Monaco (A)

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I can't understand the criticism levelled at Ozil? he performed better than Sanchez who was losing possession more frequently, especially in the second half.
Wenger took off the wrong two players, Giroud and Sanchez should've come off not coquelin and welbeck. Giroud was not causing their CBs's any problems, welbeck was running at them Giroud conceded more free kicks than he won.

Anyway, it's all irrelevant fact is we are no where near being champions in England let alone Europe for the last 9 years and being eliminated in last 16 is where we currently stand in Europe. We're 4th in England and would be fourth in Italy, spain and Germany. We shouldn't even be playing in the "Champions League", it is a false competition. There should be 3 competition in Europe, Champions League for champions only, the Wenger league trophy, for runners ups 2nd - 4th and Europa league for the those not good enough for the first two.

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I thought ozil was ok and is coming back fitter and stronger,we may see what he is actually about during the run in

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Thought Ozil did pretty well - tremendous to see him chasing back in the last minute of stoppage time after all the work he'd gotten through.

I have been pretty critical towards him but play him at 10 every game and then judge him. He would absolutely take the piss at home to relegation fodder and it would likely improve his performance in bigger games then.

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northbank123 wrote:Thought Ozil did pretty well - tremendous to see him chasing back in the last minute of stoppage time after all the work he'd gotten through.

I have been pretty critical towards him but play him at 10 every game and then judge him. He would absolutely take the piss at home to relegation fodder and it would likely improve his performance in bigger games then.

Agreed, it was him who stopped a Monaco attack in the last min...give him a clinical finisher and see the result.

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Chippy wrote:Do we have a new trophy? The Glorious Failures trophy, or the Gallant Losers? :barscarf: :barscarf:
It is called the Valiant Victors award and yes, we have won it more than any team in history.

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First of all, hi. I'm new to this forum, have been an Arsenal supporter since I was 10 (I'm now 21). I find a lot of your theories and feelings resonate with me too. I'm sick of Wenger, his old tired smug looking face, his refusal to buy a fucking decent striker. Danny 'I only score when it's absolutely fucking necessary' Welbeck?
I want:
- Theo OUT
- Chezney OUT
- Mertesacker OUT
- Gibbs OUT
- Flamini OUT
- Arteta OUT
- Welbeck OUT

I want Schneiderlin or even Kondogbia will do.
I want a top class striker. Like Lewandowski or Benzema, or Reus (play him up top)
I want a top keeper. There are several. Cech, the Leverkusen keeper, bid for Lloris FFS.
I want a top centre half like Subotic.


Szczęsny make me more angry than anyone else on the team. The amount of fucking times I have seen him run off his line only to blunder or fuck up and let a goal in is shocking for a professional goalkeeper. You don't see children make those mistakes in a park.

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It's interviews like this that makes me irate.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archiv ... -we-can-be

If this clown showed it a bit better in the first leg we wouldn't be talking about how close we were, can't wait to see him leave the club.

He gets praised for his honesty and did in the media after the game but ignored the fact that he is the leader of this team that surrendered the tie at home.

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Gunnersaurus wrote:It's interviews like this that makes me irate.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archiv ... -we-can-be

If this clown showed it a bit better in the first leg we wouldn't be talking about how close we were, can't wait to see him leave the club.

He gets praised for his honesty and did in the media after the game but ignored the fact that he is the leader of this team that surrendered the tie at home.


Tbh right now, apart from sanchez, kos, debouchy, the ox and maybe ramsey, I am very meh about any or all of the rest of them leaving :roll:

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Glorious Failure.

Groundhog Day.

Unfortunately, having enough good players will generally get you far. Having a manager capable of managing through the final laps of major competitions is another.

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Oh, and I went to Phibbers for the game and can confirm it has now re-opened.

:D :wink:

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arseofacrow wrote:Oh, and I went to Phibbers for the game and can confirm it has now re-opened.

:D :wink:
Fucking hell that's taken a long while hope they did a good job 8)

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Nos89 wrote:I can't understand the criticism levelled at Ozil? he performed better than Sanchez who was losing possession more frequently, especially in the second half.
Wenger took off the wrong two players, Giroud and Sanchez should've come off not coquelin and welbeck. Giroud was not causing their CBs's any problems, welbeck was running at them Giroud conceded more free kicks than he won.

Anyway, it's all irrelevant fact is we are no where near being champions in England let alone Europe for the last 9 years and being eliminated in last 16 is where we currently stand in Europe. We're 4th in England and would be fourth in Italy, spain and Germany. We shouldn't even be playing in the "Champions League", it is a false competition. There should be 3 competition in Europe, Champions League for champions only, the Wenger league trophy, for runners ups 2nd - 4th and Europa league for the those not good enough for the first two.
Thankfully, who cares about the CL, as the FA Cup is clearly much harder to win! :lol: :roll:
Jesus how on earth will we prepare for the mighty Reading? Much sooner be facing Bayern about now... :lol: :oops:

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what is laughable is the French bloke whining about how Monaco didn't deserve to go through because of the lack of shots they had over the 2 legs compared to us.
No I know I haven't spent a day in football but I'm sure the idea of the game is about how many times you actually put the ball in the opponents goal, not how many shots you have. The team that scores the most is then the winner.
Have I got that right :rubchin:

Now as we had 2 matches to try to score more than them but failed to do so tells me that they must have been the better team over the 2 matches :shock:

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northbank123 wrote:Not a lot to say. Difficult to find fault with last night and we put in a tremendous effort (as evidenced by our players being so knackered at the end) but we already blew it and another glorious failure.
Yes got some pride back after the disaster at the Emirates, Fans were absolutely incredible, drunk Monaco dry, really superb support they were all round the ground,we had a go and did not make it, was a great effort

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Redarmy wrote:
northbank123 wrote:Not a lot to say. Difficult to find fault with last night and we put in a tremendous effort (as evidenced by our players being so knackered at the end) but we already blew it and another glorious failure.
Yes got some pride back after the disaster at the Emirates, Fans were absolutely incredible, drunk Monaco dry, really superb support they were all round the ground,we had a go and did not make it, was a great effort
There's no pride only embarrassment. We got knocked by fucking Monaco and they are supposed to be the weakest team and it turned out we are the weak ones. We got the best draw in yrs and yet we still went out. I know who's to blame and it's certainly not the away goal rule.

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