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I’m fairly stunned after watching that MOTD analysis.
Lineker and the 2 pundits all agreeing that it should never have been a penalty.
Lineker even made the perfect comment - “why now?”
Maybe Arteta is doing the right thing in concentrating on the CL - because the PL is clearly not a level playing field.
You have to also ask what is the point of VAR? Surely it was brought in to make these decisions correct. I would love to hear the VAR audio, but I can’t see how it can ever be released.
It will get shown in a month's time in that stage-managed shit where that bald cûnt Webb is asked to explain the decisions by some fucking idiot like Michael I'm a cûnt Owen or that one who is an imbecile and played for Everton Donny Osmond or whatever his fucking name is. Bald cûnt is never properly questioned and has no accountability whatsoever. Also, has a month to come up with whatever fucking excuse he can think of to cover up the cheating.
I watched a few minutes of the version that the sweaty socks have of it after the VAR nonsense with that Rangers-Celtic penalty decision the other week and was amazed at how honest and critical the head of reffing was. Basically saying that the two cûnts on VAR didn't know the rules of the game and weren't focused enough. None of this covering it up bollox, just straight out saying it's not good enough.
Like I've always said, it's a fucking easy job doing it in the Premier League with all the fucking cameras and equipment and communication tools. And they still fucking fuck it up because they aren't good enough at their jobs. Then they fucking whinge like cûnts the moment there is any pressure. Fuck off you gobby, prissy little cûnts. It's the poor blokes in the park on a Sunday morning getting abuse and attacked for 25 quid that have it hard because you fucking cûnts have made everyone fucking detest you. Fucking sack the fucking lot of them and bring in neutral refs from around Europe and north Africa to do the games. Nobody would miss the fat, lazy, corrupt fucking cûnts.
So the ref was saying Saliba DELIBERATELY jumped up to head butt the Brighton player???
This is a ridiculous penalty.....think they are just making it up as they go along.....never seen it before and likely never see it again
Then it should have been a red. Why wasn't it a red?
Either it's not a foul and then it's no pen or it's a deliberate headbutt and should be a red.
In any circumstance they got the decision wrong and didn't bother to take more than 3 seconds to get it right.
It was an outrageous penalty decision and it's becoming very difficult to deny that there's something sinister behind the decisions we've been getting. I've always leant on the side of incompetence with these things, but as Rodders says, you'd see these piss poor decisions affecting everyone and that doesn't seem to be the case. Two things:
1. I've said it before and augie has said it on this thread, but why do the club do fuck all about these travesties? How hard can it be to compile video evidence of our red cards, penalties against, VAR checks on every fucking goal and then evidence of the self same offences (in almost every game you watch) seeing no cards, fuck all VAR checks, as with the scousers yesterday etc etc. Send the video to the FA, the PL and the PGMOL and ask for a meeting to discuss the explanations. Tell them you'll send it to the media if they don't agree to the discussions. Whether it's corruption or incompetence, it needs to be exposed.
2. Am I right in saying that whenever players go up for a ball and there's a clash of heads, the ref stops the game for safety reasons and restarts it with a drop ball? I don't think I've seen a free kick awarded for a genuine clash of heads....I'm not including the odd time when someone charges in dangerously from the side and smashes into the opponent, in which case a yellow or red is awarded.
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I can fully get behind what is being asked about why aren't the Club Doing Something... Raising holy hell, using their contacts in the media etc to call out the PGMOL. But, we all remember when Arteta said the decision to allow the Choppers goal, even though it had clearly gone out of play...was a
"Disgrace"
Since then the PGMOL have Doubled Down on us:
Red cards for Trossard and Decca's and numerous incidents which Rodders has Highlighted very well.
What needs to be understood first and foremost; as I have said many times on here is that they PGMOL are a Law Unto Themselves, there is no Overseeing Body that can call them out on things or investigate them. They are (literally) a Cash Vending Machine which is why I did the Poll.
They have appointed their own people (*) to sit on the KMI (Key Match Incidents panel) to ensure that No One Rocks the/their Boat. The identity of the 7 panel members is now kept secret.
So any Club that call's them out is going to get Fucked Over time and time again, which is what's happening to Arsenal, so those who make decisions in the Club know they cannot stop it and that it is probably better to stay silent than to get Fucked up the Arris Till They Bleed.
When the Truth eventually comes out... God knows when maybe 3 years from now or 30 years from now when we are all pushing up Daisies The PGMOL will have been found to be Under the Control of a World-Wide Betting Syndicate... maybe run by one of the Eastern Countries purely for the reason to make huge amounts of Money and of course to know that whoever is Running the PGMOL that for a period in time they "Owned" the Premier League. Whether that is by Big, Regular payments in to off-shore accounts or by means of actual "Gifts" rather than Money, and / or by "Threats' in the same way that the Mafia run Italy and Sicily... and of course all the big cities in the USofA. And of course the Big Cities in the UK; be it Russian Mafia or Chinese Tongs etc.
The World Has Gone To Shit and this is just another aspect of the Utter Corruption that is now a Normal part of life everywhere.
(*)
The Key Match Incidents Panel have seven members in total and is an independent panel primarily made up of former players and coaches, alongside one representative from the EFL and another from PGMOL. The latter to ensure all decisions agree with what was pre-planned and decided.
Anthony Taylor was clearly unsure and delays only to blow his whistle after he saw Pedro’s reaction. What it makes it worse is VAR taking couple of seconds to give it the all clear, thus missing the crucial evidence that Saliba made contact with the ball before the player.
I’ve always found Taylor to be a bit volatile. He’s either on medication or taking some hard drugs. He reminds me of some squeaky clean director I worked with a couple of years ago who was caught stuffing his face with some white substance
Let me also add that the Brighton manager has the most punchable face of any manager in the league
An easily dislikeable character. His smug assurance that it was definitely a penalty was more like a wind up. Strikes me that he fancies himself as the new Mourinho.
Anthony Taylor was clearly unsure and delays only to blow his whistle after he saw Pedro’s reaction. What it makes it worse is VAR taking couple of seconds to give it the all clear, thus missing the crucial evidence that Saliba made contact with the ball before the player.
I’ve always found Taylor to be a bit volatile. He’s either on medication or taking some hard drugs. He reminds me of some squeaky clean director I worked with a couple of years ago who was caught stuffing his face with some white substance
dont think the contact is relevant....its a clash of heads...stop play....and assess injury....always been that way
these stupid fuckers running the game have now opened a can of worms with this one
worst decision in the game i have ever seen...disgrace
Anthony Taylor was clearly unsure and delays only to blow his whistle after he saw Pedro’s reaction. What it makes it worse is VAR taking couple of seconds to give it the all clear, thus missing the crucial evidence that Saliba made contact with the ball before the player.
I’ve always found Taylor to be a bit volatile. He’s either on medication or taking some hard drugs. He reminds me of some squeaky clean director I worked with a couple of years ago who was caught stuffing his face with some white substance
dont think the contact is relevant....its a clash of heads...stop play....and assess injury....always been that way
these stupid fuckers running the game have now opened a can of worms with this one
worst decision in the game i have ever seen...disgrace
Trouble is RA2, they won't have opened a can of worms. We thought they had with the Rice, Trossard and Saliba red cards, but they've willfully refused to issue cards for those offences since. Other clubs and their supporters don't give a damn, in fact they'll enjoy us being turned over by the refs/VAR, so there'll be no complaints, other than from us, if we never see the Saliba farce again.
As much as we dislike the decisions, we'd live more happily with them if they were applied to all teams consistently, but they aren't. The PGMOL are shameless and it's why the club have to cause a stink.
I reckon while he was said to be deliberating , Darren England on VAR was in his ear demanding a penalty. That's why there was no lengthy review because his mind was already made up.
Looking for some form of redemption ?
Referee Darren England will not officiate another Liverpool fixture this season. However, he will not be sacked and has received support from Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL) chief Howard Webb.
That's according to a recent report by The Telegraph. This decision comes in the wake of England's involvement in Liverpool's controversial 2-1 Premier League defeat against Tottenham Hotspur, where a goal by Luis Díaz was wrongly ruled out for offside.
Still it doesn't matter because the ball hit Saliba on the head rather than he headed it before the heads clashed. Apprently
I haven't read all the latest posts so apologies if someone already said it........head injuries have to go off the field after the injury for the compulsory 30 secs in case of concussion, so why was Pedro allowed to stay on the pitch to take the penalty??
I haven't read all the latest posts so apologies if someone already said it........head injuries have to go off the field after the injury for the compulsory 30 secs in case of concussion, so why was Pedro allowed to stay on the pitch to take the penalty??
Why was he on the pitch in the first place, having motioned to elbow someone and missed in the previous game?
I haven't read all the latest posts so apologies if someone already said it........head injuries have to go off the field after the injury for the compulsory 30 secs in case of concussion, so why was Pedro allowed to stay on the pitch to take the penalty??
Blimey, that's a good point. I don't think anyone has mentioned that TeeCee. The way he was writhing about as though he'd been shot, the ref should absolutely have made him leave the field. The bastard couldn't get up and grab the ball quick enough once the clown ref had given the penalty.
The club need to bring all of this up and the ref needs to be hauled over the coals for your point alone. I think all this going off the pitch for very minor bangs on he head is bollocks, but they're the rules and we should be making the point that the ref would have been facing all sorts of charges if the player had subsequently gone down with a seizure or a brain haemorrhage.
