The ''no one is coming'' Transfer Thread

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Arguing about whether Giroud is better than anyone is pointless. If we played a system that accommodated two up front, then having Giroud would be fine, but under the current system, an average striker with a bit of pace is better than having a guy with zero pace, but the ability to hold up the ball. I know if anyone asked Ozil what type of player he would prefer up front, it would be anyone but Giroud. That's not saying Sturridge is the answer, but persisting with a guy who went missing for four months last season is ridiculous for a supposed big club.

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rodders999 wrote:Chambers gone to Boro on loan for the season, if as expected Debuchy heads off before the window shuts that leaves us one Bellerin injury away from what exactly?

We bought him from Soton and he was supposed to have potential.
All we've done is loan him out or not use him. Was there really any point to this purchase?

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northbank123 wrote:Sturridge is better than any of the strikers we have.
No. He simply is not. :lol: His PL goal record speaks for itself. Even Giroud is better, and has scored far more goals than Sturridge year after year after year, (bar 2014) even though Giroud is playing in a shit 4-5-1 system that does not play to his limited strengths. Sturridge has only ever managed double figures 3 times in 10 years! And one of those was seriously swayed by Suarez. Giroud has hit double figures every season with us.

Ultimately "double figures" is not good enough though, and Giroud is bog average, but Sturridge is not even that good. He also lacks Giroud's ability to link the play in the box. Honestly, no offence meant here, mate - but it looks like your well documented hatred of Giroud is influencing your post here. :lol: :wink:

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BFG4 wrote:Arguing about whether Giroud is better than anyone is pointless. If we played a system that accommodated two up front, then having Giroud would be fine, but under the current system, an average striker with a bit of pace is better than having a guy with zero pace, but the ability to hold up the ball. I know if anyone asked Ozil what type of player he would prefer up front, it would be anyone but Giroud. That's not saying Sturridge is the answer, but persisting with a guy who went missing for four months last season is ridiculous for a supposed big club.
I agree. But my point is why would we consider replacing Giroud (who is not good enough for a team with title aspirations) with someone with a far worse goal scoring record, less technical ability, and a stinking attitude to boot, like Sturridge?

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Midz wrote:
rodders999 wrote:Chambers gone to Boro on loan for the season, if as expected Debuchy heads off before the window shuts that leaves us one Bellerin injury away from what exactly?

We bought him from Soton and he was supposed to have potential.
All we've done is loan him out or not use him. Was there really any point to this purchase?
Yep. The media didn't talk him up. So Wenger took a punt in the hope that he'd come good and Wenger could point at him as another of his diamond's in the rough. The mad old bastard. :lol: :wink:

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Arguing about if Giroud is better than Sturridge is a bit like arguing over whether it is better to drink piss or eat shit really. Yes drinking piss is better than eating shit, but that does not mean it's good per se! :lol: :wink:

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DB10GOONER wrote:Arguing about if Giroud is better than Sturridge is a bit like arguing over whether it is better to drink piss or eat shit really. Yes drinking piss is better than eating shit, but that does not mean it's good per se! :lol: :wink:
Bear Grylls might disagree with that statement.

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I'd also say Sturridge is a better all round football player than Giroud. (regardless of stats)

Don't want either of them at Arsenal however.

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unfortunately the problem sturridge has is the ones outside of football. Would be more hassle than he is worth, so would like to see us as a club stay will clear

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DB10GOONER wrote:
northbank123 wrote:Sturridge is better than any of the strikers we have.
No. He simply is not. :lol: His PL goal record speaks for itself. Even Giroud is better, and has scored far more goals than Sturridge year after year after year, (bar 2014) even though Giroud is playing in a shit 4-5-1 system that does not play to his limited strengths. Sturridge has only ever managed double figures 3 times in 10 years! And one of those was seriously swayed by Suarez. Giroud has hit double figures every season with us.

Ultimately "double figures" is not good enough though, and Giroud is bog average, but Sturridge is not even that good. He also lacks Giroud's ability to link the play in the box. Honestly, no offence meant here, mate - but it looks like your well documented hatred of Giroud is influencing your post here. :lol: :wink:
Now I understand why you hate it when people base their arguments on statistics :lol:

Giroud has been here four seasons. In that time he has scored 57 goals in 135 PL games - that's 0.42/game.

Sturridge has been at Liverpool four seasons. In that time he has scored 43 goals in 69 PL games - that's 0.62/game.

How many goals he scored as a 17-year old at Man City isn't really relevant, and Liverpool and Arsenal are pretty fair comparators in terms of chances created etc. It doesn't make him a better all-around player but he is a better finisher, more of a predator and a better goal scorer than Giroud. When he isn't nobbled.

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Still no official announcement on the 2 signings, is it any wonder it takes so long to do a transfer :roll:

I would literally piss myself if either of the 2 fell through......if both were to collapse I'd drop dead laughing :lol:

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Once again AW leaves us woefully unprepared for the start of the season and once again his admiring fans will put it down to everything but him.

Who we do or don't buy from now is immaterial, it is who we should have bought and didn't that says it all, until AW goes every window will continue to be the same if not worse as more and more players, agents and clubs see us as a business as opposed to a football club and either avoid us or push the prices up :roll:

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rodders999 wrote:Still no official announcement on the 2 signings, is it any wonder it takes so long to do a transfer :roll:

I would literally piss myself if either of the 2 fell through......if both were to collapse I'd drop dead laughing :lol:
Maybe they have both failed their medicals. :lol:

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BFG4 wrote:Arguing about whether Giroud is better than anyone is pointless. If we played a system that accommodated two up front, then having Giroud would be fine, but under the current system, an average striker with a bit of pace is better than having a guy with zero pace, but the ability to hold up the ball. I know if anyone asked Ozil what type of player he would prefer up front, it would be anyone but Giroud. That's not saying Sturridge is the answer, but persisting with a guy who went missing for four months last season is ridiculous for a supposed big club.
Lacazette is averaging a goal every 37 minutes!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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