THE WENGER THREAD

[sk-gtfo]

Press = gutless wimps

They run out of questions after 10minutes of Q&A. Shocking.

To be fair what are you going to do?
They know he won't answer any real questions.

They should do what fans should do with games until the end of the season - just don't turn up.

Wenger sat in the press office on his own, that would dent his over inflated ego a little.

[sk-gtfo]

We are a big club.
We have won 13 league titles which is only bested by Man United and Liverpool.

Even before the Wenger era, we had a golden period in the George Graham era,

The man is a traitor and saboteur.

When I came to England in 1972 we had won the League 8 times.
Liverpool, Manchester United and Everton were on 7
The rest of London had combined 3

We had won the F.A. Cup 4 times.
Manchester United had 3
Liverpool had 1
I can't remember how many the rest of London had at that time.

Man United had the European Cup, George Best, and the plane crash, but we were comfortably the biggest Club in the South, and had got a European Trophy as well ( I believe the rest of London also had a few )

The Board let us down by not investing even then, and then sold the Club to an arsehole and let the biggest arsehole carry on running the Club at 4th level.


We are underachieving. Massively. And this fraud of a "manager" has let the other London Clubs get dangerously close, if not ahead of us.

It will only get worse Babu, Kroenke will see to that with his lack of ambition whilst City, Chelsea, United, Spurs & Liverpool move ahead of us. I fear we are in for another long spell like '71-89' under this c**t of an owner.

I hope Danny Fiszman is burning in hell for selling out to Kroenke just to spite Dein, pathetic stuff. Fans need to wake up, I just want Wenger to f**k off now so the attention can shift to the bigger problem, get out of the way Wenger FFS!.

[Kvltman]

Asked whether his players would give a positive response, he said: “You can never guarantee that.

“In football, you have to accept that the risk is part of it and that you can win, lose or draw. What you want – the real response – is to play with total commitment and with total belief in what we do.

“We might get there (into the top four), we might not get there, but the only thing to get there is to believe we can do it and that’s what we have to focus on.

“It’s not the fear to fail, it’s the desire to make it and that’s the only chance we have to make it.”

And not one of the journalists in there asked him where all of the above was at Selhurst Park on Monday?!

All that comes out of this mans mouth is hot air and bla bla bla. It will be a disgrace when he is allowed to carry on.

Lying to everyone about the decision about his future at WBA a few weeks back. Not even known who his captain is. You couldn't make this stuff up.

[Theoperator]

Daily Mail reporting that Sir Chips Keswick walked out at Palace after they scored their second goal !

Potentially big news IF true, because it demonstrates 2 things - 1. Arsenal are now a classless shitty little club and 2. The board must be split on what to do with Wenger.

I increasingly don't think Wenger will last until the end of the season but we will see...

Dont see much in that one TBF, Bet it was his prostate that was irritating him rather than the score

[OneBardGooner]

Daily Mail reporting that Sir Chips Keswick walked out at Palace after they scored their second goal !

Potentially big news IF true, because it demonstrates 2 things - 1. Arsenal are now a classless shitty little club and 2. The board must be split on what to do with Wenger.

I increasingly don't think Wenger will last until the end of the season but we will see...

Dont see much in that one TBF, Bet it was his prostate that was irritating him rather than the score

Maybe it was the score that irritated his prostate !?

[Sean]

For the masochists out there, TOF's press conference is posted in the match thread

I think we could take Keswick's walk-out as a signal to the outside that he isn't happy. Fuck, who could be? Apart from AKBs and the Syrup.

On the 71-89 comparison, we're only five years away from equalling that barren run If TOF doesn't go soon, we shall break that record fairly easily, I'd think

[StuartL]

Asked whether his players would give a positive response, he said: “You can never guarantee that.

“In football, you have to accept that the risk is part of it and that you can win, lose or draw. What you want – the real response – is to play with total commitment and with total belief in what we do.

“We might get there (into the top four), we might not get there, but the only thing to get there is to believe we can do it and that’s what we have to focus on.

“It’s not the fear to fail, it’s the desire to make it and that’s the only chance we have to make it.”

And not one of the journalists in there asked him where all of the above was at Selhurst Park on Monday?!

All that comes out of this mans mouth is hot air and bla bla bla. It will be a disgrace when he is allowed to carry on.

Lying to everyone about the decision about his future at WBA a few weeks back. Not even known who his captain is. You couldn't make this stuff up.

"It's not the fear to fail, It's the desire to make it" from the guy who would sign up for second place for 20 years if given the opportunity

Rewarding mediocrity gets its back in abundance.

[GoonerMuzz]

Wish one of these journos would ask the question 'Why do you always seem to want to compete for 4th place, why is your ambition for the 5th richest club in the world not to win the league?'

[northbank123]

Wish one of these journos would ask the question 'Why do you always seem to want to compete for 4th place, why is your ambition for the 5th richest club in the world not to win the league?'

The answer will be along the lines "of course we want to win the league. Every club wants to win tr league. Perhaps that is why it is so difficult."

I would enjoy seeing journos giving him the tough time he deserves, but the reality is that whatever he is asked, the responses won't change a thing for the board and for those fans who can't find fault in anything he does.

[sk-gtfo]

See it is things like this, in regard to a question about the alleged £300k a week offer to Sanchez, that really irritate me.

“First of all, I cannot confirm that we have offered that. Secondly, we will do as always, you know, we have to consider our financial potential to sustain the wages for the whole squad.”

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Get back to doing your f**king job Arsene, if you want to be Arsenal's financial officer fine then f*ck off and apply to the club for a new job role, his job is to build a team and coach it to be organised, motivated and hopefully equipped to win the title or CL now and then, he spends far too much time with his head in places that he shouldn't, perhaps because he is crap at doing the job he should be doing!!.

Again though the board have to take a fair share of the blame, it seems for the last decade their attitude has been pretty much leave it all to Arsene as he knows about this "football stuff", clearly they should have done more to structure the club so it wasn't to heavily dependant on one (insane) man, the fact that they have been blind to this until now just shows what is in store for us in future with Kroenke and co at the helm.

Unless something very drastic happens this summer, I'm done, I mean really what is the point...

[northbank123]

This idea that he has chartered the club to financial security and that his financial knowledge is an asset is obscene.

Let him apply for CFO or FD jobs at other massive plcs, see how impressed they are by his 40+ year old undergraduate economics degree.

To be honest the fact that he thinks he knows about finance has been hugely damaging. He was banging on and on around 2009/10 that football cannot exist in a bubble and how transfer prices etc would come crashing down. He built his whole philosophy and long-term plan on that and it has turned out to be spectacularly wrong.

[supergeorgegraham]

The most successful club still in the English League is Liverpool. I rate their 5 European Cups compared to Uniteds 3 higher than United having 1 more league title.
We are third and Everton are fourth.
As you know they have not won the title since 1990 but they are a massive club with history as are we.
In today's football world it's seen as Man City and Chelsea but they both only achieved success through a Billionaire who wanted success.
As things stand both Wenger and Kroenke have led us down a road that will lead to us becoming Liverpool. No title will come our way until both are gone. I don't see Kroenke selling Arsenal so we are finished.
Just hope Wenger gets slaughtered if he signs a new contract, no need to accept this shite anymore.

[StuartL]

This idea that he has chartered the club to financial security and that his financial knowledge is an asset is obscene.

Let him apply for CFO or FD jobs at other massive plcs, see how impressed they are by his 40+ year old undergraduate economics degree.

To be honest the fact that he thinks he knows about finance has been hugely damaging. He was banging on and on around 2009/10 that football cannot exist in a bubble and how transfer prices etc would come crashing down. He built his whole philosophy and long-term plan on that and it has turned out to be spectacularly wrong.

He advised the club to be frugal, while other clubs speculated , and told the football world how clever he was as this spending lark was " unsustainable" years on every premier league club has got money and no-one else has "done a Leeds" have they ?

The club (board) are just as bad though smugly talked about other clubs wanting to follow their " well run club philosophy" yet I haven't seen, Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Juve, PSG, Chelsea follow our lead and ditch winning for generating profit.

[sk-gtfo]

He advised the club to be frugal, while other clubs speculated , and told the football world how clever he was as this spending lark was " unsustainable" years on every premier league club has got money and no-one else has "done a Leeds" have they ?

The club (board) are just as bad though smugly talked about other clubs wanting to follow their " well run club philosophy" yet I haven't seen, Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Juve, PSG, Chelsea follow our lead and ditch winning for generating profit.

It's all bollox anyway, until recently we had 3 billionaire's owning most of our shares - Russia's richest man (or thereabouts), a guy who buys £750M ranches the size of Wales and is married into the Walmart family, the last one of them has p*ssed off to Everton (the poorest of the 3!), we charge some of the highest ticket prices in World sport and yet we hear Wenger preaching about being frugal etc. just f**k off company man.

Kroenke chooses to lock Usmanov out, then we are supposed to buy all this self sustaining bs fed to us by these odious c**ts.

[Wilson]

This idea that he has chartered the club to financial security and that his financial knowledge is an asset is obscene.

Let him apply for CFO or FD jobs at other massive plcs, see how impressed they are by his 40+ year old undergraduate economics degree.

To be honest the fact that he thinks he knows about finance has been hugely damaging. He was banging on and on around 2009/10 that football cannot exist in a bubble and how transfer prices etc would come crashing down. He built his whole philosophy and long-term plan on that and it has turned out to be spectacularly wrong.

What about financing of the stadium. In 2006, the club issued a 260m bond at commercial rates which was fixed for a 14 year period. Although it was only a year later the financial crisis happened, and all central banks around the world lowered interest rates to ensure liquidity remained. However, as we agreed to a fixed term interest rate, rather than a variable rate that moves with the broader market, we were stuck for 14 years paying close to 7-8% a year in interest, when the market rates for similar bonds were like 3-4% post financial crisis, and has continued to decline even up to today.

Why didnt Wenger using his 'financial expertise' to suggest a variable rate?

Our financing of the Emirates stadium was ridiculously expensive. Even the Highbury apartments were sold on the cheap because the housing crisis spread to the UK. The club clearly didnt do their research on market financing, or they did - but were blind to the dangers.

Wenger also keeps banging on about clubs 'going bankrupt'. Yet no there is no danger to any major European club going bankrupt. He keeps making these financial predictions that just never occur. Yet even still, he talks like his worlds are the gospel.

It really is a trait - to be able to talk so confidently about the laws of football and economics, ye not be humbled by getting it wrong so often. You could never say Wenger doesnt have a high opinion of himself.


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