground and they don't know how to cope with it not working in matches and don't expect that it won't anyway.

It's like and I'll use another sport or two buy in High School or college basketball, when you have a team of young but talented players and any Americans here or those who watch American sports know that a talented young team can beat the number one team at their gym by 10 then lose by 20 at home at home to an unranked team in the same week. Young teams or younger teams without experiencing real success are inacapable of approaching every match with the same level of mental and even physical intensity.

That is the big problem we still have too many of those younger or inexperienced players and even our more experienced players now have so little success in their experience they just don't know how to do this. And I think no one in the club wants to believe that matters now because they would have to acknowledge the whole "nothing is going to change" mantra simply wasn't true.