Canaries V (what proved to be) the Arsenal light-weights

[northbank123]

Holding that shot would have been nothing more than I'd expect from a competent PL keeper. To push a shot from well outside the box that was essentially straight at him back out into the middle of the goalmouth was fucking dreadful, no two ways about it.

[bang goes the 0-0 draw]

Holding that shot would have been nothing more than I'd expect from a competent PL keeper. To push a shot from well outside the box that was essentially straight at him back out into the middle of the goalmouth was fucking dreadful, no two ways about it.

Totally agree. If he had pushed it down the line ( which seems easier than knocking it back in the middle) I could forgive. I think it was Barnes as well that said at half time that normally a goalkeeper would be further off his line to cover the angles and when I look it again he does seem to be just standing on his line. Now I don't know much about goalkeeping but seems an interesting point

[officepest]

Holding that shot would have been nothing more than I'd expect from a competent PL keeper. To push a shot from well outside the box that was essentially straight at him back out into the middle of the goalmouth was fucking dreadful, no two ways about it.

Totally agree. If he had pushed it down the line ( which seems easier than knocking it back in the middle) I could forgive. I think it was Barnes as well that said at half time that normally a goalkeeper would be further off his line to cover the angles and when I look it again he does seem to be just standing on his line. Now I don't know much about goalkeeping but seems an interesting point

Correct. Speaking as a part time goalie, it's all about the angles. Even if you are a shit keeper just watch Neville Southall in his (not quite as fat) pomp - basic geometry can really improve one's game. Sadly Vito is both shit and quite clearly poorly coached.

[QuartzGooner]

not watched highlights - was Holt offside? looks it on the vid above...
and the Gnabry slipped in through ball for Gervinho looked great live, did he take forever to shoot (what it felt like live) or was it just good defending to close him and block the shot...?

Cannot be sure about Holt but no use crying over spilt milk.

Gnabry very good pass, Gervinho was blocked by good defending.

In retrospect there were reasons why we lost:

Injuries to:

Szczesny
Sagna
Gibbs
Koscielny
Wilshere
Frimpong
Diaby
Rosicky
Walcott

Ramsey just is not the right fit for central midfield
Podolski is below par with an ankle knock
Santos is not really what we need at left back


But in the summer I was one of those on here hoping we would buy

A striker
A left back

before the transfer window closed.

Failure to do both has cost us.

For those wanting Walcott to be sold, even when he has a poor game, he still offers pace and the willingness to shoot.
When Gervinho is off his game he offers nothing of any note.
Like G88ner said, it is the cost of Gervinho that has bothered many of us. If hehad come for £1M then people would accept him for what he is.
But with Oxlade-Chamberlain looking a good prospect, though still inconsistent, and Eisfeld and Gnabry pushing for places, it is the transfer fee of Gervinho that bothers me.
Especially as we had a better player in Benayoun who though physically light weight (though actually if he was a boxer he would be a light-middleweight) would have been better to retain for another year with his consistent work rate, invention and knack for the odd goal.

[UTU The Arsenal]

Its Bad enough for Norwich fans to sing 'Van Persie left cos he thinks Your sh*t, but to go a lose to the carrott crunchers is F*cked UP

Different Day Same Bullsh*t has been going for 7 years

Nothing will change over The Arsenal because fans pay for and accept this Nonsense, £ 50.00 to watch that rubbish and they will go back for more

The Cult of Wenger and the Culture of Profit first has turned The Arsenal into a 'Has Been' Team.

I

[Glitch33]

Holding that shot would have been nothing more than I'd expect from a competent PL keeper. To push a shot from well outside the box that was essentially straight at him back out into the middle of the goalmouth was fucking dreadful, no two ways about it.

Totally agree. If he had pushed it down the line ( which seems easier than knocking it back in the middle) I could forgive. I think it was Barnes as well that said at half time that normally a goalkeeper would be further off his line to cover the angles and when I look it again he does seem to be just standing on his line. Now I don't know much about goalkeeping but seems an interesting point

Looking at it again he clearly misjudged the distance of the ball away from him. His left hand was way past the ball and it came off his right. Impossible to hold on to and little chance to push it to the left with his right hand.

[northbank123]

Holding that shot would have been nothing more than I'd expect from a competent PL keeper. To push a shot from well outside the box that was essentially straight at him back out into the middle of the goalmouth was fucking dreadful, no two ways about it.

Totally agree. If he had pushed it down the line ( which seems easier than knocking it back in the middle) I could forgive. I think it was Barnes as well that said at half time that normally a goalkeeper would be further off his line to cover the angles and when I look it again he does seem to be just standing on his line. Now I don't know much about goalkeeping but seems an interesting point

Looking at it again he clearly misjudged the distance of the ball away from him. His left hand was way past the ball and it came off his right. Impossible to hold on to and little chance to push it to the left with his right hand.

Last time he had a run in the side he cost us by doing exactly the same thing at West Ham: dived past a free-kick from Diamante and palmed it straight out into the danger zone. It's goalkeeping fundamentals.

[LewisT92]

There really shouldn't be any debate whether Vito should of held on to the ball, or what was more easy to do, parry away from danger. This is the EPL, I genuinely can't believe what I saw. If I made a mistake like that on a Saturday, wow...

The shot should have never got to him that easy, two or three players had to close the norwich player down, but it did and as a goalkeeper you have to anticipate that the shot is coming to you. In my opinion this is where he has be caught out and is why his body shape and approach to addressing the shot was totally wrong. He has parried the shot inwards ffs!

Seriously what is Garry Peyton doing on the training ground? But then what do you expect when the fucking manager doesn't feel the need to invest in this area. Joke.

[franksav63]

There really shouldn't be any debate whether Vito should of held on to the ball, or what was more easy to do, parry away from danger. This is the EPL, I genuinely can't believe what I saw. If I made a mistake like that on a Saturday, wow...

The shot should have never got to him that easy, two or three players had to close the norwich player down, but it did and as a goalkeeper you have to anticipate that the shot is coming to you. In my opinion this is where he has be caught out and is why his body shape and approach to addressing the shot was totally wrong. He has parried the shot inwards ffs!

Seriously what is Garry Peyton doing on the training ground? But then what do you expect when the fucking manager doesn't feel the need to invest in this area. Joke.

Their goal really was a catalogue of errors, from the non-existence closing down of the shot, our Fat arsed left back, playing Holt onside, the parry back into play from the big nosed useless wanker, only one of our players coming back in with Holt, then the BNW seems to bounce backwards away from Holt's shot into goal as though he's frightened to dive in at Holt's feet... Hmmm...

[flash gunner]

armchair says: excuses in early??? did you even read the rest of the post?
I list, what I see as, Wengers keys failings. There are several, many based on discounting the opposition.

in this case I think we can afford to (and should) discount the opposition
Norwich are poo. They may attack, may try and defend deep or hold a high line.
Who cares? Batter them. Losing to them IMO would be inexcusable for the players WHATEVER the manager did
I dont think if we lose Wenger has specifically "fucked it up".

He has assembled a group of players with sufficient quality that if every coach at the club is kidnapped by aliens tonight
they should still win on Saturday

[StuartL]

A good pre match sing song at the Angler ruined by a shit game.

We were pathetic, didn't attack with any purpose or threat.

When will Wenker learn that slow, sideways passing with no forward movement from the wide men is so easy to defend.

The highlight of the afternoon for me was after Holt was subbed, he pushed the BFG virtually upfront and we resorted to lumping it - a tactical masterstroke.

Norwich outplayed us, outfought us, and deserved their victory, and we didn't even go down fighting.

Embarrasing.

Oh and £50 for a ticket made it even harder to swallow.

[DarylAFC]

A good pre match sing song at the Angler ruined by a shit game.

We were pathetic, didn't attack with any purpose or threat.

When will Wenker learn that slow, sideways passing with no forward movement from the wide men is so easy to defend.

The highlight of the afternoon for me was after Holt was subbed, he pushed the BFG virtually upfront and we resorted to lumping it - a tactical masterstroke.

Norwich outplayed us, outfought us, and deserved their victory, and we didn't even go down fighting.

Embarrasing.

Oh and £50 for a ticket made it even harder to swallow.

If the team showed have as much enthusiasm as we did in the pub we would've won 4-0

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

We are now only 3 POINTS above Liverpool. The jaded, weakened Liverpool. Those 3 points are from the game we beat them, but other than that we are just as shitty as they are. And just think, 4 weeks ago people were creaming their pants absolutely SURE we were going to beat Chelsea at home.

[1989]

Heard they FLEW to Norwich.

Incredible. How fucking spoiled can these useless, pampered, nonchalant, non-caring pricks get?

Fucking hate what has become of this club.

[QuartzGooner]

I have no problem with them flying to Norwich.
The trains were messed up, and it is not the easiest of journeys by road from London.