As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
BTW despite the fact Kroenke wont care I'm convinced that more and even more shocking protests are needed .
Streakers on the Pitch Holding Wenger Out Placards ! Protests outside Mons Wengers,Gazidis ,Sir Chips ,Houses !
Also when Liverpool wanted Hicks n co out they made a very slick video ,we could do that too but you need to get celebs onside too.
I have others but they would place me under arrest for some of them !
This is for everyone;
Just in relation to this bit in red, and to avoid any uneccessary problems leading to bannings etc, please do not post Wenger's (or anyone else's) address on this forum. That is not acceptable under any circumstances.
It is not so much the "Arsene FC AKB nutters", it is more the fact than in a 60k stadium a good 99.9% won't do anything to get rid of Wenger or Kroenke even if they believe we should.
If they don't want to take sides fúck 'em, why worry about the fence sitters & tourists anyway, if you want Wonga out protest against him, if you want Kroenke out likewise.
Either protest will get my backing & support but please don't change the Wenger out protest to a Kroenke out campaign after the foundations have been laid.
Changing direction using the Wenger out campaign achievements so far would play right into the clubs bullshite agenda. It would let both the targets get away.
Exactly how I feel..exactly. As you say, we have laid the foundation and to change tack would look indecisive and it would let Wenger off the hook. NOTHING has changed so why should our agenda or our target?? Kroenke won't care if we go after him but relentless negative publicity surrounding Wenger might make him rethink his choice of manager. Might??
despite Wenger being there for now 21 years he is still easier to get rid of than Kroenke.
yes if you got rid of Kroenke then you would also get rid of Wenger as any new owner would sack him within weeks.
However I don't think you will get rid of Kroenke before Wenger.
Wenger has effectively been a shield for Kroenke these past few years. We need to remove that shield first (Wenger)
For that to happen things will have to get really really bad on the pitch though and that is where the problem is - Wenger like it or not is still a good enough manager to make sure that we are in and around the top 4, and as long as he does that then the Emirates crowd will remain apathetic.
not sure what the answer is really - you just have to realise that these days the majority of the people who visit the Emirates are not too bothered whether we compete for the league or not, and even those that are bothered will mostly not bother to protest.
despite Wenger being there for now 21 years he is still easier to get rid of than Kroenke.
yes if you got rid of Kroenke then you would also get rid of Wenger as any new owner would sack him within weeks.
However I don't think you will get rid of Kroenke before Wenger.
Wenger has effectively been a shield for Kroenke these past few years. We need to remove that shield first (Wenger)
For that to happen things will have to get really really bad on the pitch though and that is where the problem is - Wenger like it or not is still a good enough manager to make sure that we are in and around the top 4, and as long as he does that then the Emirates crowd will remain apathetic.
not sure what the answer is really - you just have to realise that these days the majority of the people who visit the Emirates are not too bothered whether we compete for the league or not, and even those that are bothered will mostly not bother to protest.
Not this year mate. IMO we'll be finishing mid-table with our current squad of players.
Our best player Sanchez wants out and is clearly unhappy, Ozil is disinterested after creating a thousand chances which our forwards are too shite to finish off, nobody from our midfield is good enough to chip in with a reasonable goals tally, our defence is leaky as a sieve, our keeper is past it, our manager is still trying to run the team on a shoestring.
We're nowhere near good enough this season, and with Liverpool and Chelsea away in two of our next three fixtures, we could very well be on just six points from our first five games, out of the title race by mid-September. Europa League trips to distant backwaters and Sunday fixtures won't help. Discontent will begin again, which will have a knock-on effect on a squad already mentally weak and disillusioned. The snowball will be bigger and quicker this time around, only this time there's no conveniently timed summer break to base club PR and spin around.