THE WENGER THREAD

[QuartzGooner]

But there are other managers out there Herd, though whether any would come is another matter.
But I think the job is well paid, with a good stadium and training ground, and is based as near to central London as any club in the country, so it has a lot going for it.

These names would all be in the mix as a replacement:

Carlo Ancelotti
Michael Laudrup
Juergen Klinsman
Remi Garde
Steve Bould
David Moyes
Juergen Klopp
Marco Van Basten
Dragan Stojkovic
Massimiliano Allegri
Antonio Conte
Huub Stevens

[augie]

But there are other managers out there Herd, though whether any would come is another matter.
But I think the job is well paid, with a good stadium and training ground, and is based as near to central London as any club in the country, so it has a lot going for it.

These names would all be in the mix as a replacement:

Carlo Ancelotti not sure about him tbh
Michael Laudrup worth a shot
Juergen Klinsman no personal grievance with him but doubt he would be accepted by the majority
Remi Garde nowhere near enough experience
Steve Bould no management experience at all
David Moyes worth a punt and he deserves a go at a big club
Juergen Klopp absolutely yes please - number 1 choice for me
Marco Van Basten would be one of my choices for sure
Dragan Stojkovic wengers preferred choice ? no fcuking way
Massimiliano Allegri not sure - personally I dont feel that italian managers travel well
Antonio Conte same as allegri but with less experience
Huub Stevens

outside shot maybe

[QuartzGooner]

Augie

Italian managers don't travel well?

Ancellotti won a double with Chelsea, Di Matteo won a Champions League with Chelsea, Mancini 'the league with Man City.
Sure they had bundles of cash to play with, but that's not bad going!

[OneBardGooner]

The Problem is that, because I don't believe he should go, folk seem to automatically assume I am what is referred to as an AKB... whilst people fail to acknowledge that there is a middle ground, my arguments will be useless.

I do understand your frustrations but I think at this point there is a clear divide into two camps. You can say I want him to stay provided that or because of this but at the end of the day if you want him to stay after nearly 8 years of no trophies and regression it probably is based on your view that Arsene Knows Best.

Most of the people saying give him a year etc will probably say the same when we're in the same position in a year's time.

I guess I understand your view and to that end will have to accept I'm an AKB.

But hey, AKB and Proud is my new motto if that's what folk want to believe then I'll embrace it even tho' it is possible not to feel he always knows best but still think he should stay.

That does not compute!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWwOJlOI1nU

[Steve_I]

Fcuk me! Not only am I in a minority here regarding my views but now my Latin is being questioned!. cunnus

[mikeyb772001]

Fcuk me! Not only am I in a minority here regarding my views but now my Latin is being questioned!. cunnus

Yourself or anyone else on here, I would like you to give me 10 factual based reasons why wenger is the best man for the job.

Please don’t base it on the past.


I will then give debate all 10 reasons.

[flash gunner]

Fcuk me! Not only am I in a minority here regarding my views but now my Latin is being questioned!. cunnus

It is a highbrow forum this one mate

[Steve_I]

Fcuk me! Not only am I in a minority here regarding my views but now my Latin is being questioned!. cunnus

Yourself or anyone else on here, I would like you to give me 10 factual based reasons why wenger is the best man for the job.

Please don’t base it on the past.


I will then give debate all 10 reasons.

No point as I've said many times before. I do not need to justify my view point and any arguments or points I make have already been made and already been shot down and chosen to be 'invalid because we say they are'.

I guess the best way of trying to demonstrate why I think what I think, is the graph that many have seen and has popped up on various forum in recent times.



Outside of Manure, the main reason the second half of Arsene's time is 3/4 rather than 1/2, is money, money spent by shitty and the chavs. No other reason to my mind but massive amounts of money. Short term injections of cash and they will be - when seen in history - short term injections. I believe in the model the club is following and believe that within the next decade we will have accumulated various trophies and tangible success. If I am proven wrong in a decade then so be it, but I won't be.

[Steve_I]

Fcuk me! Not only am I in a minority here regarding my views but now my Latin is being questioned!. cunnus

It is a highbrow forum this one mate

lol

[Clash]

Outside of Manure, the main reason the second half of Arsene's time is 3/4 rather than 1/2, is money, money spent by shitty and the chavs. No other reason to my mind but massive amounts of money. Short term injections of cash and they will be - when seen in history - short term injections. I believe in the model the club is following and believe that within the next decade we will have accumulated various trophies and tangible success. If I am proven wrong in a decade then so be it, but I won't be.

But Arsenal (and/or Wenger) have chosen not to spend money we have had available - money that would have made us more competitive in the last 6 or 7 years if it had been spent on the team! How can anyone seriously defend that?

Whatever Chelsea and Man City have spent is irrelevant to us. Arsenal should always be trying to do the best they can with their own resources, regardless of what happens elsewhere. Giving up and not even trying is inexcusable.

Not spending money we do have is completely different to spending money we dont have ... something that is often brought up by those who ridiculously mention clubs like Portsmouth and Leeds as an example of what spending results in.

Also, lets look at the end of the 2009/10 season. Did we eventually finish 4th behind Chelsea and Man City because of the massive resources those clubs had ... or because our side only won a pathetic 2 out of their last 11 leagues games?

Arsenal have had numerous oppoortunities to compete in recent years but have refused to strengthen our squad when it needed to be strengthened because they didnt want to spend money that they did have. Its disgraceful and everyone involved is disgraceful. Ripping off supporters is not a policy that can ever be applauded.

Quite simpy, the only ambition the club shows now is to make as much money as possible from spending as little as possible. Maxiumum profits. How can selling RvP to Man United be seen as anything other than this? That disgusting deal was the final straw.

Hoarding money for a later time is shortchanging the fans paying a fortune in the present. We dont get cheaper tickets while waiting years for this FFP nonsens to kick in do we?

When I pay out for my season ticket I am paying to see the team compete NOW ... not in a decades time! I want the club to spend what it can now and not fob us off by selling us the future like the bunch of frauds they all are.

[Chippy]

Fcuk me! Not only am I in a minority here regarding my views but now my Latin is being questioned!. cunnus

It is a highbrow forum this one mate

lol

You do know cunnus is singular don't you. If your insult was directed at more than one then it would be cunni. There is also a case (geddit) that it should be vocative as you are addressing the cunnus, so it would be cunne (singular) but still cunni in the plural.

[mikeyb772001]

Fcuk me! Not only am I in a minority here regarding my views but now my Latin is being questioned!. cunnus

Yourself or anyone else on here, I would like you to give me 10 factual based reasons why wenger is the best man for the job.

Please don’t base it on the past.


I will then give debate all 10 reasons.

No point as I've said many times before. I do not need to justify my view point and any arguments or points I make have already been made and already been shot down and chosen to be 'invalid because we say they are'.

I guess the best way of trying to demonstrate why I think what I think, is the graph that many have seen and has popped up on various forum in recent times.



Outside of Manure, the main reason the second half of Arsene's time is 3/4 rather than 1/2, is money, money spent by shitty and the chavs. No other reason to my mind but massive amounts of money. Short term injections of cash and they will be - when seen in history - short term injections. I believe in the model the club is following and believe that within the next decade we will have accumulated various trophies and tangible success. If I am proven wrong in a decade then so be it, but I won't be.

As I thought. It’s easy to make sentimental claims mate, but take that away you have no real factual argument on why wenger should stay

Nobody I speak to that claims wneger should stay can tell me why. Sorry to dig you out but its madness. The debate on wenger staying or going should have valid argument.

I could go on for days telling you why he isn’t the best man

I was really hoping you would give me some facts on why he is doing such a good job, why he deserves 7.5mil, why managers on less money and less salary budgets are now above us or within 1-3 points. Why teams on 88% lower wage budgets not only beat us but now out play us and out think us. Why it’s acceptable not to spend money that’s available. Why it’s perfectly okay to get outplayed by Bradford and not have a shot until 69minutes. Why manure beat us 8.2 why he sets such high wages to shite. Why he won’t address the defence , why he doesn’t seem to have any kind of tactics that change games. Why this is his worst season since 1995? Bla bla bla


I ask you this now, if the scum or Everton chairman told their manager you now have £150 salary budget to play with and also a 70mil transfer kitty on top of any players you sell without any financial implications… would they be clearly above us cementing 3rd or 4th spot

Fuck yes they would! We are digressing and nobody can tell me why wenger should stay


So why exactly should wenger stay?

He doesn’t have a shoe string budget
He’s hands are not tied anymore (now manure, citeh are not our rivals)

[mikeyb772001]

Steve i - "I do not need to justify my view point and any arguments"

Why cant you justify your argument?

Its becuase you cant.

[Steve_I]

Fcuk me! Not only am I in a minority here regarding my views but now my Latin is being questioned!. cunnus

It is a highbrow forum this one mate

lol

You do know cunnus is singular don't you. If your insult was directed at more than one then it would be cunni. There is also a case (geddit) that it should be vocative as you are addressing the cunnus, so it would be cunne (singular) but still cunni in the plural.

Lol, git! I did google but got confused as it took me into vulva territory and I wasn't sure which way to go! oooer missus

[Steve_I]

Steve i - "I do not need to justify my view point and any arguments"

Why cant you justify your argument?

Its becuase you cant.

that quote selective and misleading. I do not need to justify my 'view' is what it says in it's original context and goes on to say 'any arguments or points I make'

It's certainly not because I can't just that I believe the selectivity used against my side of the debate is an unbreakable wall that I have no hope of getting through.