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Re: Arsene Wenger - For him or against him?

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DB10GOONER wrote:
augie wrote:I am sick of the hacks analysing wenger's job performance purely on past achievements and the cash comparisons with the chavs and citeeh :evil: Where is their analysis of his tactics including the legendary one striker against the mights of bradford and blackburn ? Where is their analysis or highlighting the infamous 65th-70th minute substitute policy employed by wenger ? Why is there no real examination of the wage structure enforced by wenker which has seen us unable to offload much of the shite he has bought in recent seasons ? Why dont the hacks question wengers inability to motivate his players against bradford,blackburn,norwich,villa,swansea etc ?
The man is getting away with murder as far as I am concerned :x
Wouldn't you just love one fucking journalist to have the balls to stand up and ask him every one of those questions in a press conference?
It would be great but like him or not Wenger also sells papers- he's a rent a quote for anything from sports doping to finances. His grand delusions about mental strength and his own moral crusade (whilst stealing £7.5m a year from our club) against the "evils" of modern day sport make the life of the hacks so much easier.

I agree with augie that they could put his actual management under the microscope a lot more but he gives them so much bullshit to fill the columns that they let him away with it because as we all know there will be yet another calamity around the corner (at our expense) to fill the column inches.

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The arseblog k**b has suggested that wenger was 100% correct in his reactions in the press conference......I am embarassed that any Gooner could actually believe that :roll: :oops: :oops: :oops:

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augie wrote:The arseblog k**b has suggested that wenger was 100% correct in his reactions in the press conference......I am embarassed that any Gooner could actually believe that :roll: :oops: :oops: :oops:
To be fair to the blogger (who has his hand firmly in the Arsenal cookie jar), he meant Wenger was getting angry with the reporters regarding winding fans up with the Sun article about the 2 year extension. It is more or less what Wenger said during his spiel. He also said that if 'good information' came from nowhere, then he would be ok with it.

More or less saying that if lies were showing him in a positive light, then that is ok to lie in articles, but he takes issue when it is 'bad information from nowhere'.

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begeegs wrote:
augie wrote:The arseblog k**b has suggested that wenger was 100% correct in his reactions in the press conference......I am embarassed that any Gooner could actually believe that :roll: :oops: :oops: :oops:
To be fair to the blogger (who has his hand firmly in the Arsenal cookie jar), he meant Wenger was getting angry with the reporters regarding winding fans up with the Sun article about the 2 year extension. It is more or less what Wenger said during his spiel. He also said that if 'good information' came from nowhere, then he would be ok with it.

More or less saying that if lies were showing him in a positive light, then that is ok to lie in articles, but he takes issue when it is 'bad information from nowhere'.
Yep, the 2 year extension story was bollocks intended to wind up fans. Judging by the initial reactions (not just on here) it clearly worked.

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Cant see him wanting to stay at this club much longer. He is running out of excuses and the press are having fun. Another defeat tonight for the fans to enjoy.
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begeegs wrote:
augie wrote:The arseblog k**b has suggested that wenger was 100% correct in his reactions in the press conference......I am embarassed that any Gooner could actually believe that :roll: :oops: :oops: :oops:
To be fair to the blogger (who has his hand firmly in the Arsenal cookie jar), he meant Wenger was getting angry with the reporters regarding winding fans up with the Sun article about the 2 year extension. It is more or less what Wenger said during his spiel. He also said that if 'good information' came from nowhere, then he would be ok with it.

More or less saying that if lies were showing him in a positive light, then that is ok to lie in articles, but he takes issue when it is 'bad information from nowhere'.


So where was the criticism of the "why are you looking at me" tirade ? Or where was the rant about not answering questions about the blackburn game only to then refuse to talk about bayern ? What about the way the girl reporter was cut off 3 times by wenger as she tried to ask a question ?
As far as I am concerned, arseblog is just the same as redaction......gazidas and the club have their hands up their arses and are moving them about like the hand puppets they are :roll: If you are tied in with the club like that then you lose a large part of credibility imo

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im a rabid wob, but looking at AW in that press conference and on the touchline when we went 1 and now 2 nil down just now, i didnt feel anger, and felt a massive sadness at what has happened and how he has become, and i feel sorry for him. yes hes getting 7m a year so i have nothing to feel sorry for him about, but its so sad that a man who we all so respected, loved and trusted become what he has and be so tortued because of his own inability to fix things, indeed i used to look at him and think (not in the last 5 years though), it will be ok, arsene is in charge he can pull another iron out of the fire, however bad a game was going i trusted him to come up with something and he invarably did.

as silly as it is i saw him in the same way as like a trusted grandad when you were a little kid, you felt safe, and you felt safe with him in charge.

thats why i have realised literally just now how saddening this whole situation is, its like watching a loved relative slowly deteriate in illness and fade away in front of you. if only he could become the old arsene again or apadt and stop being so myopic.

i think we should all show him a bit more respect, even though i appreciate how he is taking the club down now

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Many of us feel that....But you need to remember he has had numerous, numerous opportunities to put all the problems right....only 6 weeks ago he gave Ramsey a 5 year deal on £55k a week......

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OneBardGooner wrote:Many of us feel that....But you need to remember he has had numerous, numerous opportunities to put all the problems right....only 6 weeks ago he gave Ramsey a 5 year deal on £55k a week......
To paraphase from Tony Adams' goal v Everton...."that sums it all up"

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i know i know, but i still feel sad. i want him to go cos he clearly has lost it. but i can still feel sorry for him, and saddened by it.

i know sid and others he is mentally ill, maybe as a slight against him, or if they are being serious, but i genuinely think there must be something wrong, to have become like this. surely its not all ego.

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Can't believe he didn't shake hands the fucking despicable cretin :evil:

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Why doesnt he fuck off and teach Economics somewhere :twisted:

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Al Green on 5 live has just said it smells like the end of an era is coming. Other commentator asked is there any point in Arsenal qualifying for the CL as they don't spend the money they receive anyway. Another point made was that even if they qualify for the knock out stages it means nothing as they usually lose in the last 16 anyway. Claridge then said things cannot go on they way they are. Commentators also said AW needs a new challenge. You do genuinely get the feeling that momentum is now building and he could very well go at the end of the season, although I think he will see his contract out until the summer of 2014, but then he will go.

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Sky sports news just said that AW failed to shake hands with the Munchen manager. No sympathy with Wenger - is it any wonder fans and the press give him such a hard time?

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Let us not get carried away here.
He thinks that his previous record, when we were all championing him, back in the day, is enough reason to remain.
His words were, I have spent 16 years in England, I deserve more respect. Says it all really.
He is a cheat. He cheats the Arsenal supporters and he cheats himself, but then, what does one expect from a philanderer?
No better than Chris Huhne or any other politician imo.
Footy has gone the way of the big bucks, and c unts like Wenger are a poison that the game can well do without. Unfortunately, his employer is a bigger c unt, and a bigger whore to the dollar.

RIP ARSENAL

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