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olgitgooner wrote:
USMartin wrote:Whoops - I forgot to mention it's good to see you back olgit and that you're as much a prick as always. Cheers mate :D
Pot. Kettle. Black.

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Thats not nice or clever martin.

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mrgnu1958 wrote:
olgitgooner wrote:
USMartin wrote:Whoops - I forgot to mention it's good to see you back olgit and that you're as much a prick as always. Cheers mate :D
Pot. Kettle. Black.

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Thats not nice or clever martin.
NO its not - nor was it meant to be.

It was what it was, and I have no regret whatsoever. As far as I am concerned that is what he is and chooses to be and I have wasted enough energy on him now already other than to add he still should have been banned and he knows why.

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Now now kids - play nice.

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DB10GOONER wrote:Now now kids - play nice.
No worries - as I said above I've wasted all the energy I intend to on olgit

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Vince wrote:I don't think it's a matter of nationality, and I don't think it is right to make all the frenchmen scapegoats of Arsenal bad results.
But Diaby is not good enough and shouldn't be considered as first choice. I really hope Wenger started him because he wanted to rest Rosicky and Wilshere. Diaby and Eboué have no "football brain" and I think to play them in midfield was a mistake. Their shakiness has contaminated the rest of the team, and it was a very poor performance from the keeper to the striker, not only the player who have the handicap of being french.
;)
I think there are too many players lacking the 'football brain" or lacking a sufficently developed football brain in our squad at this point. I could add Denilson, Song, Almunia, Bendtner,(I know he's out he shows these same tendencies), Clichy, Fabianski, Djourou, all in the last few years and/or this year have shown this same lack of of footballing intelligence. That is pretty significant swath of the team in pretty significant roles in some cases who may be very skilled or talented but lack the undertanding of the game the put those talents to the best use for the team.

Think aboiut this - do you remember anybody in the team from 2002-2004 that genuinely had this problem? I know a lot of people thought this way of Kolo Toure at times, but anyone else who played with any regularity who didn't understand how to play their position within our team?

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USMartin wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:Now now kids - play nice.
No worries - as I said above I've wasted all the energy I intend to on olgit
A shame - olgit is actually quite a nice bloke by all accounts. :(

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DB10GOONER wrote:
USMartin wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:Now now kids - play nice.
No worries - as I said above I've wasted all the energy I intend to on olgit
A shame - olgit is actually quite a nice bloke by all accounts. :(
He may very well be when he doesn't let certain matters cloud his judgment or alter his behavior toward others, but he let matters cloud his judgment with me and that is all I can go on unfortuntately

He might have had the chance to realize the very same of me but in fact ny feelings about how he's treated me have altered my attitutde toward him so its understandable that he sees me now the same way I can;'t be too bothered about it as I wasn't the one who went out of my way to make it this way initially. That's on him.

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Just going back to Song, one of things that I would question is whether he is not doing his job properly, or whether he is and is playing as Wenger wants him too.

There are 3 in there so Fabregas' main responsibility now is be almost a supporting striker at times, at least further upfield than he used to be. The other 2 have responsibility to link play, supporting and defending between them.

It looks to me like no-one really has the express responsibility of just staying in a defensive position, because Song is so often caught upfield at the same time as the other midfielders, leaving us short on the break.

Song is more often the most defensive midfielder, but not in a disciplined " way. And I think this leaves us exposed, especially with some dodgy defending and shit keeping.

For what it's worth, I think we should really have enough in all other areas to not risk another man. However, the wide play that Barcelona's "full-backs" give them, allowing there creative player to play inside, is so often lacking in quality with us.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
USMartin wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:Now now kids - play nice.
No worries - as I said above I've wasted all the energy I intend to on olgit
A shame - olgit is actually quite a nice bloke by all accounts. :(
I am indeed quite a nice bloke! :D

And I'm delighted that USM will no longer be "wasting energy" on me. :roll: :D

Maybe that will be the end of all the silly name calling. So far on this forum he has referred to me as a prick, ass, asshole, twat, hypocrit, etc.

Now I personally laugh at such stupidity. But another person might get very upset at it. I think it falls under the catagory of abusive behaviour.

Martin called for me to be banned from here because I revealed that he was banned from another Arsenal forum, for exactly the same poor behaviour as he exhibits on here.

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MY last comment in your direction is this - the problem is that is NOT true - I can prove it and I fact have, and to try to portray otherwise shows you are a shameless liar when you choose to be and every name I aimed at you is in fact accurate and justified but your own cowardly dishonesty.

You are a waste of energy and time. You may be a decent bloke so long as you hear what you want to hear but as soon as you don't any hit of decency or integrity disappears.

You are in fact a prick when you don't get your qway. You don't like that? Than don't be that. It's own your fault that you are and nobody else's.

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USMartin wrote:MY last comment in your direction is this - the problem is that is NOT true - I can prove it and I fact have, and to try to portray otherwise shows you are a shameless liar when you choose to be and every name I aimed at you is in fact accurate and justified but your own cowardly dishonesty.

You are a waste of energy and time. You may be a decent bloke so long as you hear what you want to hear but as soon as you don't any hit of decency or integrity disappears.

You are in fact a prick when you don't get your qway. You don't like that? Than don't be that. It's own your fault that you are and nobody else's.
Is that aimed at Le Boss?

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USMartin wrote:MY last comment in your direction is this - the problem is that is NOT true - I can prove it and I fact have, and to try to portray otherwise shows you are a shameless liar when you choose to be and every name I aimed at you is in fact accurate and justified but your own cowardly dishonesty.

You are a waste of energy and time. You may be a decent bloke so long as you hear what you want to hear but as soon as you don't any hit of decency or integrity disappears.

You are in fact a prick when you don't get your qway. You don't like that? Than don't be that. It's own your fault that you are and nobody else's.
I sincerely hope that's your last bit of energy wasting. :lol:

How can you possibly claim you weren't banned :?

You want me to do a link to the page on which the forum owner said that people were banned for bad behaviour and specifically named you (and only you)?

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marcengels wrote:Just going back to Song, one of things that I would question is whether he is not doing his job properly, or whether he is and is playing as Wenger wants him too.

There are 3 in there so Fabregas' main responsibility now is be almost a supporting striker at times, at least further upfield than he used to be. The other 2 have responsibility to link play, supporting and defending between them.

It looks to me like no-one really has the express responsibility of just staying in a defensive position, because Song is so often caught upfield at the same time as the other midfielders, leaving us short on the break.

Song is more often the most defensive midfielder, but not in a disciplined " way. And I think this leaves us exposed, especially with some dodgy defending and shit keeping.

For what it's worth, I think we should really have enough in all other areas to not risk another man. However, the wide play that Barcelona's "full-backs" give them, allowing there creative player to play inside, is so often lacking in quality with us.
You posted this in the Song thread too! Is it THAT inciteful??!! :lol: :wink:

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arsene-'the players will be focused'

players turn up thinking they have the game won,same as hull 2 years ago

nothings changed,nothing ever will with this mob.

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Lethal wrote:arsene-'the players will be focused'

players turn up thinking they have the game won,same as hull 2 years ago

nothings changed,nothing ever will with this mob.
It does feel like we are going in circles at the moment.

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