Injuries

[SteveO 35]

Sunday 25th May

Top 4 Cup Final Day

I’m expecting a heroic performance at mighty Southampton to pip Bournemouth for the top 4 finish. Laps of honour and a full summer ahead to look forward to the return of our legends Havertz & Jesus

Lap of appreciation Rob if you don't mind - the full spirit of 2013 and those heroic final day top 4 trophies is back with us

[OneBardGooner]

Much as Havertz isn't the long term solution for us and nowhere near a title winning CF, anyone who believes his absence won't make a difference is kidding themselves. He's the only option we had - he can hold the ball up, he wins a lot in the air, and at his best was very good and bringing others into the game. Trossard, Sterling or any other suggested options don't do any of that.

Its not to say Havertz hasn't been shit recently - he has. He'd been diving like a fanny, missed some sitters and had some stinkers. However, all the other suggested 'false 9s' or whatever you want to label them have been equally or more shit and now we're suggesting it won't make any difference if Trossard is playing there, or heaven forbid Merino as an emergency striker. They've been fucking awful in their specialist positions let alone being our answer at CF

By all means suggest Havertz isn't the right guy moving forward, but please don't anyone tell me this is a good thing of even a neutral thing for this season

I didn't even cheer Everton's goal last night. The season is 100% done with Havertz out and we are going to have some desperately miserable weeks ahead and may miss top 4 altogether such is the severity of the attacking problem

100%

[shu]

Like how the fuck can he have fucked it up so bad to be out the rest of the season , give him 4 weeks and he will be back .

[Sid33]

Sunday 25th May

Top 4 Cup Final Day

I’m expecting a heroic performance at mighty Southampton to pip Bournemouth for the top 4 finish. Laps of honour and a full summer ahead to look forward to the return of our legends Havertz & Jesus

Lap of appreciation Rob if you don't mind - the full spirit of 2013 and those heroic final day top 4 trophies is back with us

Agree 100% the stick Havertz gets isn't totally justified. He is playing out of position, he has done it without complaining.
Could Declan Rice play as a no 9 ?
He has scored a decent amount of goals , given he's not a striker and he's missed loads again because he's not a striker!
And it's not Arteta's fault that our whole attack is out with long term injuries.
Yes we should have signed a proper no 9 in the summer and that is his fault, though given our luck he'd have been injured in August.
Havertz' injury is a massive blow, hopefully we have someone lewis skelly like in the background!
Or could this be sterlings chance to shine

[Sid33]

When Bergkamp was deployed as a number 9 at inter they couldnt wait to unload him

[SteveO 35]

Sunday 25th May

Top 4 Cup Final Day

I’m expecting a heroic performance at mighty Southampton to pip Bournemouth for the top 4 finish. Laps of honour and a full summer ahead to look forward to the return of our legends Havertz & Jesus

Lap of appreciation Rob if you don't mind - the full spirit of 2013 and those heroic final day top 4 trophies is back with us

Agree 100% the stick Havertz gets isn't totally justified. He is playing out of position, he has done it without complaining.
Could Declan Rice play as a no 9 ?
He has scored a decent amount of goals , given he's not a striker and he's missed loads again because he's not a striker!
And it's not Arteta's fault that our whole attack is out with long term injuries.
Yes we should have signed a proper no 9 in the summer and that is his fault, though given our luck he'd have been injured in August.
Havertz' injury is a massive blow, hopefully we have someone lewis skelly like in the background!
Or could this be sterlings chance to shine

Sadly Sterling is a busted flush. Its unfathomable that at 29 years old he looks washed up, but that's the fact. He can't beat a man for pace, he's weak and he's unfit. Arteta remembers the Man City version that existed long before the Chavs killed another player. Put in the file marked Mudryk

Arteta has decided over multiple windows to sell Auba, Lacazette, Nketiah and Balogun. I don't violently disagree with any of those decisions but in that time he has signed Jesus and Havertz, neither of whom could be described as natural CFs in the way those 4 could who were sold. That's gross mismanagement - not that we'd ever want Eddie back......but having got £60m combined for him and Balogun, we've spunked it all clustering 5 left backs and 4 holding midfielders. I don't believe Josh Kroenke for one minute has given him the instruction to do that so between him and Edu, they have been responsible for a totally imbalanced squad.

[Perryashburtongroves]

Sunday 25th May

Top 4 Cup Final Day

I’m expecting a heroic performance at mighty Southampton to pip Bournemouth for the top 4 finish. Laps of honour and a full summer ahead to look forward to the return of our legends Havertz & Jesus

Lap of appreciation Rob if you don't mind - the full spirit of 2013 and those heroic final day top 4 trophies is back with us

Agree 100% the stick Havertz gets isn't totally justified. He is playing out of position, he has done it without complaining.
Could Declan Rice play as a no 9 ?
He has scored a decent amount of goals , given he's not a striker and he's missed loads again because he's not a striker!
And it's not Arteta's fault that our whole attack is out with long term injuries.
Yes we should have signed a proper no 9 in the summer and that is his fault, though given our luck he'd have been injured in August.
Havertz' injury is a massive blow, hopefully we have someone lewis skelly like in the background!
Or could this be sterlings chance to shine

Sadly Sterling is a busted flush. Its unfathomable that at 29 years old he looks washed up, but that's the fact. He can't beat a man for pace, he's weak and he's unfit. Arteta remembers the Man City version that existed long before the Chavs killed another player. Put in the file marked Mudryk

Arteta has decided over multiple windows to sell Auba, Lacazette, Nketiah and Balogun. I don't violently disagree with any of those decisions but in that time he has signed Jesus and Havertz, neither of whom could be described as natural CFs in the way those 4 could who were sold. That's gross mismanagement - not that we'd ever want Eddie back......but having got £60m combined for him and Balogun, we've spunked it all clustering 5 left backs and 4 holding midfielders. I don't believe Josh Kroenke for one minute has given him the instruction to do that so between him and Edu, they have been responsible for a totally imbalanced squad.

Absolutely SteveO. There is no excuse at all for being left this short of options two weeks after a transfer window closed and two fucking years after the start of our goalscoring injury crisis. It is horrendously negligent, it's gross fucking mismanagement and incompetence and there really is no logical fucking reason for us to be in mid-February with no fit, available recognised first-team out and out goalscorer. No other supposed title-chasing team would allow this to happen and fucking heads need to roll. Footballers get injured, footballers lose form, footballers get put on the bench for a tactical reason and you make sure you have enough cover in every position to compensate for any situation which you might face over the nine month season. How has this stupid fucking twat allowed this to happen? It's unfuckingforgiveable, a complete disgrace and should lead to the fucking sack. Fucking February and no striker. Fucking February and no fit fucking pretend strikers. Fucking hell. If Josh Kroenke claims he cares about the club and wants success, he needs to get Arteta on the phone tomorrow morning and fucking demand an explanation. Then fucking tell him to fuck off out the door in June. Absolutely fucking pathetic, no fucking excuses. Piss off Arteta and take Sterling and Merino with you, you fucking amateur.

[TeeCee]

Like how the fuck can he have fucked it up so bad to be out the rest of the season , give him 4 weeks and he will be back .

Mate do you understand the different hamstring problems there can be? A simple strain can be, 2-4 weeks out, a tear can be 3 months or more and if it detaches from the bone, like Saka's was rumored to be, it can even be 6 months out even if it heals well. Scarring can cause big additional problems.

It sounds like Havertz has a bad tear so it's several months out.
This was caused by Arteta running high pressing drills in Dubai, working the socks off a guy who needed rest, not an extreme workout! After the Wolves game recently, Havertz collapsed to the floor at the final whistle so exhausted, he needed physio's to help him get to his feet. Arteta is braindead when it comes to player welfare and he flogs them continuously evidently, these bad injuries are almost all down to him, no-one else.
Playing Saka against Preston in the 3rd round of the league cup? Fucking madness!

[Limerick Gooner]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/33370159 ... jury-blow/

Saka out for much longer. What a surprise.

[mcdowell42]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/33370159 ... jury-blow/

Saka out for much longer. What a surprise.

Could see that coming a mile away, when have any of our players ever came back on the time stated.This is all on Arteta, fucking overplaying
them ,ffs Havertz got injured basically on fucking holiday

[OneBardGooner]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/33370159 ... jury-blow/

Saka out for much longer. What a surprise.

Could see that coming a mile away, when have any of our players ever came back on the time stated.This is all on Arteta, fucking overplaying
them ,ffs Havertz got injured basically on fucking holiday

1,000%

[SteveO 35]

Like how the fuck can he have fucked it up so bad to be out the rest of the season , give him 4 weeks and he will be back .

Mate do you understand the different hamstring problems there can be? A simple strain can be, 2-4 weeks out, a tear can be 3 months or more and if it detaches from the bone, like Saka's was rumored to be, it can even be 6 months out even if it heals well. Scarring can cause big additional problems.

It sounds like Havertz has a bad tear so it's several months out.
This was caused by Arteta running high pressing drills in Dubai, working the socks off a guy who needed rest, not an extreme workout! After the Wolves game recently, Havertz collapsed to the floor at the final whistle so exhausted, he needed physio's to help him get to his feet. Arteta is braindead when it comes to player welfare and he flogs them continuously evidently, these bad injuries are almost all down to him, no-one else.
Playing Saka against Preston in the 3rd round of the league cup? Fucking madness!

According to Legohead the training drills had finished and he hurt himself blocking a shot.....yeah, like we all believe that. Very rare that a hamstring goes as a result of blocking a shot. Like you say, it's these high press drills and basically over working an already exhausted player. Fucking ridiculous and its ended our season, just as Liverpool might be having a mini wobble

[Retro Gunner]

Sunday 25th May

Top 4 Cup Final Day

I’m expecting a heroic performance at mighty Southampton to pip Bournemouth for the top 4 finish. Laps of honour and a full summer ahead to look forward to the return of our legends Havertz & Jesus

Jesus should be given the option to terminate his contract at this point, no way he'll ever be the same player again, I think he only has a year left this summer, offer to pay half and let him go.

Same with Tomi, not his fault but he's not offering the squad much if he's out 80% of the time.

We seriously need to build a bigger squad, especially in attack and look at our training methods, wtf was Havertz doing training in Dubai?, he was holding his hamstring at the end of the Wolves game, give him time off to recover ffs.

Half Arteta's fault but just as much on the board, clueless without an actual DoF although they could have been 'hamstrung' by the Krankie's.

I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

[Retro Gunner]

Sunday 25th May

Top 4 Cup Final Day

I’m expecting a heroic performance at mighty Southampton to pip Bournemouth for the top 4 finish. Laps of honour and a full summer ahead to look forward to the return of our legends Havertz & Jesus

They'll be like new signings.

[xgtdec]

"""We've had players who are injured who've played 130 games in the last two seasons, so it's an accident waiting to happen when you continue to load, load and load.""

no mention of the retard who does the loading loading and loading with no rotation, Legohead is a fucking idiot, he shouldn't be allowed in front of the press