THE WENGER THREAD

[DB10GOONER]

He's staying. His ego will not let him slink away as a failure. Kroenke wants him there for the money. Gazidis is powerless.

The club and him are experts at playing the media. They also know full well how split the fanbase is, and that there are a huge number of waverers that could still go either way. I now believe the club will announce a one or (most likely) two year deal to "help with the transition to a new manager" and by putting it that way they know this will defuse all but the most die-hard protesters, as many people will see the light at the end of the tunnel and think "ok, fuck it, he is FINALLY going to leave, I'm done until then". They will launch a media love-in campaign the likes of which we've never seen before. Cross and Keown etc will talk about "honour" and "respect" and "he has earned it" etc etc. He will offload a couple of scapegoats, and bring in a couple of big money signings in the summer who will be worth fuck all because he will still play tippy tappy shite...

Wenger will then pick his replacement.

If that happens, and I think it will, then yes there is a kind of light at the end of the tunnel, but dear God, another 2 seasons of this horseshit?

The shortsightedness of those that think getting rid of Wenger will cure all our ills will be shown for what it is. No matter what Wenger is, he is an employee of Arsenal FC. The owner has the power to sack him, but won't. Kroenke is a cancer on our club. He will be happy for Wenger to bring in his own hand picked replacement and once that new fuckhead brings in X amount of income then Kroenke will be happy for the club to drift along like all of his sports "franchises". I've said it before, and I'll say it again, yes we need Wenger out, but that is the short term, for the long term health of this club we need the fucking wig-molesting parasite Kroenke the fuck out too.

BTW, I pray to Christ I am wrong as fuck in all of that, but I have an awful feeling I'm not...

[sk-gtfo]

I was thinking this morning and I believe although this is guesswork is what likely has happened.

I think the board offered him a contract, probably 2 years, around xmas time, I think he already signed it then and for whatever reason the announcement was delayed until later.

Obviously here we are now a few months later and the board have finally noticed that a lot of fans are not happy with Wenger, they are regretting offering him the deal, but of course now it's too late!, Wenger has them by the proverbials, so they are in a bit of a 'pickle' as to what to do?.

What they should do is 'man up' admit this was a mistake and sack Wenger, i.e. buy out his remaining 2 years and take the hit, it will cost them £20m (assuming £10m salary) but at least they would show some leadership and perhaps buy back a bit of favour with the fans.

Again this is guesswork, but when you think about it adds up to this bunch of tight corwards, this 1 year deal speculation is probably right, they have probably been begging Arsene please do the right thing and tear up the contract, instead they have agreed a 'compromise' with him to reduce it to 1 year, after all this way they have time to dither like the football idiots they are and they can save some pennies as well.

Now all they have to do is ride out the abuse from that rabble of unwashed customers for 1 season. after all there are only a few hundred of them, the rest of the proles are happy to suck up our bs.

Like I said this is just speculation but would you be surprised if this was the truth?.

Man the f**k up and sack him!!!!.

[flash gunner]

He's staying. His ego will not let him slink away as a failure. Kroenke wants him there for the money. Gazidis is powerless.

The club and him are experts at playing the media. They also know full well how split the fanbase is, and that there are a huge number of waverers that could still go either way. I now believe the club will announce a one or (most likely) two year deal to "help with the transition to a new manager" and by putting it that way they know this will defuse all but the most die-hard protesters, as many people will see the light at the end of the tunnel and think "ok, fuck it, he is FINALLY going to leave, I'm done until then". They will launch a media love-in campaign the likes of which we've never seen before. Cross and Keown etc will talk about "honour" and "respect" and "he has earned it" etc etc. He will offload a couple of scapegoats, and bring in a couple of big money signings in the summer who will be worth fuck all because he will still play tippy tappy shite...

Wenger will then pick his replacement.

If that happens, and I think it will, then yes there is a kind of light at the end of the tunnel, but dear God, another 2 seasons of this horseshit?

The shortsightedness of those that think getting rid of Wenger will cure all our ills will be shown for what it is. No matter what Wenger is, he is an employee of Arsenal FC. The owner has the power to sack him, but won't. Kroenke is a cancer on our club. He will be happy for Wenger to bring in his own hand picked replacement and once that new fuckhead brings in X amount of income then Kroenke will be happy for the club to drift along like all of his sports "franchises". I've said it before, and I'll say it again, yes we need Wenger out, but that is the short term, for the long term health of this club we need the fucking wig-molesting parasite Kroenke the fuck out too.

BTW, I pray to Christ I am wrong as fuck in all of that, but I have an awful feeling I'm not...

This is exactly what will happen

[DB10GOONER]

I was thinking this morning and I believe although this is guesswork is what likely has happened.

I think the board offered him a contract, probably 2 years, around xmas time, I think he already signed it then and for whatever reason the announcement was delayed until later.

Obviously here we are now a few months later and the board have finally noticed that a lot of fans are not happy with Wenger, they are regretting offering him the deal, but of course now it's too late!, Wenger has them by the proverbials, so they are in a bit of a 'pickle' as to what to do?.

What they should do is 'man up' admit this was a mistake and sack Wenger, i.e. buy out his remaining 2 years and take the hit, it will cost them £20m (assuming £10m salary) but at least they would show some leadership and perhaps buy back a bit of favour with the fans.

Again this is guesswork, but when you think about it adds up to this bunch of tight corwards, this 1 year deal speculation is probably right, they have probably been begging Arsene please do the right thing and tear up the contract, instead they have agreed a 'compromise' with him to reduce it to 1 year, after all this way they have time to dither like the football idiots they are and they can save some pennies as well.

Now all they have to do is ride out the abuse from that rabble of unwashed customers for 1 season. after all there are only a few hundred of them, the rest of the proles are happy to suck up our bs.

Like I said this is just speculation but would you be surprised if this was the truth?.

Man the f**k up and sack him!!!!.

The only bit I agree with is that the contract is signed, mate, but not as far back as Xmas. TBH the board are as much a problem as Wenger is. They won't sack him because he brings in what they want him to bring in; money. Our current owners and board don't give a fuck about football, just the business that Arsenal have become.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

I think it's the boards and owners fault

[Gunner Rob]

if Wenger does stay, and I still dont believe he has actually signed anything, then at what point does the Arsenal board (in particular Stan Kroenke) become a bigger problem than Wenger ?

we could well be heading for a decline not seen at Arsenal since the 1920s

[sk-gtfo]

The only bit I agree with is that the contract is signed, mate, but not as far back as Xmas. TBH the board are as much a problem as Wenger is. They won't sack him because he brings in what they want him to bring in; money. Our current owners and board don't give a fuck about football, just the business that Arsenal have become.

I agree they are as much the problem as him and that was my point really, however it has got to the point now where even they are thinking twice about whether or not he should stay, problem is if I'm right it means they have to suffer the embarrassment of admiting he has already signed, and of course more importantly to Kroenke, the cost of buying out his remaining contract.

We will lose a fair bit dropping out of the CL and I also suspect it wont be as easy as some think to sell out those season tickets, I know we still have a substantial waiting list but all it is is a list not an obligation/desire to buy, I heard from a friend who is (was) a st holder last season they were getting quite aggressive selling them, saying if you don't buy you lose your place etc., there is only a fraction on the list who would actually go yeah alright I'll pay £1,400 to watch Europa league and midtable football!.

The chickens as they say, have come home to roost.

[flash gunner]

I think it's the boards and owners fault

USMarty is that you?

[northbank123]

if Wenger does stay, and I still dont believe he has actually signed anything, then at what point does the Arsenal board (in particular Stan Kroenke) become a bigger problem than Wenger ?

we could well be heading for a decline not seen at Arsenal since the 1920s

In one way the board are the biggest problem because although Wenger has overseen the decline, any half-awake board would give him the boot.

[Perryashburtongroves]

The only bit I agree with is that the contract is signed, mate, but not as far back as Xmas. TBH the board are as much a problem as Wenger is. They won't sack him because he brings in what they want him to bring in; money. Our current owners and board don't give a fuck about football, just the business that Arsenal have become.

I agree they are as much the problem as him and that was my point really, however it has got to the point now where even they are thinking twice about whether or not he should stay, problem is if I'm right it means they have to suffer the embarrassment of admitting he has already signed, and of course more importantly to Kroenke, the cost of buying out his remaining contract.

We will lose a fair bit dropping out of the CL and I also suspect it wont be as easy as some think to sell out those season tickets, I know we still have a substantial waiting list but all it is is a list not an obligation/desire to buy, I heard from a friend who is (was) a st holder last season they were getting quite aggressive selling them, saying if you don't buy you lose your place etc., there is only a fraction on the list who would actually go yeah alright I'll pay £1,400 to watch Europa league and midtable football!.

The chickens as they say, have come home to roost.

That's what I'm starting to think. The contract is signed but now the board are waking up to the fact that they want him gone. He's a money-mad, stubborn *word censored* who knows he has them over a barrel legally and is basically daring them to sack him. He's not going to say anything and will force their hand. I'm willing to bet that what's going on behind the scenes most days is a frantic panic between the Gazidis and the board, Wanker and solicitors. It's March 20th today and if there wasn't some protracted issue going on, we would know about next season by now. Something is going on and for legal reasons, nobody can say anything. I'm hoping that it's working out the exact terms of a departure and pay-off but what's more likely is the one-year then just fuck off deal. My guess now is that it's all legal shit going on.

[Allgunsblazin]

He had left that contract on the table since last May, which in the scheme of things is spot on when it comes to Season Ticket renewals...

[Allgunsblazin]

Then pay him up and ship him out!
In the grand scheme of things it is peanuts to a club like ours, no solicitors involved, Yanks do not like litigation...

[DB10GOONER]

Pubis knows

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... tony-pulis

Cúnt of the Year Award goes to the retarded fuckpig that is Iain Macintosh for these gems;

"This week, Arsene Wenger will be the kid in school who knows full well that someone has stuck a "kick me" sign on his bum and simply cannot be bothered to remove it because it won't be long before someone sticks it back on again and what is life anyway but a meaningless slow trudge towards oblivion. We're saving our kicks for the Arsenal players, whose fecklessness, spinelessness and uselessness is becoming irritating even to those of us who don't support the club. Whether Wenger stays or goes, they must take responsibility for their own failings rather than just hoping that he'll take the lumps for them. He's done enough of that over the years."



"And what were a small section of Arsenal fans doing? Paying for light aircraft to trail competing hashtags above football stadiums. Lads, this is Arsenal Football Club, one of the proudest, most storied clubs in British football. You're making it look bad."



http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-unit ... nd-players

It's all the players' and our faults!

[blair207]

I believe that we have arrived at a point where Wenger wants to stay but the board want him gone.
The present run of form is a unique situation alright. For the first time the spineless muppets playing for him can't dig out the results against inferior opposition to save his skin in terms of the VT.
I feel that the season is going to implode big style and the board will have climb off the fence.
They will have to sack him or back him. Because we have a board and owner who seem to have no idea about real football they have sleepwalked into this situation.

[Gunner Rob]

I believe that we have arrived at a point where Wenger wants to stay but the board want him gone.
The present run of form is a unique situation alright. For the first time the spineless muppets playing for him can't dig out the results against inferior opposition to save his skin in terms of the VT.
I feel that the season is going to implode big style and the board will have climb off the fence.
They will have to sack him or back him. Because we have a board and owner who seem to have no idea about real football they have sleepwalked into this situation.

I genuinely can't see us finishing higher than 7th this season - not only is the team playing terribly, we have one of the hardest run ins that I can remember. City, United, Everton all at home will be tough, and with the away fixtures at Stoke, Spurs, Southampton you start to wonder where the next win is going to come from. The lowest points that Wenger has ever got with Arsenal was 67 back in 2006. I think we will do worse this season.