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As I said before I understand that logic and I understand the 50% reality over the 100% dream point u made earlier but the point I (and I think flash) is making is that as long as wenger stays there will be no 50% reality Whether you are a wenger disciple or a wenger critic, everybody knows that wenger has his own way of working.......full stop. He doesnt do compromise and he doesnt even think that he is wrong or even on the wrong path so what are the chances of him changing his work practices now ?
Maybe in an ideal world wenger cottons on to the shit load of mistakes he has been making in recent seasons (not buying enough proven quality, not ridding the club of proven sub standard players, not having more emphasis on tactics, not instilling passion into his players) and makes real strides to correct these mistakes and we are all happy to hold onto the man that has revolutionised our club but the reality, for me at least, is that this is very very unlikely to happen and so, in my opinion, the best that this form of protest can acheive is for it to lead to a high profile stand off with the club because for real progress there needs to be real demonstrations
augie wrote:As I said before I understand that logic and I understand the 50% reality over the 100% dream point u made earlier but the point I (and I think flash) is making is that as long as wenger stays there will be no 50% reality Whether you are a wenger disciple or a wenger critic, everybody knows that wenger has his own way of working.......full stop. He doesnt do compromise and he doesnt even think that he is wrong or even on the wrong path so what are the chances of him changing his work practices now ?
Maybe in an ideal world wenger cottons on to the shit load of mistakes he has been making in recent seasons (not buying enough proven quality, not ridding the club of proven sub standard players, not having more emphasis on tactics, not instilling passion into his players) and makes real strides to correct these mistakes and we are all happy to hold onto the man that has revolutionised our club but the reality, for me at least, is that this is very very unlikely to happen and so, in my opinion, the best that this form of protest can acheive is for it to lead to a high profile stand off with the club because for real progress there needs to be real demonstrations
I just hope it makes either AW or the board realise that they haven't got the full unswerving support of every arsenal fan.
mikeyb772001 wrote:We need to get other Facbook pages involved also other bloggers like Le Grove , Where has my Asrenal gone and She wore a yellow ribon
I agree, we just need to finish our mission statement and then decide on the next course of action.
mikeyb772001 wrote:We need to get other Facbook pages involved also other bloggers like Le Grove , Where has my Asrenal gone and She wore a yellow ribon
I agree, we just need to finish our mission statement and then decide on the next course of action.
1.) To encourage the club to reinvest the very high and still increasing ticket prices in the playing squad so that it is of a standard that reflects this.
2.) We seek clarity over the club's youth policy, in particular pay rises for young players, which have increased the club's wage bill considerably but not resulted in trophies.
3.) We seek to understand the PLC's longer term vision and strategy. We respect the social obligations and wider business interests of the PLC, but are concerned that the football team winning trophies is no longer the PLC's main priority.
What do you think of these as the movement's aims?
Arsenal 1991 wrote:1.) To encourage the club to reinvest the very high and still increasing ticket prices in the playing squad so that it is of a standard that reflects this.
2.) We seek clarity over the club's youth policy, in particular pay rises for young players, which have increased the club's wage bill considerably but not resulted in trophies.
3.) We seek to understand the PLC's longer term vision and strategy. We respect the social obligations and wider business interests of the PLC, but are concerned that the football team winning trophies is no longer the PLC's main priority.
What do you think of these as the movement's aims?
This is good. Lets get this finalised and then seek support from other online sources.
augie wrote:As I said before I understand that logic and I understand the 50% reality over the 100% dream point u made earlier but the point I (and I think flash) is making is that as long as wenger stays there will be no 50% reality Whether you are a wenger disciple or a wenger critic, everybody knows that wenger has his own way of working.......full stop. He doesnt do compromise and he doesnt even think that he is wrong or even on the wrong path so what are the chances of him changing his work practices now ?
Maybe in an ideal world wenger cottons on to the shit load of mistakes he has been making in recent seasons (not buying enough proven quality, not ridding the club of proven sub standard players, not having more emphasis on tactics, not instilling passion into his players) and makes real strides to correct these mistakes and we are all happy to hold onto the man that has revolutionised our club but the reality, for me at least, is that this is very very unlikely to happen and so, in my opinion, the best that this form of protest can acheive is for it to lead to a high profile stand off with the club because for real progress there needs to be real demonstrations
Time to start an Arsenal FC not Arsene FC movement?
Arsenal 1991 wrote:Just 10 people away from 100 fans on facebook and 55 followers on twitter. Viva la revolution.
We haven’t even started marketed it yet. No links on other online sites, no networking as of yet. Haven’t even told anyone about its the site looks bare and no info
It needs banners, pictures , spending tables , finance reports, info on player contracts, info on current wages at the club
Anything to make people read it and be sick to the stomach with anger and frustration.
Arsenal 1991 wrote:Just 10 people away from 100 fans on facebook and 55 followers on twitter. Viva la revolution.
We haven’t even started marketed it yet. No links on other online sites, no networking as of yet. Haven’t even told anyone about its the site looks bare and no info
It needs banners, pictures , spending tables , finance reports, info on player contracts, info on current wages at the club
Anything to make people read it and be sick to the stomach with anger and frustration.
King Jayson is trying to get access now.
We just need to agree on the mission statement. Im not happy with the wording of the first point yet!
1.) To encourage the club to reinvest the very high and still increasing ticket prices in the playing squad so that it is of a standard that reflects this.
2.) We seek clarity over the club's youth policy, in particular pay rises for young players, which have increased the club's wage bill considerably but not resulted in trophies.
3.) We seek to understand the PLC's longer term vision and strategy. We respect the social obligations and wider business interests of the PLC, but are concerned that the football team winning trophies is no longer the PLC's main priority.
Whether you are a wenger disciple or a wenger critic, everybody knows that wenger has his own way of working.......full stop. He doesnt do compromise and he doesnt even think that he is wrong or even on the wrong path so what are the chances of him changing his work practices now ?
