Your choice as manager/Arteta Merged thread

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Who Do YOU Want As Next Arsenal Manager

Ancelotti
27
21%
Tuchel
1
1%
Allegri
62
49%
PV4
7
6%
Enrique
3
2%
Jardim
6
5%
Nagelsmann
1
1%
Rodgers
1
1%
Arteta
4
3%
Others
15
12%
 
Total votes: 127

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DB10GOONER
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A11M11 wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:23 pm
The next manager will have to be prepared to work on a restricted budget because that's the way KSE works. So it's unlikely that a high reputation candidate will come. We need a motivator. PV4 did it on the pitch. The board claim that they bought Wenger from obscurity, chances are they will do it again.
Dein brought Wenger from obscurity after months years of football conversations that convinced Dein that Wenger had a genuine vision for Arsenal on the pitch. Would you trust these current fuckwits to get this right?

I think PV4 would be a mistake but if it is him then I'll wholeheartedly support him until he proves he is the wrong man.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:05 am
A good coach can coach discipline and a system into any player. GG built superbly effective winning sides half populated with quite average players that he drilled discipline and systems into. Ramsey under Coleman is a totally different player for Wales than he is under Wenger for Arsenal. What a coach cannot do is turn an average or poor player into a world beater but they can certainly drill football discipline into any player to make them an effective cog in the overall team.

That night at Anfield was the greatest moment of my fifty years supporting Arsenal, but how many of that team would get into an 'all-time' Arsenal team?

TA6, though at that time he was young, definitely.

Dixon, O'Leary and Rocky deserve to be in the conversation, but none would be in my team.

Yet they were coached, motivated and organised into a superb unit, something that has been woefully lacking from our glorious leader.

I'm sure that the right coach could significantly improve our players and our tactics.

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GranadaJoe wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:33 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:05 am
A good coach can coach discipline and a system into any player. GG built superbly effective winning sides half populated with quite average players that he drilled discipline and systems into. Ramsey under Coleman is a totally different player for Wales than he is under Wenger for Arsenal. What a coach cannot do is turn an average or poor player into a world beater but they can certainly drill football discipline into any player to make them an effective cog in the overall team.

That night at Anfield was the greatest moment of my fifty years supporting Arsenal, but how many of that team would get into an 'all-time' Arsenal team?

TA6, though at that time he was young, definitely.

Dixon, O'Leary and Rocky deserve to be in the conversation, but none would be in my team.

Yet they were coached, motivated and organised into a superb unit, something that has been woefully lacking from our glorious leader.

I'm sure that the right coach could significantly improve our players and our tactics.
Amen. 8)

Richardson, Hayes, Groves... none were world class but all effective under a superb tactically pragmatic manager like GG.

That night at Anfield George went 5–4–1 with an ageing O'Leary as sweeper even though we hardly ever played that way. He saw that an experienced "old head" sweeper would let Dicko and Nutty push forward and limit Liverpool's often devestating attacks down both wings. George knew alright. 8)

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Jock Gooner wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:35 pm
herbert wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:08 pm
Who ever comes in needs to hit the ground running or the banners and light show will begin :box:
WE WANT OUR WENGER BACK

To be honest I am a bit unsure if I can continue to support the Arsenal I will have to wait to see where Arsene goes before I make up my mind but I voted for Allegri With pep .Maureen and Klopp in town its going to need someone who is managing or has managed one of the European elite,its not the time for PV4 or Arteta and some of the others on that list

Conte would also fit the bill
I'm pretty sure there will not be a clamour for TOF to return. Certainly no lights or banners :shock:

Have you got a get out clause in your Arsenal Fan contract or should I say Arsene Fan contract? Interesting :rubchin:
:lol: It was a joke followed by a bit of sarcasm ,I love Arsene but I love Arsenal just a little bit more :barscarf:

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:44 pm
GranadaJoe wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:33 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:05 am
A good coach can coach discipline and a system into any player. GG built superbly effective winning sides half populated with quite average players that he drilled discipline and systems into. Ramsey under Coleman is a totally different player for Wales than he is under Wenger for Arsenal. What a coach cannot do is turn an average or poor player into a world beater but they can certainly drill football discipline into any player to make them an effective cog in the overall team.

That night at Anfield was the greatest moment of my fifty years supporting Arsenal, but how many of that team would get into an 'all-time' Arsenal team?

TA6, though at that time he was young, definitely.

Dixon, O'Leary and Rocky deserve to be in the conversation, but none would be in my team.

Yet they were coached, motivated and organised into a superb unit, something that has been woefully lacking from our glorious leader.

I'm sure that the right coach could significantly improve our players and our tactics.
Amen. 8)

Richardson, Hayes, Groves... none were world class but all effective under a superb tactically pragmatic manager like GG.

That night at Anfield George went 5–4–1 with an ageing O'Leary as sweeper even though we hardly ever played that way. He saw that an experienced "old head" sweeper would let Dicko and Nutty push forward and limit Liverpool's often devestating attacks down both wings. George knew alright. 8)


In any sport, or organisation of any type, the best managers create teams that are more than the sum of their parts. I’m not even sure that Wenger managed this during his first few years, I think the constituent “parts” were good enough to work it out for themselves more often than not. However, you can’t get away with that in Europe and our lack of coaching and tactical drilling saw us underachieve badly in the CL, even with that top side.
Over the last 10-12 years, we’ve seen the absolute reverse of the notion, a team that was considerably less than the sum of its parts and with the quality of those parts on an ever declining spiral, there was no hope of them working things out themselves.
This current squad is incapable of competing for the top prizes, no matter who takes charge, but a coach instilling discipline, sound tactics, organisation and with the leadership qualities to motivate, could get our current shower above 6th place and 30 odd points off the leaders.

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Wellllll! we've had Satan's no2 in charge for 22 years...why not try the real thing!??

:D

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Hasn't taken Enrique long to assess the quality of our squad :oops: :oops:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... -safe-axe/

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Sky Bet now has arteta's odds of becoming the next manager drifting out, while allegri's odds have now been shortened to 4/1 :barscarf: :barscarf:

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Buying alderweld and wanyama, and recruiting a quality manager would be a great start to the summer (I wish :cry: :cry: )

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -170m.html

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after last night's defensive masterclass Simeone is THE ONLY manager that we should be considering.

pay him what he wants.

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I want to see Allegri as he is the man to get everything out from this squad tactically. I'd love Simeoni also but I guess he's too rough to this board to handle.

What I fear is that there will be power lift from one to another (Wenga to Ivan) and we hire some no mark prospect like Arteta etc. There are proven winners out there so fucking go for it. With that money we paid to Wengaman we can get anyone we like.

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Allegri is the one.

Master Tactician.
Defensive Solidity.
Winner's Mentality.
Physical Toughness.
Great Football.

8)

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augie wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:55 pm
Hasn't taken Enrique long to assess the quality of our squad :oops: :oops:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... -safe-axe/
Indeed, in fact this will be very interesting because that transfer kitty demand would effectively rule him out of the job!

Or would it? :rubchin: Surely somebody like Sanllehi hasn't come to do a job at Arsenal hamstrung by a two bob budget. Why would he put his professional career on the line as part of the overhaul of staff at our place if he hasn't been assured that there will be money to have a go at sorting out the team. I know, I know but you have to wonder. Interesting times ahead :?

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that's NET 50m chaps.

we must be able to move on the dross for a total of 30 million. hopefully to wengers new club :lol:

I'd settle for one CB and a DM this summer, I think we could get those for 80m.


I did hear though that the price for diminutive midfielders has crashed since Wonga got fired. no market for them anymore.

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clockender1 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:03 pm
that's NET 50m chaps.

we must be able to move on the dross for a total of 30 million. hopefully to wengers new club :lol:

I'd settle for one CB and a DM this summer, I think we could get those for 80m.


I did hear though that the price for diminutive midfielders has crashed since Wonga got fired. no market for them anymore.



No keeper ???? :shock: :shock: :shock:

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