As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
DB10GOONER wrote:I can't believe anyone is writing Ozil off after what - a bit over half a season??!! FFS. Did any of these people see Pires and Henry when they first signed? Some players take longer to adapt to the PL than others. All of the possible reasons behind his loss of form are listed on this thread and also most of the possible cures so I'm not going to bother my arse repeating them. But to write off a world class player that cut the mustard with Real Madrid is just silly.
I kind of agree DB but he was in a league that was as two horsed as the scottish one and the majority of games would be roll overs and little effort required.
The pl doesn't offers very few (if any) of these types of matches so it could be that he just doesn't have the fight in him for this league.
Or he just needs to strengthen a bit in the summer.
Or he misses the warmer climate.
Or the kebabs over here just aren't up to scratch.
Or he misses Theo who he could release with his eye for a pass and theo's pace to get onto said passes.
Anyhow, you could see it affected him badly after that shit penno but he's 25 not 18 (in 3-4 YEARS time he will start to decline ffs), man the fuck up and atone for your mistake, he's paid a kings ransom to be professional so be fuckin professional (oh yeah and if he steps up to take a penno again I want per to go over to him and offer him some friendly advice, then twat him on the snotter and take the ball away form him and give it to someone else, any fucker else in fact ).
I am sure he will be better next season.....
Also kind of agree with most of your points Lefty. And it is possible that he won't adapt to the PL at all for whatever reason. But while I agree the Spanish league is piss he still had to compete with other top RM players to get in the team. Also, initially he looked awesome so there is no denying he was able to cut it in the PL for a certain period of time. Maybe it is the pace and physicality catching up with him. Or maybe he is just too lazy for the hustle and bustle. Either way, he is a classy player and I feel (hope) we might see the best of him for a greater amount of time next season. Maybe.
DB10GOONER wrote:I can't believe anyone is writing Ozil off after what - a bit over half a season??!! FFS. Did any of these people see Pires and Henry when they first signed? Some players take longer to adapt to the PL than others. All of the possible reasons behind his loss of form are listed on this thread and also most of the possible cures so I'm not going to bother my arse repeating them. But to write off a world class player that cut the mustard with Real Madrid is just silly.
I kind of agree DB but he was in a league that was as two horsed as the scottish one and the majority of games would be roll overs and little effort required.
The pl doesn't offers very few (if any) of these types of matches so it could be that he just doesn't have the fight in him for this league.
Or he just needs to strengthen a bit in the summer.
Or he misses the warmer climate.
Or the kebabs over here just aren't up to scratch.
Or he misses Theo who he could release with his eye for a pass and theo's pace to get onto said passes.
Anyhow, you could see it affected him badly after that shit penno but he's 25 not 18 (in 3-4 YEARS time he will start to decline ffs), man the fuck up and atone for your mistake, he's paid a kings ransom to be professional so be fuckin professional (oh yeah and if he steps up to take a penno again I want per to go over to him and offer him some friendly advice, then twat him on the snotter and take the ball away form him and give it to someone else, any fucker else in fact ).
I am sure he will be better next season.....
Also kind of agree with most of your points Lefty. And it is possible that he won't adapt to the PL at all for whatever reason. But while I agree the Spanish league is piss he still had to compete with other top RM players to get in the team. Also, initially he looked awesome so there is no denying he was able to cut it in the PL for a certain period of time. Maybe it is the pace and physicality catching up with him. Or maybe he is just too lazy for the hustle and bustle. Either way, he is a classy player and I feel (hope) we might see the best of him for a greater amount of time next season. Maybe.
There are too many classics from Stuart Pearce in that article to mention, so instead I shall simply comment on the awesomeness of those socks in that seasons kit
Rugby Gooner wrote:How to solve the Ozil problem?, cut our loses and sell him in the summer.I notice that the Club,(via people like Podolski),are beginning to suggest that his lack of performance is OUR fault for critisising him-bless.
Ozil is the new Asharvin-GET RID!!!
Rugby Gooner wrote:How to solve the Ozil problem?, cut our loses and sell him in the summer.I notice that the Club,(via people like Podolski),are beginning to suggest that his lack of performance is OUR fault for critisising him-bless.
Ozil is the new Asharvin-GET RID!!!
Mate. Don't end up sounding like Stuart Pearce.
Pearce. What a dildo.
Pearce "I would have taken Stan Collymore ahead of Bergkamp"
The only place I'd take Stan Collymore ahead of Dennis Bergkamp would be a secluded car park at night time. And even then given a chance I bet Bergkamp would transform the art of dogging with technique and vision never seen before in a clapped-out steamed-up Vauxhall Astra.
clockender1 wrote:Pearce wasn't alone - remember sugar ? - "Bergkamp will do nothing at Arsenal"....
and now Bergkamp has more League Titles than the spuds
Platt to be fair, did struggle abit - though i remember one header and one looping volley from him, but he wasn't the player he was in Italia '90.
Sugar did his best to outdo himself by smugly predicting at the time the first iPod was launched that they wouldn't even be on the market come Christmas time.
Platt's winner against United at home 97/98 was worth the fee alone!
clockender1 wrote:Pearce wasn't alone - remember sugar ? - "Bergkamp will do nothing at Arsenal"....
and now Bergkamp has more League Titles than the spuds
Platt to be fair, did struggle abit - though i remember one header and one looping volley from him, but he wasn't the player he was in Italia '90.
Sugar did his best to outdo himself by smugly predicting at the time the first iPod was launched that they wouldn't even be on the market come Christmas time.
Platt's winner against United at home 97/98 was worth the fee alone!
clockender1 wrote:Pearce wasn't alone - remember sugar ? - "Bergkamp will do nothing at Arsenal"....
and now Bergkamp has more League Titles than the spuds
Platt to be fair, did struggle abit - though i remember one header and one looping volley from him, but he wasn't the player he was in Italia '90.
Sugar did his best to outdo himself by smugly predicting at the time the first iPod was launched that they wouldn't even be on the market come Christmas time.
Platt's winner against United at home 97/98 was worth the fee alone!
That was one of my first games. We flew out of the blocks with Anelka scoring and a superb Vieira strike before that smug prick Sheringham scored twice and celebrated in front of the North Bank.
Top header. Had we not won after such a great start it would have been a bitter blow but winning that game gave us bags of confidence to kick on that season.
clockender1 wrote:Pearce wasn't alone - remember sugar ? - "Bergkamp will do nothing at Arsenal"....
and now Bergkamp has more League Titles than the spuds
Platt to be fair, did struggle abit - though i remember one header and one looping volley from him, but he wasn't the player he was in Italia '90.
Sugar did his best to outdo himself by smugly predicting at the time the first iPod was launched that they wouldn't even be on the market come Christmas time.
Platt's winner against United at home 97/98 was worth the fee alone!
That was one of my first games. We flew out of the blocks with Anelka scoring and a superb Vieira strike before that smug prick Sheringham scored twice and celebrated in front of the North Bank.
Top header. Had we not won after such a great start it would have been a bitter blow but winning that game gave us bags of confidence to kick on that season.
yup that was the header i remember. don't remember who the volley was against but it looped over and stayed in the air forever.
he worked hard though Platt - played CM if i remember right.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and yep the article from Pearce has shown him to be a fool,
but it wasn't so long ago, people on here, other forums and the media, said get rid of Ramsey he is shit and will never have a career at the Arsenal. But before his injury this season he was the darling of Arsenal, due to some top performances
Ozil needs time, ffs juding a bloke so early on in to his Arsenal career is plain silly
Whilst a lot of what was said about Ramsey seems foolish now his case is a bit different. For about 2 years after returning from injury he was poor at best with a few mediocre months at the back end of last season and looked well out of his depth on the pitch and in his head. The general consensus was that sadly and probably owing to his injury it seems like he'll never cut it at the top level or fulfil his potential.
Don't think anybody could have predicted such a drastic turnaround at the start of this season and I can't remember anything even nearly on the same scale.
Bergkamp was being comprehensively written off by some after a few games in the country with a lot of assumptions based on his career abroad, in a time where foreign football was watched far far less than it is now.
pearce is a complete twat, as someone pointed out hes just some ingerlund wanker who has always come up short and cost us italia 90. bottle job brainless thug. is it any wonder england have a crisis of players with him being in charge of the u21s for years.
ramsey, dont count the chickens yet, sure he was outstanding before injury this season but whats that a 3rd of a season? hardly suggests hes made it and justified AW's faith. YET.
as for platt one of the most underrated signing made by the club. boosted the fans having the england captain sign and did a lot of hard work and added another leaders mentality to the side.
FFS.
Did any of these people see Pires and Henry when they first signed? Some players take longer to adapt to the PL than others. All of the possible reasons behind his loss of form are listed on this thread and also most of the possible cures so I'm not going to bother my arse repeating them. But to write off a world class player that cut the mustard with Real Madrid is just silly.
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