As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:I don't understand why anyone on here (with the exception of one or two) wants us to sign any players, surely it's best we don't and fall down the table making any contract extension unlikely.
I mean there are quite a few posters now wanting us to lose so why you want us to sign players and popotentially strengthen.
Or is it that you are little teasers and are just venting frustration but when it does come to game time you support the team wholeheartedly like most supporters and that secretly you cling to the hope that some signings could win us the league even it is wenger in control.
Anyhow happy Friday and I'm writing a speech for my mums wedding tomorrow when I am giving her away (she's no spring chicken but surely I can get a couple of quid for her ) and with 12 brothers and sisters I've got a bit to do
Good luck with the speech and the wedding, mate!
For me, I still cannot bring myself to want us to lose. I have no real problem with fans that can, I just can't. I still want us to win every game, even though I am probably at the most disenfranchised and disheartened I've ever been with The Arsenal. Honestly, I'd be delighted if we won the PL no matter who is manager. If Wenger turns it round this season and wins the PL (extremely unlikely, if not impossible) I'd be just as happy as I was any other year we won it.
I honestly think we've got to a stage now where some of our fans' hatred for Wenger has begun to outweigh their love for Arsenal. Am I wrong in that belief? I don't think so...
A (very) hypothetical question I like to throw at people is this;
Would you accept Arsenal winning the PL this season if it meant Wenger then extending his contract for another 3 years?
Cheers mate, I just hope mum has her sense of humour switched to high
Yeah we seem to be on the same wavelength although I do think we will be outside the top 4 if we stay as we are.
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:I don't understand why anyone on here (with the exception of one or two) wants us to sign any players, surely it's best we don't and fall down the table making any contract extension unlikely.
I mean there are quite a few posters now wanting us to lose so why you want us to sign players and popotentially strengthen.
Or is it that you are little teasers and are just venting frustration but when it does come to game time you support the team wholeheartedly like most supporters and that secretly you cling to the hope that some signings could win us the league even it is wenger in control.
Anyhow happy Friday and I'm writing a speech for my mums wedding tomorrow when I am giving her away (she's no spring chicken but surely I can get a couple of quid for her ) and with 12 brothers and sisters I've got a bit to do
Good luck with the speech and the wedding, mate!
For me, I still cannot bring myself to want us to lose. I have no real problem with fans that can, I just can't. I still want us to win every game, even though I am probably at the most disenfranchised and disheartened I've ever been with The Arsenal. Honestly, I'd be delighted if we won the PL no matter who is manager. If Wenger turns it round this season and wins the PL (extremely unlikely, if not impossible) I'd be just as happy as I was any other year we won it.
I honestly think we've got to a stage now where some of our fans' hatred for Wenger has begun to outweigh their love for Arsenal. Am I wrong in that belief? I don't think so...
A (very) hypothetical question I like to throw at people is this;
Would you accept Arsenal winning the PL this season if it meant Wenger then extending his contract for another 3 years?
If we won the league it would vindicate wengers transfer policy so I don't think anyone could dispute a contract extension, but we won't.
When we were 3-1/4-1 down on Sunday I looked around the team waiting to kick off, the body language was awful, heads down no one talking trying to motivate the others. This is professional sport ffs, these idiots should look at our athletes in Rio an absolute credit to the country many of them showing bags of mental strength and determination.
I am genuinely worried that if last season was a missed opportunity to win the league, there are several teams that will finish above us this term if we don't buck our ideas up quick. That starts from the top, addressing the deficiencies in our squad. I always want Arsenal to win btw, the club comes first before any individual agendas imo.
LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:I don't understand why anyone on here (with the exception of one or two) wants us to sign any players, surely it's best we don't and fall down the table making any contract extension unlikely.
I mean there are quite a few posters now wanting us to lose so why you want us to sign players and popotentially strengthen.
Or is it that you are little teasers and are just venting frustration but when it does come to game time you support the team wholeheartedly like most supporters and that secretly you cling to the hope that some signings could win us the league even it is wenger in control.
Anyhow happy Friday and I'm writing a speech for my mums wedding tomorrow when I am giving her away (she's no spring chicken but surely I can get a couple of quid for her ) and with 12 brothers and sisters I've got a bit to do
Good luck with the speech and the wedding, mate!
For me, I still cannot bring myself to want us to lose. I have no real problem with fans that can, I just can't. I still want us to win every game, even though I am probably at the most disenfranchised and disheartened I've ever been with The Arsenal. Honestly, I'd be delighted if we won the PL no matter who is manager. If Wenger turns it round this season and wins the PL (extremely unlikely, if not impossible) I'd be just as happy as I was any other year we won it.
I honestly think we've got to a stage now where some of our fans' hatred for Wenger has begun to outweigh their love for Arsenal. Am I wrong in that belief? I don't think so...
A (very) hypothetical question I like to throw at people is this;
Would you accept Arsenal winning the PL this season if it meant Wenger then extending his contract for another 3 years?
If we won the league it would vindicate wengers transfer policy so I don't think anyone could dispute a contract extension, but we won't.
When we were 3-1/4-1 down on Sunday I looked around the team waiting to kick off, the body language was awful, heads down no one talking trying to motivate the others. This is professional sport ffs, these idiots should look at our athletes in Rio an absolute credit to the country many of them showing bags of mental strength and determination.
I am genuinely worried that if last season was a missed opportunity to win the league, there are several teams that will finish above us this term if we don't buck our ideas up quick. That starts from the top, addressing the deficiencies in our squad. I always want Arsenal to win btw, the club comes first before any individual agendas imo.
I remember doing that and seeing exactly the same thing last season when we went 1-2 down at home to Swansea.......and that was when we were genuinely still in the race playing against a Swansea reserve team that couldn't buy a fucking win at the time. I knew in that moment there would be no coming back from that, either that match or the season itself, and so did everyone else unfortunate enough to be in the stadium. Not one senior player did anything to try and get a bit of a reaction going and it shows the yellow streak and complete lack of leadership that runs through this team........hardly surprising when our policy of captaincy is giving it to whoever might be leaving in order to appease them, or a permacrock.
I was watching one of the old Arsenal games in the old bruised banana kit the other day up at Anfield. I think it may well have been Ray Parlour's debut and he gave away a penalty. TA6 was straight over there after it happened, geeing him up and one can only assume saying something to the effect of "fucking forget about that, get your head up and lets beat this shit"
There isn't a single player in this squad capable of doing that, but in the words of The Coach of the Decade "captaincy is overplayed"
Oh joy! That will be nice for Christmas no need too buy anyone then.
Welbeck could be back for Christmas
Arsenal
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Good news Arsenal fans - Danny Welbeck could return from injury a few months earlier than was expected. Here's manager Arsene Wenger explaining how the serious knee injury suffered by the 25-year-old striker at the end of last season has been reassessed.
"He has an inflammation of his knee and they had to go in again to see if it is healing well or not," Wenger said.
"He had a second check, not a procedure, a check with a camera inside. If the healing was not good, he would have been out until April. The news was excellent and he will be back around Christmas."
Hope they put the camera inside the right leg. Give it a wash lads and stick it in Arsene's brain! Maybe it can tell us whats going on. Cause no other fucker knows!!
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LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:I don't understand why anyone on here (with the exception of one or two) wants us to sign any players, surely it's best we don't and fall down the table making any contract extension unlikely.
I mean there are quite a few posters now wanting us to lose so why you want us to sign players and popotentially strengthen.
Or is it that you are little teasers and are just venting frustration but when it does come to game time you support the team wholeheartedly like most supporters and that secretly you cling to the hope that some signings could win us the league even it is wenger in control.
Anyhow happy Friday and I'm writing a speech for my mums wedding tomorrow when I am giving her away (she's no spring chicken but surely I can get a couple of quid for her ) and with 12 brothers and sisters I've got a bit to do
Good luck with the speech and the wedding, mate!
For me, I still cannot bring myself to want us to lose. I have no real problem with fans that can, I just can't. I still want us to win every game, even though I am probably at the most disenfranchised and disheartened I've ever been with The Arsenal. Honestly, I'd be delighted if we won the PL no matter who is manager. If Wenger turns it round this season and wins the PL (extremely unlikely, if not impossible) I'd be just as happy as I was any other year we won it.
I honestly think we've got to a stage now where some of our fans' hatred for Wenger has begun to outweigh their love for Arsenal. Am I wrong in that belief? I don't think so...
A (very) hypothetical question I like to throw at people is this;
Would you accept Arsenal winning the PL this season if it meant Wenger then extending his contract for another 3 years?
If we won the league it would vindicate wengers transfer policy so I don't think anyone could dispute a contract extension, but we won't.
When we were 3-1/4-1 down on Sunday I looked around the team waiting to kick off, the body language was awful, heads down no one talking trying to motivate the others. This is professional sport ffs, these idiots should look at our athletes in Rio an absolute credit to the country many of them showing bags of mental strength and determination.
I am genuinely worried that if last season was a missed opportunity to win the league, there are several teams that will finish above us this term if we don't buck our ideas up quick. That starts from the top, addressing the deficiencies in our squad. I always want Arsenal to win btw, the club comes first before any individual agendas imo.
I remember doing that and seeing exactly the same thing last season when we went 1-2 down at home to Swansea.......and that was when we were genuinely still in the race playing against a Swansea reserve team that couldn't buy a fucking win at the time. I knew in that moment there would be no coming back from that, either that match or the season itself, and so did everyone else unfortunate enough to be in the stadium. Not one senior player did anything to try and get a bit of a reaction going and it shows the yellow streak and complete lack of leadership that runs through this team........hardly surprising when our policy of captaincy is giving it to whoever might be leaving in order to appease them, or a permacrock.
I was watching one of the old Arsenal games in the old bruised banana kit the other day up at Anfield. I think it may well have been Ray Parlour's debut and he gave away a penalty. TA6 was straight over there after it happened, geeing him up and one can only assume saying something to the effect of "fucking forget about that, get your head up and lets beat this shit"
There isn't a single player in this squad capable of doing that, but in the words of The Coach of the Decade "captaincy is overplayed"
I've had this argument on here before, where some posters have agreed with Mr 30 Years that the captaincy is no longer important in the modern game. Absolute horseshit. A good captain can inspire, cajole or harangue a team to victory against the odds. TA6 is the perfect example, the way he knew who to bollock and who to throw a brotherly arm around, knowing which approach would get the best response from each player.
I remember that Swansea match and the same feeling of "we are fucked now".
I've had this argument on here before, where some posters have agreed with Mr 30 Years that the captaincy is no longer important in the modern game. Absolute horseshit. A good captain can inspire, cajole or harangue a team to victory against the odds. TA6 is the perfect example, the way he knew who to bollock and who to throw a brotherly arm around, knowing which approach would get the best response from each player.
- DB10GOONER
I totally agree with this but it also goes further, there needs to be more than the Captain, there needs to be multiple individuals within the team who can get a response from their colleagues.
Unfortunately AW has managed to reduce our team to a bunch of startled deer with no leadership on the pitch anywhere, ironically the only person, useless as he was, that i have seen try to gee the team on in recent seasons was Captain Stupid and he was a complete failure at it.
When Adams or Viera as examples were out for any reason, you could still rely on others to carry out their job and get the team firing most of the time when there was a set back.
I've had this argument on here before, where some posters have agreed with Mr 30 Years that the captaincy is no longer important in the modern game. Absolute horseshit. A good captain can inspire, cajole or harangue a team to victory against the odds. TA6 is the perfect example, the way he knew who to bollock and who to throw a brotherly arm around, knowing which approach would get the best response from each player.
- DB10GOONER
I totally agree with this but it also goes further, there needs to be more than the Captain, there needs to be multiple individuals within the team who can get a response from their colleagues.
Unfortunately AW has managed to reduce our team to a bunch of startled deer with no leadership on the pitch anywhere, ironically the only person, useless as he was, that i have seen try to gee the team on in recent seasons was Captain Stupid and he was a complete failure at it.
When Adams or Viera as examples were out for any reason, you could still rely on others to carry out their job and get the team firing most of the time when there was a set back.
Leaders and fighters. That whole back line were both, whilst Petit, Vieira, Lauren, Parlour were all players who could mix and Th14 and DB10 wouldn't let anyone take the piss either. When they could find little else to criticise us for it used to be how many red cards we'd had under TO1AW, whilst under GG they even docked us points for our on the field incidents. I'd swap that in favour of these limpdicks we have now who chuck the towel in against the likes of Swansea, Southampton and Stoke........and tip toe their way round OT and Stamford Bridge looking to escape with a small defeat
Arsenal have started talks with Atletico Madrid over the signing of 21-year-old Uruguay centre-back Jose Gimenez. (Daily Mail)
However, Arsenal will have to pay Jose Gimenez's release clause of 65m euros (£56m). (Marca)
Arsenal have started talks with Atletico Madrid over the signing of 21-year-old Uruguay centre-back Jose Gimenez. (Daily Mail)
However, Arsenal will have to pay Jose Gimenez's release clause of 65m euros (£56m). (Marca)
As if wenker would EVER pay £56mill.
I can see Wenger going with his "expert evaluation" and offering £23million.
When they say "no", he'll go back with an improved offer of... £25million.
He's going to bring further shame & embarassment to our club by scrambling around on the last couple days of the transfer window trying to get an average defender at a knock off price.
Still no striker by the way and IMO we need a top striker as much as we do a centre half!
scotgooner wrote:He's going to bring further shame & embarassment to our club by scrambling around on the last couple days of the transfer window trying to get an average defender at a knock off price.
Still no striker by the way and IMO we need a top striker as much as we do a centre half!
And if he thinks that 50% goes on the price when an English club is involved, wait til foreign clubs are approached by an AFC manager desperate to buy someone in the last five minutes of the transfer window. It'll be 40 million for Vermaelan and 60 million for Bendtner.
just imagine if we had united's transfer window, coupled with their recent managerial appointment! we'd be blowing our load, most excited we'd ever be for a new season. instead we've already given up and some are already hoping we don't strengthen and we lose games.
it's a fucking state, our club should be embarassed.
) and with 12 brothers and sisters I've got a bit to do
