THE WENGER THREAD

[Vinny1967]

It's a thread for all Wenger points of view. Some of those will be extreme. But this was created to make sure that those extremes didn't encroach too much on to other threads.

A little too delicate people.

Maybe and maybe the ridiculing of posts puts people off posting. I hope not.

[flash gunner]

It's a thread for all Wenger points of view. Some of those will be extreme. But this was created to make sure that those extremes didn't encroach too much on to other threads.

A little too delicate people.

Maybe and maybe the ridiculing of posts puts people off posting. I hope not.

Mate youve got to have a thick skin on here at times and also the courage of your convictions. If you love Wenger or hate him you have the right to say so on this thread, you may be ridiculed although abuse wont be allowed but if you believe for instance that he is good have enough to back up your argument. For example i dont dislike Theo as much as most on here and i get a bashing for it at times but i'll still stick up for what i think. If you look at the Flamini thread me and augie who normally agree on most things totally disagree with the way Cashley Hole was played in the Champions League final of 2006 and both of us have valid reasons.

Back up your arguments and ridicule/banter/wind ups wont bother you

[arseofacrow]

It's a thread for all Wenger points of view. Some of those will be extreme. But this was created to make sure that those extremes didn't encroach too much on to other threads.

A little too delicate people.

Maybe and maybe the ridiculing of posts puts people off posting. I hope not.

How many posts out of 6 pages have been ridiculed?

I also hope that such a miniscule "problem" doesn't prevent people from posting on a thread which inevitably will be living on the edge, given that this is one of the testiest and heated of current Arsenal subjects.

[skizz_b]

have a thick skin

also the courage of your convictions

have enough to back up your argument

stick up for what you think

Back up your arguments and ridicule/banter/wind ups wont bother you

In other words

BE A MAN!

[Vinny1967]

It's a thread for all Wenger points of view. Some of those will be extreme. But this was created to make sure that those extremes didn't encroach too much on to other threads.

A little too delicate people.

Maybe and maybe the ridiculing of posts puts people off posting. I hope not.

Mate youve got to have a thick skin on here at times and also the courage of your convictions. If you love Wenger or hate him you have the right to say so on this thread, you may be ridiculed although abuse wont be allowed but if you believe for instance that he is good have enough to back up your argument. For example i dont dislike Theo as much as most on here and i get a bashing for it at times but i'll still stick up for what i think. If you look at the Flamini thread me and augie who normally agree on most things totally disagree with the way Cashley Hole was played in the Champions League final of 2006 and both of us have valid reasons.

Back up your arguments and ridicule/banter/wind ups wont bother you

Ah I understand that Flash. Pretty thick skin myself. For me its not even about arguing and more to do with opinions.
I do try to respect people's opinions and glide over the usual poison that is spouted

Just making a point

[augie]

and now he's defending RVP saying he was the best striker at the Euros and said the chances he missed are down to fatigue!!! No 5hit sherlock!! That would be because you left us with only 1 striker all season. You really are an unlikeable chap Wenger I'm trying not to be abusive!!

Not being funny mate, but we Had Gervinho, Park, Ashavin, Walcott and Chamakh. If we had dropped RvP for any of these people would moan about that. Just because the other's didn't step up to the plate.

As I said, usually I'd agree with getting Wenger out, but this season seem's different. Actually buying proven talent and still being linked with others does show promise. If they all fall flat on there face and we have a repeat of this season then yeah, get rid.

EDIT TO ADD: How can anyone call him a C**t? Where you calling him a C**t in 03/04? I'm not saying he should live off of past success, far from it, but calling him a c**t seems a bit OTT to me

Who be that ? Podolski I will grant you but after that ? Giroud comes to us as top scorer in france last season but chamakh was also top scorer when he joined us and that didnt work out so well did it ? This is the same french league that seen the forehead get into double figures for goals in the season before he joined so you have to factor in the quality of that league before pinning too much expectations on giroud.

With the greatest will in the world we all want giroud to light the place up when he joins but we have to be fair and admit that he is unproven in a top league, unproven at international level and unproven at champs league level. If the guy is bought as a replacement for rvp then I would suggest that the outlook for next season could be worse than the last few - it is too early to make that conclusion but likewise it is too early to be tyhinking that we have turned the corner

[Vinny1967]

It's a thread for all Wenger points of view. Some of those will be extreme. But this was created to make sure that those extremes didn't encroach too much on to other threads.

A little too delicate people.

Maybe and maybe the ridiculing of posts puts people off posting. I hope not.

How many posts out of 6 pages have been ridiculed?

I also hope that such a miniscule "problem" doesn't prevent people from posting on a thread which inevitably will be living on the edge, given that this is one of the testiest and heated of current Arsenal subjects.

Enough. Am glad we agree

[I Hate Hleb]

It's a thread for all Wenger points of view. Some of those will be extreme. But this was created to make sure that those extremes didn't encroach too much on to other threads.

A little too delicate people.

Well said. To be honest I'm sick and tired of all the moral outrage. There are more than enough other Arsenal fan websites that are prepared to suck on Wenger's nuts regardless of what he does, so if people don't like to read critism of their deity, perhaps they should feck off to one of those rather than continually whinging about how things are done on here?

[mcdowell42]

I too have gone through the ridicule and the abuse with regard to my wonderful Rumours thread which is still going strong.If only people could see me for the visionary i am

[clockender1]

it is too early to make that conclusion but likewise it is too early to be tyhinking that we have turned the corner

if this was school, AW gets a C- and a "must do better"

we STILL need a DM and a back up/rotational CB.

we also need to see how these two will play together, play with the team, play with or without RvP.

it's not only how they will do in the PL, it's also how they fit the team - and how they are utilised.

At least this year they will be in pre-season from the start.

i'll judge us on the first 8 games - if we're less than W6 D1 L1 then its a FAIL for the offseason.

we need to start strong and build on it this year, i'm looking for 2nd and a Cup (fuck the CL)

[franksav63]

it is too early to make that conclusion but likewise it is too early to be tyhinking that we have turned the corner

if this was school, AW gets a C- and a "must do better"

we STILL need a DM and a back up/rotational CB.

we also need to see how these two will play together, play with the team, play with or without RvP.

it's not only how they will do in the PL, it's also how they fit the team - and how they are utilised.

At least this year they will be in pre-season from the start.

i'll judge us on the first 8 games - if we're less than W6 D1 L1 then its a FAIL for the offseason.

we need to start strong and build on it this year, i'm looking for 2nd and a Cup (fuck the CL)

We also need another keeper (an experienced one) to put Szczesny under pressure, because he's acting like he's made it and also back-up's that we've got are 100pct shit.

[SammyDroppedHisShorts]

This thread is for all fans to say what they think of the constant dramas surrounding Arsene Wenger.

Please adhere to the rules set by Mike and remember this thread will be heavily moderated if necessary.
Please try not to start numerous Wenger threads and try and stick them here, some mods lock some don't but we need some coherence here and lets keep all Wenger chat here.

Over to you

Vinny and co.

I started this thread due to the numerous threads on this subject being started. If you feel aggrieved by some of the comments I respect that, but it's open to all parties. It will moderated accordingly if things are out of line.

I think we all appreciate what Wenger did when he arrived and for the seasons of glory, and I think we can all be annoyed at no trophies in seven years...so it's both edges of the sword.

Calling to have a thread locked on the basis of some criticism is a bit rich, after all we all pay our money and hope for a successful side.... And when the poo hits the fan only one man can be held accountable...so as much as we all have a right to support Wenger we also have a right to be concerned and criticise the boss.....within a reasoned mind

[mcdowell42]

This thread is for all fans to say what they think of the constant dramas surrounding Arsene Wenger.

Please adhere to the rules set by Mike and remember this thread will be heavily moderated if necessary.
Please try not to start numerous Wenger threads and try and stick them here, some mods lock some don't but we need some coherence here and lets keep all Wenger chat here.

Over to you

Vinny and co.

I started this thread due to the numerous threads on this subject being started. If you feel aggrieved by some of the comments I respect that, but it's open to all parties. It will moderated accordingly if things are out of line.

I think we all appreciate what Wenger did when he arrived and for the seasons of glory, and I think we can all be annoyed at no trophies in seven years...so it's both edges of the sword.

Calling to have a thread locked on the basis of some criticism is a bit rich, after all we all pay our money and hope for a successful side.... And when the poo hits the fan only one man can be held accountable...so as much as we all have a right to support Wenger we also have a right to be concerned and criticise the boss.....within a reasoned mind

Interesting i remember how a wonderful far reaching visionary thread was locked by someone( cant remember who ) at its inception but common sense prevailed and now its over 150 pages long

[armchair]

The posts on this thread alone prove how divisive Wenger has become. Splitting fans, creating bad atmospheres in the grounds and online. Turning gooner against gooner.
Forget about all the other shit he's done/failed to do. For this reason alone he should walk.

Arrogant, hateful, egotistical, stubborn, selfish rigid, greedy bastard that he is.

[Vinny1967]

This thread is for all fans to say what they think of the constant dramas surrounding Arsene Wenger.

Please adhere to the rules set by Mike and remember this thread will be heavily moderated if necessary.
Please try not to start numerous Wenger threads and try and stick them here, some mods lock some don't but we need some coherence here and lets keep all Wenger chat here.

Over to you

Vinny and co.

I started this thread due to the numerous threads on this subject being started. If you feel aggrieved by some of the comments I respect that, but it's open to all parties. It will moderated accordingly if things are out of line.

I think we all appreciate what Wenger did when he arrived and for the seasons of glory, and I think we can all be annoyed at no trophies in seven years...so it's both edges of the sword.

Calling to have a thread locked on the basis of some criticism is a bit rich, after all we all pay our money and hope for a successful side.... And when the poo hits the fan only one man can be held accountable...so as much as we all have a right to support Wenger we also have a right to be concerned and criticise the boss.....within a reasoned mind

Ah I didn't want the tread locked , far from it Sammy as I think your right to start one as there were a few.

A moment of weakness mate