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1989 wrote:"I think it speaks for itself. I played there eight years and had a fantastic time there. I have respect for the fans, the players, the manager and the whole club."
Eight years in which he won 1 FA Cup as a bit part player when we had world class players
In 1 year at United he won something he could have tried and failed to win for another 10 years under Wenger
I don't think that's the point 1989 was making, mate.
I too can understand his reasons for leaving no matter how sickening it is to see him in a United shirt but he seems to have the club out of his system now which is a little sad. He captained our great club and yet fast forward a year or so and he's celebrating scoring against us in a far from subtle way.
I just think a former captain should be more reserved and respectful. Had a touch of the Bentley and O'Leary about him today. I get our fans have hardly helped, but that doesn't wipe out 8 years of support from the fans, manager and club.
We lost away to a poor side who scored through zonal marking. Again.
We gave them far too much respect and defended deep in the first half, abandoning the pressing game . When we did get the ball we broke too slow and let them reorganise every time.
We were better 2nd half, we could of nicked a goal which would of been a fairer result.
Utd looked poor and will lose more games, city lost and the chavs cheated a point.
Anyone could win it this year, and we're hampered by a thin squad, poor preparation and rigid tactics. With pod and Wally back we have more options but unless Wenger improves his non existing Game Management we will not dominate even though we have probably the best first 11.
Good to see TV back and looking fit and committed. Gnabry looked okay.
I'm pissed off we lost but I almost expected It.
But we are still top and could be in the mix at Xmas this year.
The quotes were from last season, in response to why he didn't celebrate against us. Gave it large today though didn't he, the lying judas scum.
Any half-decent manager would get that picture and pin it up at the training ground and every day between now and playing them again, would be telling the players to ram it back down his fucking throat, tell them that this *word censored* left because he said you were all beneath him and that you were losers, that he disrespected you and the club and that you should go out there and tear into him and his *word censored* teammates.
1989 wrote:"I think it speaks for itself. I played there eight years and had a fantastic time there. I have respect for the fans, the players, the manager and the whole club."
Eight years in which he won 1 FA Cup as a bit part player when we had world class players
In 1 year at United he won something he could have tried and failed to win for another 10 years under Wenger
I don't think that's the point 1989 was making, mate.
I too can understand his reasons for leaving no matter how sickening it is to see him in a United shirt but he seems to have the club out of his system now which is a little sad. He captained our great club and yet fast forward a year or so and he's celebrating scoring against us in a far from subtle way.
I just think a former captain should be more reserved and respectful. Had a touch of the Bentley and O'Leary about him today. I get our fans have hardly helped, but that doesn't wipe out 8 years of support from the fans, manager and club.
Perhaps, but respect is a 2 way street and singing those pathetic songs about him being a rapist make us look fucking small time in my opinion....up there with the shit the Scummers sang to Campbell and what those plastic wankers were singing to Wenger today about him being a paedo again. Can't we just boo without all that "she said no" bollocks that we once hated when he played for us
Every fucking time Rooney has a blinder because we play exactly the same way. He runs his bollocks off not giving our deep-lying midfielders and defenders any time on the ball and disrupts our passing game at source, and causes problems by dropping deep and providing the link between the main striker and midfield that we so desperately lacked today.
We missed Rosicky badly today, don't think it would have made a difference in the grand scheme of things but I'm sure he would have tried to inject some tempo into our play. It was such a waste playing Flamini alongside Arteta in such a deep-lying role because we didn't need both defensively and we should really have been utilising the extra man to dominate the middle of the park, our strongest area, or to allow us to play Ozil or Cazorla in a far more advanced central position so that Giroud wasn't 25 yards away from the nearest man whenever the ball was played to him.
SteveO 35 wrote:
Perhaps, but respect is a 2 way street and singing those pathetic songs about him being a rapist make us look fucking small time in my opinion....up there with the shit the Scummers sang to Campbell and what those plastic wankers were singing to Wenger today about him being a paedo again. Can't we just boo without all that "she said no" bollocks that we once hated when he played for us
Agreed, I hate that rapist song. It's embarrassing.
But 8yrs at a club that you captained should surely bring out more respect and control that he managed today. It's not difficult to hold back your celebration as acknowledgement of his time at Arsenal. I'd be amazed if he wasn't treated very well by the staff and players at Arsenal, so it's a poor reflection on the man (and the little boy inside ) that he wasn't able to behave in a manner more befitting of a former captain.
Maybe I'm old fashioned but that wasn't nice to see.
Yeah the flamini arteta axis failed. Even a half fit jack did add some tempo in the 2nd half.
The problem is Wenger as a) he doesnt know who is best midfield is and b) doesn't understand that that changes from game to game depending on the opposition.
clockender1 wrote:Yeah the flamini arteta axis failed. Even a half fit jack did add some tempo in the 2nd half.
The problem is Wenger as a) he doesnt know who is best midfield is and b) doesn't understand that that changes from game to game depending on the opposition.
The disappointing thing for me was that he set us up to allow them to get at us when their confidence was fragile. On the rare occasions we did press it was obvious that Smalling was a disaster waiting to happen, De Gea is still a nervy puncher, Evra has seen his best days and Evans is a calamity waiting to happen
A major missed opportunity. My only hope is that a very ordinary United side now think they've turned the corner and don't buy anyone because that midfield and defence will never win the CL in a million years
I will confess to singing the "she said no" song, I know it's out of order but I hate him and after a few beers
on the concourse at away games I give in to my idiotic side. At my age I really should know better.
I do actually prefer the other verse of that song as it sums up what I think of him even more.
If he wants to celebrate then nothing we can do about it but he will always be a c**t.
My only pleasure this season(if today is the start of groundhog day) will be in knowing that Gollum will not win that lot a trophy this season with that squad. The chavs and sh*tty are miles ahead of them in class. Even the Saints first team is better than theirs which is why I'm not as confident of that game as most are.
It'll be our first after a 2 week break and lord knows how many injuries we'll pick up over the break.
I'm looking forward to Clive Tyledesley bringing up this defeat every 30secs during the England game on Friday night.
northbank123 wrote:Every fucking time Rooney has a blinder because we play exactly the same way. He runs his bollocks off not giving our deep-lying midfielders and defenders any time on the ball and disrupts our passing game at source, and causes problems by dropping deep and providing the link between the main striker and midfield that we so desperately lacked today.
We missed Rosicky badly today, don't think it would have made a difference in the grand scheme of things but I'm sure he would have tried to inject some tempo into our play. It was such a waste playing Flamini alongside Arteta in such a deep-lying role because we didn't need both defensively and we should really have been utilising the extra man to dominate the middle of the park, our strongest area, or to allow us to play Ozil or Cazorla in a far more advanced central position so that Giroud wasn't 25 yards away from the nearest man whenever the ball was played to him.
What do you know aye? You haven't worked 30 years in football....
On a serious note, I'm fuming, not just the result but the lack of heart and desire to give them a fucking game. Typical abject pass pass pass lose possession football that is soul destroying to watch at times. Just seeing those tossers raise their game for us should have given us the incentive to give it right back.
What is up with Cazorla in the big games? Always does a houdini. Ozil was the worst I have ever seen him play, looks tired and disinterested which is not a good sign this early on.
SteveO 35 wrote:
Perhaps, but respect is a 2 way street and singing those pathetic songs about him being a rapist make us look fucking small time in my opinion....up there with the shit the Scummers sang to Campbell and what those plastic wankers were singing to Wenger today about him being a paedo again. Can't we just boo without all that "she said no" bollocks that we once hated when he played for us
Agreed, I hate that rapist song. It's embarrassing.
But 8yrs at a club that you captained should surely bring out more respect and control that he managed today. It's not difficult to hold back your celebration as acknowledgement of his time at Arsenal. I'd be amazed if he wasn't treated very well by the staff and players at Arsenal, so it's a poor reflection on the man (and the little boy inside ) that he wasn't able to behave in a manner more befitting of a former captain.
Maybe I'm old fashioned but that wasn't nice to see.
Compared to the disrespect he showed us after everything in the way that he manufactured his move him celebrating a goal in the biggest game of the PL season so far doesn't really register with me. In fact I'd rather him actually celebrate rather than taking pity on us like last year.
SteveO 35 wrote:
The 'disgrace' was who was supposed to be there on the end of a match winning cross at the end.......a useless fat lump of Danish lard having us off for £50k per week.
Who cares where Bendtner is from? It's cheap shot.
I don't give a where he's from either Quartz......don't bring that into it, its a simple point of reference.
It is not simple "point of reference" when used in that context though, when used as an insult.
It brings nationalistic prejudice into it which is the thin end of the wedge.
I agree steveo, but it's very tough for any one to set up open and risk getting beat, just out of habit.
We should have started with Gnabry and Giroud up front, to put them on the back foot from the off and trusted Rambo and flam to screen the back four, with Ozil and Caz free to roam.
But the tv analysis showed Caz Ozil and Ramsey all way too deep to be anyway effective .
We got beat not by skill or effort today but by tactics - same as the chavs.
) that he wasn't able to behave in a manner more befitting of a former captain.
