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Back in the days when the EU (or predecessor) was an effective economic union between like-minded countries rather than a political juggernaut between a fragmented plethora of countriesChippy wrote:
#Brexit would be the economic equivalent of leaving your job because you think you can get it back minus all the parts you don't like.
I think Sainsbury's have an offer on tin foil if you need to make a new hat.Sean wrote:I can see it being rigged or held again until they get the result they want. This is likely the only time the British can vote on this important issue.
The EEC was a decent idea back in the day. What isn't decent its morphing into a federal EU superstate which is absorbing the Soviet bloc and engineering the mass movement of people inside Europe, let alone the non-European immigration. It's getting to the point that the Iron Curtain will be seen as a good thing. Which it certainly was not.
The derogatory 'EUSSR' tag isn't entirely unwarranted. How can there be enough homes, jobs, GPs and public services for all the extra people? We can't really cope now, how about in ten years? Thirty? Fifty? The EU is still an economic basket case with Greece, Italy and Spain's economies in the toilet (as is ours, pretty much).
Chippy wrote:I think Sainsbury's have an offer on tin foil if you need to make a new hat.Sean wrote:I can see it being rigged or held again until they get the result they want. This is likely the only time the British can vote on this important issue.
The EEC was a decent idea back in the day. What isn't decent its morphing into a federal EU superstate which is absorbing the Soviet bloc and engineering the mass movement of people inside Europe, let alone the non-European immigration. It's getting to the point that the Iron Curtain will be seen as a good thing. Which it certainly was not.
The derogatory 'EUSSR' tag isn't entirely unwarranted. How can there be enough homes, jobs, GPs and public services for all the extra people? We can't really cope now, how about in ten years? Thirty? Fifty? The EU is still an economic basket case with Greece, Italy and Spain's economies in the toilet (as is ours, pretty much).
Chippy, it wont make any difference on me. I just flushed my Architectural career away by going back to another Firefighting Contract, with me being 40, I don't believe I will be able to start an EU career after 5 or 10 years.Chippy wrote:I think Kosovo and Albania will join much quicker than Turkey as they have reasonable governments.KaQaK wrote:You got me worried Chippy, 20 years
If Xhaka does well for us, would you drop that number for Kosovans and Albanians your majesty?
Absolutely true. Democracy? My arse.Top Londoner wrote:Chippy wrote:I think Sainsbury's have an offer on tin foil if you need to make a new hat.Sean wrote:I can see it being rigged or held again until they get the result they want. This is likely the only time the British can vote on this important issue.
The EEC was a decent idea back in the day. What isn't decent its morphing into a federal EU superstate which is absorbing the Soviet bloc and engineering the mass movement of people inside Europe, let alone the non-European immigration. It's getting to the point that the Iron Curtain will be seen as a good thing. Which it certainly was not.
The derogatory 'EUSSR' tag isn't entirely unwarranted. How can there be enough homes, jobs, GPs and public services for all the extra people? We can't really cope now, how about in ten years? Thirty? Fifty? The EU is still an economic basket case with Greece, Italy and Spain's economies in the toilet (as is ours, pretty much).
I agree with your first point Sean.
Ireland had a referendum in 2008, regarding the Lisbon treaty. They voted against. They then had another in 2009 and 'got it right'.
BREXIT
WENGER OUT
People are morons. Honestly. 90%+ are just morons.northbank123 wrote:You need some more tin foil jokes Chippy
Re-opening it was the only feasible option to avoid endless threats of legal challenges and claims of scandal.
Although why so many morons waited until 11pm on the deadline day to register for the biggest vote they will ever be given is beyond me.
Honestly, about 75% of people leave it until the last day to apply and about 25% leave it until 11pm that night. They hit a technical difficulty and what can they do? Nothing. The morning after a comp closed you'd come into a couple hundred emails and dozens of panicked phone calls from spacktards that had their internet go down half way through applying. 
Fucking idiots. People are stupid. Only about a quarter of the applications are new people. Three quarters are people already on the register but unsure.northbank123 wrote:You need some more tin foil jokes Chippy
Re-opening it was the only feasible option to avoid endless threats of legal challenges and claims of scandal.
Although why so many morons waited until 11pm on the deadline day to register for the biggest vote they will ever be given is beyond me.
Wtf seriously you rate your opinion far far to highlyChippy wrote:And so the conspiracy theories start. If Remain win there will be loads of bollocks stuff about how it was stolen. If Leave wins and the economy goes down the toilet, which it inevitably will do, then there will be another lot of conspiracies about (fill in your favourite hate figure(s)) punishing the English.
Time to buy shares in tin foil.
