THE WENGER THREAD

[DB10GOONER]

Where are people getting this idea that the Board and the owner now want him gone? Seriously, can someone point me towards one shred of evidence, or even an indication, that there is any truth in that?

Want him gone, my arse. They fucking love him. He brings in the money. This board and owner could give zero fucks about football.

[General]

You guys are overthinking and overcomplicating things. There is a simple explanation for this. The current leadership vacuum is consistent with the way things have played out in previous years when his contract was coming to an end. No contract has been signed. Even though our shares are not listed, the club still has a legal obligation to inform sponsors if they've extended Le fraud's contract. He is gone imo. The club wants to buy time to trash out a deal for the new man before releasing details.

[DB10GOONER]

I believe that we have arrived at a point where Wenger wants to stay but the board want him gone.
The present run of form is a unique situation alright. For the first time the spineless muppets playing for him can't dig out the results against inferior opposition to save his skin in terms of the VT.
I feel that the season is going to implode big style and the board will have climb off the fence.
They will have to sack him or back him. Because we have a board and owner who seem to have no idea about real football they have sleepwalked into this situation.

I genuinely can't see us finishing higher than 7th this season - not only is the team playing terribly, we have one of the hardest run ins that I can remember. City, United, Everton all at home will be tough, and with the away fixtures at Stoke, Spurs, Southampton you start to wonder where the next win is going to come from. The lowest points that Wenger has ever got with Arsenal was 67 back in 2006. I think we will do worse this season.

At this stage everything indicates you are right. But remember Wenger's Deal with the Devil. We should get nowhere near that top 4... but I would not be surprised in the slightest (now that the pressure of winning the CL or the PL is off) to see our flat track bullies put in a run and nick the mythical VT right at the death on the last day... these fuckers have a habit of turning up for the little prizes... how many times have we seen it before?

[JimmyAFC]

I'm depressed...

[begeegs]

You guys are overthinking and overcomplicating things. There is a simple explanation for this. The current leadership vacuum is consistent with the way things have played out in previous years when his contract was coming to an end. No contract has been signed. Even though our shares are not listed, the club still has a legal obligation to inform sponsors if they've extended Le fraud's contract. He is gone imo. The club wants to buy time to trash out a deal for the new man before releasing details.

That's a good point. Is there a precedence with other contract renewals that this occurred? Are there any present or former shareholders here?

[Bob Bayliss]

He's staying. His ego will not let him slink away as a failure. Kroenke wants him there for the money. Gazidis is powerless.

The club and him are experts at playing the media. They also know full well how split the fanbase is, and that there are a huge number of waverers that could still go either way. I now believe the club will announce a one or (most likely) two year deal to "help with the transition to a new manager" and by putting it that way they know this will defuse all but the most die-hard protesters, as many people will see the light at the end of the tunnel and think "ok, fuck it, he is FINALLY going to leave, I'm done until then". They will launch a media love-in campaign the likes of which we've never seen before. Cross and Keown etc will talk about "honour" and "respect" and "he has earned it" etc etc. He will offload a couple of scapegoats, and bring in a couple of big money signings in the summer who will be worth fuck all because he will still play tippy tappy shite...

Wenger will then pick his replacement.

If that happens, and I think it will, then yes there is a kind of light at the end of the tunnel, but dear God, another 2 seasons of this horseshit?

The shortsightedness of those that think getting rid of Wenger will cure all our ills will be shown for what it is. No matter what Wenger is, he is an employee of Arsenal FC. The owner has the power to sack him, but won't. Kroenke is a cancer on our club. He will be happy for Wenger to bring in his own hand picked replacement and once that new fuckhead brings in X amount of income then Kroenke will be happy for the club to drift along like all of his sports "franchises". I've said it before, and I'll say it again, yes we need Wenger out, but that is the short term, for the long term health of this club we need the fucking wig-molesting parasite Kroenke the fuck out too.

BTW, I pray to Christ I am wrong as fuck in all of that, but I have an awful feeling I'm not...

I agree with your analysis of what the club will do and how they will attempt to sell it to the fanbase, but I think they are now misjudging the mood. Sorrow is now turning to anger. . I don't actually think many will now buy the 'one more year' compromise, however the club spins it, especially if we don't retain our top four trophy. The three things which have for so long prevented a lot of Arsenal supporters from joining us in publicly calling for him to go were fear (of AKB aggression/and 'be careful what you wish for'); respect (for what he had achieved and his alleged love for the club); and apathy (it doesn't feel like our club now, so am I really that bothered who manages us?) I sense that there has been a dramatic shift in mood in recent weeks, and that fewer and fewer of our supporters are afraid or have respect for him. That just leaves apathy, which we can probably do little about other than to remind people of what the club once was and what, one day, it just might become again (Wenger is the battle, not the war!).....

We need to be prepared with a rallying cry if this 'one more year' announcement is made, to encourage all Arsenal supporters to join us in saying that this is not remotely acceptable. He does not deserve to go on a twelve-month vanity tour and we won't allow him to indulge himself at the club's continued expense. If the right replacement is not currently available to us, then do what Chelsea have done very effetively before (Hiddink 2009, De Matteo 2011) and appoint an interim manager until we can permanently appoint. We need to keep the momentum going into next season, every match if need be. until he goes.

[General]

I believe that we have arrived at a point where Wenger wants to stay but the board want him gone.
The present run of form is a unique situation alright. For the first time the spineless muppets playing for him can't dig out the results against inferior opposition to save his skin in terms of the VT.
I feel that the season is going to implode big style and the board will have climb off the fence.
They will have to sack him or back him. Because we have a board and owner who seem to have no idea about real football they have sleepwalked into this situation.

I genuinely can't see us finishing higher than 7th this season - not only is the team playing terribly, we have one of the hardest run ins that I can remember. City, United, Everton all at home will be tough, and with the away fixtures at Stoke, Spurs, Southampton you start to wonder where the next win is going to come from. The lowest points that Wenger has ever got with Arsenal was 67 back in 2006. I think we will do worse this season.

Agreed. I too can't see where the next win is going to come from. This team is on a massive downward spiral like Chelsea last season and we could lose every single one of our remaining fixtures. Luckily we've accumulated enough points to still be in with a chance of finishing top 4 unlike Chelsea. This team looks completely lifeless and Le fraud knows this. He's backed himself into a corner and is at the point of no return. It's the main reason he will throw in the towel in my opinion.

[General]

Ex scum telling it like how it is. Keown is so full of shit.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vvOOVCYQX0Q

[JimmyAFC]

Ex scum telling it like how it is. Keown is so full of shit.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vvOOVCYQX0Q

I've lost all respect for Keown.

Fucking muppet.

[blair207]

I believe that at xmas the season didn't look much different from previous seasons, failure to take advantage of chances to put real pressure on Chelsea and a better finish in the CL group than usual because PSV slipped up but not too bad. At that point the board/owners would have no reason to think that Wenger wouldn't be staying.
This implosion has caught them by surprise. We have now had a horrific run, the only half decent league results we've had are Chelsea and ManU. Since the spineless display at Everton we just got worse and worse and the 10-2 thumping from Bayern has totally demoralised the players. Kronke will have to decide what happens and he has no understanding of football other than what Wenger has told him. In my mind each week and each dire result has brought a slow realisation that we are in a genuine crisis.
Maybe there is a contract signed, maybe not but I think the club and Wenger are making it up as they go. We are in a terrible state, the only reason we are in the semis in Wenger has had a massive stroke of luck in getting two draws against nonleaguers in row.
Kronke maybe wants to let Wenger get another year but he is finished, every manager and team in the league knows it. Another years contract would be disaster, who could he convince to sign in the summer when he is leaving anyway. He has to go but I don't think the club have a proper plan yet.

[JimmyAFC]

The man has no life and no shame.

Sad old c***. Get a hobby and fuck off!!!

[DB10GOONER]

I believe that at xmas the season didn't look much different from previous seasons, failure to take advantage of chances to put real pressure on Chelsea and a better finish in the CL group than usual because PSV slipped up but not too bad. At that point the board/owners would have no reason to think that Wenger wouldn't be staying.
This implosion has caught them by surprise.

Mate, seriously? You believe that? We have basically done this same sad shit under Wenger for the last 13 years.

We either start shit and blow any chance of the PL by Xmas but then put a run together to grab a spot in the top 4

Or;

We start good, look like real challengers for a few weeks, and then simply implode after Xmas.

As for the CL??? Every season, same shit; we get knocked out by the first decent team we meet.

There's a reason we call it "Groundhog Season".

[Tomáš]

http://www.spiegel.de/video/arsene-weng ... 51529.html

Arsène Wenger announces decision

Basically saying that he knows what he will do at the end of the season ...
Cheers, Thomas

[DB10GOONER]

Smudger saying on the radio he believes Wenger will sign the contract extension.

[blair207]

I believe that at xmas the season didn't look much different from previous seasons, failure to take advantage of chances to put real pressure on Chelsea and a better finish in the CL group than usual because PSV slipped up but not too bad. At that point the board/owners would have no reason to think that Wenger wouldn't be staying.
This implosion has caught them by surprise.

Mate, seriously? You believe that? We have basically done this same sad shit under Wenger for the last 13 years.

We either start shit and blow any chance of the PL by Xmas but then put a run together to grab a spot in the top 4

Or;

We start good, look like real challengers for a few weeks, and then simply implode after Xmas.

As for the CL??? Every season, same shit; we get knocked out by the first decent team we meet.

There's a reason we call it "Groundhog Season".

I don't get your point. I said this season looked quite similar to other mediocre seasons at xmas. My point is it's gone downhill since then and there isn't a plan because nobody at the club foresaw that although they should have.