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Re: Arsene Wenger - For him or against him?
If Blackburn get kicked out of the FA cup for fielding an illegible player, we overturn the 3-1 deficit in Munich and all the teams above us go into administration and are docked points the Treble is still on isn't it Mr Delusional? 

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Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:Sorry mate - I used the words "sing" and "catchy" in the same way that Wenger uses the words "mental" and "strength"



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Says so many things."The AST believes the club are financially well set to improve on the decline of the last few seasons". ...


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I once worked for a bloke who used to say (among his many pearls of wisdom), "You can't steer by looking at the wake." However, the 'powers that be' and many pundits seem happy with AW because of what he has done in the past (an increasingly more distant past), but with what appears to be a lack of focus on what is happening now and what the future looks like.
Is there anybody out there who thinks things are improving, or indeed, haven't been worsening for two or three years now? The recent past has been poor. The present is worse and the near future looks bleak. So why would anybody still think AW should stay? I can understand Silent Stan enjoying our cash-pile but the so called professional pundits have no excuse.
As much as I don't want my club to become a laughing stock, we need more ex-players etc to start telling it like it is.
I always laugh when I hear the 'Liverpool are still a big club' line. I worry that people will be laughing at us for the same reason.
Is there anybody out there who thinks things are improving, or indeed, haven't been worsening for two or three years now? The recent past has been poor. The present is worse and the near future looks bleak. So why would anybody still think AW should stay? I can understand Silent Stan enjoying our cash-pile but the so called professional pundits have no excuse.
As much as I don't want my club to become a laughing stock, we need more ex-players etc to start telling it like it is.
I always laugh when I hear the 'Liverpool are still a big club' line. I worry that people will be laughing at us for the same reason.
Re: Arsene Wenger - For him or against him?
wengers desperatly clutching at straws with majority of the real arsenal faithful, he knows it too.... again, its matter of time before inconsistency sets back in with the results....
finishing below spurs wont go down well ...
finishing below spurs wont go down well ...
Re: Arsene Wenger - For him or against him?
Been following this thread for months, decided to join to put my tuppenceworth in.
Seems to me that despite what some people say, there isn’t only one Arsene Wenger, there are two.
On the one hand, there’s the AW who’s taking the club into meltdown, a deluded and possibly mentally unwell clown whose best days are behind him, unable to move with the times, bogged down in economics, with no idea how to delegate, blind to his own shortcomings and unwilling to take responsibility when things go wrong. This Arsene Wenger is presiding over an operation that grows more toxic by the day, with a procession of quality players who come to the Emirates and go backwards rather than improving, and a squad who like the kids of a failed marriage think they must be to blame for the situation because everything used to be all right some time way back when.
On the other hand, there’s the AW who assures us that despite a few bumps along the way, the Master Plan that started with the move to the Emirates is still on track, he’s still the right or even the only man for the job, and the full glory of his vision will become apparent when the Financial Fair Play rules kick in a couple of years hence. This Arsene Wenger can back up his claims by pointing out that with 11 games to go in the EPL the team are only 2 points behind last year’s European club champions, and that even without the deep pockets of Chelsea and Man C they’ve actually done better than both in the current ECL campaign.
So which is the real Arsene Wenger? Damn! I just can’t make up my mind…..
Seems to me that despite what some people say, there isn’t only one Arsene Wenger, there are two.
On the one hand, there’s the AW who’s taking the club into meltdown, a deluded and possibly mentally unwell clown whose best days are behind him, unable to move with the times, bogged down in economics, with no idea how to delegate, blind to his own shortcomings and unwilling to take responsibility when things go wrong. This Arsene Wenger is presiding over an operation that grows more toxic by the day, with a procession of quality players who come to the Emirates and go backwards rather than improving, and a squad who like the kids of a failed marriage think they must be to blame for the situation because everything used to be all right some time way back when.
On the other hand, there’s the AW who assures us that despite a few bumps along the way, the Master Plan that started with the move to the Emirates is still on track, he’s still the right or even the only man for the job, and the full glory of his vision will become apparent when the Financial Fair Play rules kick in a couple of years hence. This Arsene Wenger can back up his claims by pointing out that with 11 games to go in the EPL the team are only 2 points behind last year’s European club champions, and that even without the deep pockets of Chelsea and Man C they’ve actually done better than both in the current ECL campaign.
So which is the real Arsene Wenger? Damn! I just can’t make up my mind…..
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like somebody pointed out a while back Arsene is a great seller of the future,unfortunately the future 7 years ago when we move to the emirates is right now and has been this past painful 7 years,and things are not as he promised,not even close,in fact not even close to being far away ,simply not there at all,Arsene is a fraud who still to this day promises us a bright future,when the fuck will that be cos we have had enough of him and his bullshit.WENKER OUT!!monkswell wrote:Been following this thread for months, decided to join to put my tuppenceworth in.
Seems to me that despite what some people say, there isn’t only one Arsene Wenger, there are two.
On the one hand, there’s the AW who’s taking the club into meltdown, a deluded and possibly mentally unwell clown whose best days are behind him, unable to move with the times, bogged down in economics, with no idea how to delegate, blind to his own shortcomings and unwilling to take responsibility when things go wrong. This Arsene Wenger is presiding over an operation that grows more toxic by the day, with a procession of quality players who come to the Emirates and go backwards rather than improving, and a squad who like the kids of a failed marriage think they must be to blame for the situation because everything used to be all right some time way back when.
On the other hand, there’s the AW who assures us that despite a few bumps along the way, the Master Plan that started with the move to the Emirates is still on track, he’s still the right or even the only man for the job, and the full glory of his vision will become apparent when the Financial Fair Play rules kick in a couple of years hence. This Arsene Wenger can back up his claims by pointing out that with 11 games to go in the EPL the team are only 2 points behind last year’s European club champions, and that even without the deep pockets of Chelsea and Man C they’ve actually done better than both in the current ECL campaign.
So which is the real Arsene Wenger? Damn! I just can’t make up my mind…..

Re: Arsene Wenger - For him or against him?
I especially like the quote from wenger a few years ago when he said hat if he didn't bring success to the club within two years then he would leave 

Re: Arsene Wenger - For him or against him?
To paraphrase the great man ... it depends what you call 2 years!augie wrote:I especially like the quote from wenger a few years ago when he said hat if he didn't bring success to the club within two years then he would leave
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To paraphrase the great man ... it depends what you call 2 years![/quote]Clash wrote:augie wrote:I especially like the quote from wenger a few years ago when he said hat if he didn't bring success to the club within two years then he would leave
Its a bit like, player A will be out for 3 weeks then all of a sudden its 3 months

Re: Arsene Wenger - For him or against him?
A question.
Would anybody take a 4-0 defeat by spuds if it meant Wenger leaving Arsenal?
Would anybody take a 4-0 defeat by spuds if it meant Wenger leaving Arsenal?
Re: Arsene Wenger - For him or against him?
no but even if we lose 10-0 he still wont resign. plenty of times he could have been forced out before now but hasn't, he will see out his contract which is one more season and after that I just hope the club will say bye bye and not offer him another contract.Grumpypom wrote:A question.
Would anybody take a 4-0 defeat by spuds if it meant Wenger leaving Arsenal?
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That is a brilliant question tbh. For me it's a deffo no. I really struggle to get past my hatred of the scum. Sorry, big picture and all that is fine but I'm human, flawed and honest. I just despise the shower of cúntmonkeys.Grumpypom wrote:A question.
Would anybody take a 4-0 defeat by spuds if it meant Wenger leaving Arsenal?
But I also suppose that I'm comfortable in that answer because I know it could only ever be hypothetical. I mean if Arsene did actually hold a press conference and say "Fuck it. That's it. If the scum beat us 4-0 on Sunday I will resign right on the final whistle" then tbh I really don't know what the fuck I'd do!


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Was worried about the potential abuse the question might bring 

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Big no for me. Would be selling our soul to the Devil himself. Hate those bitter deluded big club wannabees with a vengeance and despite that tempting golden carrot being dangled , would keep our glorious leader on his throne every time. They would love nothing better than to see that as a notch on their football related comfort eating expanded belts to say that they finished Wengers reign, a man for all his recent faults was their nemesis for many years and who was contributory in keeping them where they belong. That said, they aren't singing ' Arsene Wenger, we want you to stay' for no reason. His time will come but not at the hands of the Scum hopefully.