As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
I've followed Arsenal for over 20 years and I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that was the worst European performance I have ever seen from us and we've seen some horror shows in our 16 years or whatever it is of consistent qualification for this competition. Oliver Giroud, Ozil, Mertesacker and Sanchez all probably had their worst games in an Arsenal shirt. Every player let the supporters of this club down tonight big time.
g60gooner wrote:I used to dread going to school or work after a defeat. The way I felt would turn my stomach and piss me off for days. These days, well, I don't feel anything. I am so apathetic and disenchanted with the current set up that I don't worry about going in to work. The guys there - Spuds, Chelski and victims fans among them, don't even bother with banter anymore as they know it doesn't affect me these days.
This is what Wenker has done to me.
What is the point of finishing in the poxy top 4? What is the point of being in this poxy competition, only to struggle out of the group stage before whimpering out in the last 16, no matter who we face? What is the point of signing players of the likes of Sanchez and Ozil, when we know it's a waste of 1 or 2 years of their careers coming to us, before slipping off to some other team with ambition?
Ah well, I guess I do care somewhere deep inside otherwise I wouldn't be bothering to post this.
I must say I do respect you guys who are still so upset by what is happening. I think I vaguely remember how it feels.
Great post mate,it just about sums up how i feel thesedays to a tee.
I couldn't get there tonight thank god, so at the finish I went to the pub , 4 pints of Golden jackal later , nothing has changed , I am still pissed off.
A11M11 wrote:I couldn't get there tonight thank god, so at the finish I went to the pub , 4 pints of Golden jackal later , nothing has changed , I am still pissed off.
Guess what else hasn't changed? Our fucking manager!
augie wrote:
Wally made a big difference when he came on and I give him kudos for that
Must have been watching a different game. He made two decent runs & bottled out of it (shooting) when the keeper looked like smacking into him. Apart from that he did very little else. Just like everyone else on the day !!. This team has no width either attacking or defending. Walcott may help us if he can use his speed out wide but I still think he see's himself as a CF which he's not. Today was pathetic & we will be lucky to finish in 6th spot unless we improve on this.
No, what it is Ray, is that you don't like Walcott or rate his runs, which at times are a striker's runs.
Not just Augie but most fans online, and Souness, noted how Walcott made a positive difference.
augie wrote:
Wally made a big difference when he came on and I give him kudos for that
Must have been watching a different game. He made two decent runs & bottled out of it (shooting) when the keeper looked like smacking into him. Apart from that he did very little else. Just like everyone else on the day !!. This team has no width either attacking or defending. Walcott may help us if he can use his speed out wide but I still think he see's himself as a CF which he's not. Today was pathetic & we will be lucky to finish in 6th spot unless we improve on this.
Walcott posed more of a threat in 10 minutes than Welbeck, Sanchez and Giroud did all game. At least he kept the width and stretched the defence.
Our full backs are the worst. There is no RB and No LB to close down. Suddenly it become to 2 against 1. They kept on playing ball into right side of our defense.
I said on page 1 that if we played anything like we did against leicster we would be embarrassed and thats exactly what happened. exact same team except gibbs and bellerin. playing a middle 3 of ozil, cazorla, and coq simply doesnt work, yet the dope in charge doesnt know that somehow. welbeck is absolute trash and playing him wide is just making it worse. he consistently comes inside, we have no width, and he doesnt track back well enough. Walcott should start 100% of the time over him. Ozil is a fucking player you have on your team when the rest of the team are solid at the other 9 field positions. Ideally he gets carried by the rest of the team and is able to create when that's his sole responsibility. This team is no where near solid enough at every other position. He is wasted on this team, and he looks really bad. I'm not a fan of the type of player he is, but Wenger paid 40million for him and I dont know why, since he was never going to fit in here. Passed on Cesc because of Ozil. Worst decision I can fathom.
Giroud...I don't get this guy. He looks like a quality enough striker at times, then he goes and has games exactly like this one where he looks like he would struggle to get in to a pub team. Mertesaker is done. If he plays another game in the red and white, its 1 game too many. Gabriel looked good enough in his 1 appearance to throw him out with Kos from now on. Sanchez tries and tries but the rest of the team let him down badly. I'm not saying he's had good games recently, but you can tell he's trying to do everything on his own because the rest of the team are shit. Coq, not good enough. This is the most important position on the pitch (imo) and Wenger cant seem to notice that we havent had a good one in a decade. Gibbs, idk about him. Braindead? Monreal is not good but he's better than Gibbs at this point. Ospina is bang on average and not good enough.
I read Wenger's post game statements saying the team were committing defensive suicide especially after it was 1-2...THEN WHY DON'T YOU GET OFF THE FUCKING BENCH, GET YOUR HANDS OUT OF YOUR POCKETS AND FUCKING COACH. YOU STUPID FUCKING C U N T. There isnt a quality manager in the world that would sit on the bench doing absolutely fucking nothing when his team has 9 guys in the offensive half of the pitch in the 93rd minute. Mourinho/Ancellotti/Pep would be screaming at his team to get back and stop being fucking dumb. ZERO tactical awareness from this team, which is all down to the manager and lack of coaching the team. Like Souness said, this team looks like 11 players all playing their own individual game without a true game plan. Speaks volumes of the fuckwit in charge.
He just sat there gawping and frowning, he was afraid to stand up for fear of the jeers from the fans behind. He has become effete, his old French balls have shrivelled up. He is an aesthete, a philosopher now masquarading as a real football coach.