Everton away match thread.

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What? he needs to teach an England midfielder to hit a ball straight from 10 yards. Do me a favour? 15 shots and 3 on target. Tactics are his fault but simple technique and composure are not.

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WE8SPURS wrote:I can't help feeling if the managers were to swap dugouts with the players they would have at their disposal Arsenal would be taking all three points today. It's bordering on criminal that Wenger can make a group of quality players look so poor with his tactics. I except that a point away to Everton is no mean feet but I'm growing so painfully tired of watching this shit! Learn from your mistakes Arsene, LEARN FROM YOUR FUCKING MISTAKES :banghead:
Absolutely spot on.
People keep slagging the players (sometimes deserved) but I generally think when we win games it is despite the manager not because of.

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Oezil has never really impressed except for the first few months that he got here. He's either :censored: , doesn't care, or is being misused.

well, of course he's being misused but his overall attitude and body language are like he can't be bothered.

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I think we've got to look past his body language. He looks like that playing for Germany as well. He being played in the wrong position, but he's never going to be a tracking back player.

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Ozil and cazorla should be the ONLY two players playing the number 10. Not Wilshire. Ozil and cazorla should NEVER be played wide left. Rosicky Walcott sanchez and ox should be the ONLY players stuck out wide on either flank. Podolski and Campbell should be played when we go to a two forward formation.

I don't understand how AW doesn't see this. He is fucking mental.

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milesgooner wrote:What? he needs to teach an England midfielder to hit a ball straight from 10 yards. Do me a favour? 15 shots and 3 on target. Tactics are his fault but simple technique and composure are not.
My whole point being if a player is struggling with part of his game you see to it as a coach that he works on it in training and iron out any problems with his technique... :roll:

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I really hate saying this, but we could do with James Milner........(there I've said it!). We need a midfielder that can go forward, play on the wing and help out the full backs on away days like today. Please don't judge me!!!!

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Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:Ozil and cazorla should be the ONLY two players playing the number 10. Not Wilshire. Ozil and cazorla should NEVER be played wide left. Rosicky Walcott sanchez and ox should be the ONLY players stuck out wide on either flank. Podolski and Campbell should be played when we go to a two forward formation.

I don't understand how AW doesn't see this. He is fucking mental.
Totally agree. Sorry jack but you're on the bench until you can play your way back into the team. Why spend £42 mil on a world class number ten and then play him out on the wing where he looks so out of his depth. He's shit at defending but he should never be expected to, putting him out there negates all his best attributes. The same applies to Cazorla.

Jack needs to stop believing his own hype and do what Ramsey apparently did and go back to basics, until he masters those he should never start a game.

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Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:Ozil and cazorla should be the ONLY two players playing the number 10. Not Wilshire. Ozil and cazorla should NEVER be played wide left. Rosicky Walcott sanchez and ox should be the ONLY players stuck out wide on either flank. Podolski and Campbell should be played when we go to a two forward formation.

I don't understand how AW doesn't see this. He is fucking mental.

agreed, maybe Rosicky could be central too.

I hated Ol' Purple Nose as much as anyone but it seemed to me that he had a system and a starter for each position and then a second player. There was never a lot of flipping around if I recall.

Look at Diaby, I've seen him played as a

d-mid,
striker
#10
wide midfield

to me the players often look confused, like they don't know what to do or what's expected of them.

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Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:Ozil and cazorla should be the ONLY two players playing the number 10. Not Wilshire. Ozil and cazorla should NEVER be played wide left. Rosicky Walcott sanchez and ox should be the ONLY players stuck out wide on either flank. Podolski and Campbell should be played when we go to a two forward formation.

I don't understand how AW doesn't see this. He is fucking mental.
Seems pretty obvious to me.
I honestly believe wenger doesn't know the best position for a lot of our players...which in itself is truely fucking astounding.

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Chambers seems to be getting a free ride but his performances so far have been awful. Had that been Squillaci everyone would be moaning about him not being up to standard. The fact is he's full of silly errors and can't position himself properly, he cost us one goal today and very nearly another.

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silus wrote: I honestly believe wenger doesn't know the best position for a lot of our players....
i honestly believe you are correct. i've been thinking that since 2012.

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trustno10 wrote:Chambers seems to be getting a free ride but his performances so far have been awful. Had that been Squillaci everyone would be moaning about him not being up to standard. The fact is he's full of silly errors and can't position himself properly, he cost us one goal today and very nearly another.
behave yourself... your digging out a 19 yr old who we brought in as cover for RB, who had never played at CB for southampton in a competative game. He's been chucked in at the deep end due to our inability to sign a half decent CB as cover even though we had plenty of time to do so. :banghead:

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milesgooner wrote:I really hate saying this, but we could do with James Milner........(there I've said it!). We need a midfielder that can go forward, play on the wing and help out the full backs on away days like today. Please don't judge me!!!!


Sad but true. AW can't seem to understand that sometimes the opposition have the ball and target Santi / Ozil out wide who are inept defenders. Maybe not Milner, but someone of that ilk.

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Welbeck?

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