I would agree with the fact that Blackpool would see success as staying in the premiership but ultimately success is winning a trophy. Would you consider Blackpool a succesful club if they stayed in the PL for 2 seasons in a row or if they won the league two years in a row.1989 wrote:Sorry for not replying to you Deise.
I think different clubs/people have different definitions of success. For us it's obviously not been trophies for the last few years, as confirmed by Wenger and Hill Wood's comments recently. Whereas a club like Blackpool for example would view success as just staying up in the league for another season.
I'm sure Kroenke's definition of success is much closer to what the supporters want.
Board Sells - Kroenke Takes Control Of Club!!
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Tee Cee I realise you spend most of your time fantasising about gay sex to have any grasp of macro economics but whether Kroenke debt leverages the Club once acquiring 75 percent or borrows against his assets which include Arsenal football club the effect is the same .
Even a bear with very little brain like yourself, and mr cut n paste 1989 should be able to understand this .
The New Owner having paid top dollar owner to the shysters on the board will squeeze the last drop of revenue from it to service the debt and make money, unless you believe the man to have Philanthropic intentions towards the Arsenal ???? His pet love is basketball not football,do you think he will start waving the cheque book ???
What will happen?????? In the end none of us know except of course he will get rid of ticketmaster which we all secretly admit has been heavily playing on our minds as this situation unfolds.
My biggest fear is that we have groundhog day for the next 20 years as we have had since 2006 !
Even a bear with very little brain like yourself, and mr cut n paste 1989 should be able to understand this .
The New Owner having paid top dollar owner to the shysters on the board will squeeze the last drop of revenue from it to service the debt and make money, unless you believe the man to have Philanthropic intentions towards the Arsenal ???? His pet love is basketball not football,do you think he will start waving the cheque book ???
What will happen?????? In the end none of us know except of course he will get rid of ticketmaster which we all secretly admit has been heavily playing on our minds as this situation unfolds.
My biggest fear is that we have groundhog day for the next 20 years as we have had since 2006 !
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Another cut and paste article,are you incapable of independent thought 1989 ?1989 wrote:Kroenke vows to bring trophies back to Arsenal as he mounts full takeover bid for club
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/dc ... story.html
With the price he has paid he will have precious little to re-invest into the club but in 5 years who knows ,he could buy Wembley from the FA at a knockdown price and move us into a larger stadium ,selling Ashburton road to the property developers !
Franchises can be moved u know !
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Anyone who's worried about the current board staying in place, it's highly unlikely that he's gonna spend millions of his (or the banks) money to leave the same people in charge. He'll want to put his own stamp on the club.
Herd, what are you basing your fears that we are going to be burdened with more debt from? He's never done it before and he needs 75% to do it. Usmanov does not look like selling!
Herd, what are you basing your fears that we are going to be burdened with more debt from? He's never done it before and he needs 75% to do it. Usmanov does not look like selling!
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Kroenke may not of debt Leveraged the things he owns but he sure as hell owes the banks a lot of money and will owe them a lot more if he buys Arsenal. Debts have to be serviced and his assets are bound to be collateral against the loan. With his connections he wont have to issue high interest Bonds perhaps but he will still be carrying a lot of debt with him.Arsenal 1991 wrote:Anyone who's worried about the current board staying in place, it's highly unlikely that he's gonna spend millions of his (or the banks) money to leave the same people in charge. He'll want to put his own stamp on the club.
Herd, what are you basing your fears that we are going to be burdened with more debt from? He's never done it before and he needs 75% to do it. Usmanov does not look like selling!
In the rich listings they mention his assets but not his liabilities.
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Re: Korenke
As with most things we'll just have to wait and see. Apparently he could've used the clubs own assets to pay for the takeover but he hasn't. The biggest thing I'm worried about is if he takes dividends out of the club. We can't do anything about it and that's scary.Herd wrote:Kroenke may not of debt Leveraged the things he owns but he sure as hell owes the banks a lot of money and will owe them a lot more if he buys Arsenal. Debts have to be serviced and his assets are bound to be collateral against the loan. With his connections he wont have to issue high interest Bonds perhaps but he will still be carrying a lot of debt with him.Arsenal 1991 wrote:Anyone who's worried about the current board staying in place, it's highly unlikely that he's gonna spend millions of his (or the banks) money to leave the same people in charge. He'll want to put his own stamp on the club.
Herd, what are you basing your fears that we are going to be burdened with more debt from? He's never done it before and he needs 75% to do it. Usmanov does not look like selling!
In the rich listings they mention his assets but not his liabilities.
I'm excited about him increasing commercial revenues, it he does it right we'll have as much money, if not more than united and money to properly compete with anybody.
I also hope he throws that *word censored* hill wood and the rest of them out on their arses. If not I'll start a new protest group!


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Re: Korenke
As with most things we'll just have to wait and see. Apparently he could've used the clubs own assets to pay for the takeover but he hasn't. The biggest thing I'm worried about is if he takes dividends out of the club. We can't do anything about it and that's scary.Herd wrote:Kroenke may not of debt Leveraged the things he owns but he sure as hell owes the banks a lot of money and will owe them a lot more if he buys Arsenal. Debts have to be serviced and his assets are bound to be collateral against the loan. With his connections he wont have to issue high interest Bonds perhaps but he will still be carrying a lot of debt with him.Arsenal 1991 wrote:Anyone who's worried about the current board staying in place, it's highly unlikely that he's gonna spend millions of his (or the banks) money to leave the same people in charge. He'll want to put his own stamp on the club.
Herd, what are you basing your fears that we are going to be burdened with more debt from? He's never done it before and he needs 75% to do it. Usmanov does not look like selling!
In the rich listings they mention his assets but not his liabilities.
I'm excited about him increasing commercial revenues, it he does it right we'll have as much money, if not more than united and money to properly compete with anybody.
I also hope he throws that *word censored* hill wood and the rest of them out on their arses. If not I'll start a new protest group!


Re: Kroenke
Hillwoods shares had a caveat or covenant meaning he couldn't be unseated during his lifetime ,its the only reason Dein kept him around . I am sure Stan will not want this millstone around his neck so i can see him getting eased out but that's mere speculation.I'm excited about him increasing commercial revenues, it he does it right we'll have as much money, if not more than united and money to properly compete with anybody.
I also hope he throws that c**t hill wood and the rest of them out on their arses. If not I'll start a new protest group!![]()
He thinks there is Big money in maximising worldwide TV revenues and increasing the global brand but beware that he simply doesn't move us to Wembley and sell ashburton !
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