Arsenal FC, not PLC

[QuartzGooner]

Have shortened them yet again, with a flyer in mind.

I really think wage structure is one to bring in when we start talking to the club. It is too detailed and too much the preserve of the Forums to use as an initial hook for a wider support for the campaign. Not that it is not important, and USMartin if you want to finalise your statement about it to use when the timing is right?

Ticket prices are a a good hook, but do not want to tread on AISA's toes over campaining for lower ticket prices. Focus should be on better players.

Thoughts please:

1.) We pay high ticket prices, so encourage the club to reinvest profits in the playing squad.

2.) We support the development of youth players, but worry there is an over reliance on youth, at the expense of older professionals whom the youth can learn from.

3.) We respect the social obligations and wider business interests of the PLC, but seek clarity that winning trophies remains the core objective.

[Arsenal 1991]

Have shortened them yet again, with a flyer in mind.

I really think wage structure is one to bring in when we start talking to the club. It is too detailed and too much the preserve of the Forums to use as an initial hook for a wider support for the campaign. Not that it is not important, and USMartin if you want to finalise your statement about it to use when the timing is right?

Ticket prices are a a good hook, but do not want to tread on AISA's toes over campaining for lower ticket prices. Focus should be on better players.

Thoughts please:

1.) We pay high ticket prices, so encourage the club to reinvest profits in the playing squad.

2.) We support the development of youth players, but worry there is an over reliance on youth, at the expense of older professionals whom the youth can learn from.

3.) We respect the social obligations and wider business interests of the PLC, but seek clarity that winning trophies remains the core objective.

2nd and 3rd are spot on imo

1st maybe We pay high ticket prices, so encourage the club to reinvest profits in improving the standard of the playing squad.

We're getting somewhere at least.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

So, which one of you guys is Wolfie then

[HashKads]

Have shortened them yet again, with a flyer in mind.

I really think wage structure is one to bring in when we start talking to the club. It is too detailed and too much the preserve of the Forums to use as an initial hook for a wider support for the campaign. Not that it is not important, and USMartin if you want to finalise your statement about it to use when the timing is right?

Ticket prices are a a good hook, but do not want to tread on AISA's toes over campaining for lower ticket prices. Focus should be on better players.

Thoughts please:

1.) We pay high ticket prices, so encourage the club to reinvest profits in the playing squad.

2.) We support the development of youth players, but worry there is an over reliance on youth, at the expense of older professionals whom the youth can learn from.

3.) We respect the social obligations and wider business interests of the PLC, but seek clarity that winning trophies remains the core objective.

2nd and 3rd are spot on imo

1st maybe We pay high ticket prices, so encourage the club to reinvest profits in improving the standard of the playing squad.

We're getting somewhere at least.

This then;

1.) We pay high ticket prices, so encourage the club to reinvest profits in improving the standard of the playing squad.

2.) We support the development of youth players, but worry there is an over reliance on youth, at the expense of older professionals whom the youth can learn from.

3.) We respect the social obligations and wider business interests of the PLC, but seek clarity that winning trophies remains the core objective.

[QuartzGooner]

Slight tweak to point one?:


1.) We pay high ticket prices, so encourage reinvestment to improve the playing squad.

2.) We support the development of youth players, but worry there is an over reliance on youth, at the expense of older professionals whom the youth can learn from.

3.) We respect the social obligations and wider business interests of the PLC, but seek clarity that winning trophies remains the core objective.


USMartin wants inclusion about wage structure at this stage.

Myself I think it is something to introduce later on in detailed talks with the club, as it is not something immediately known about to the average fan and not something that can be a populist hook, it feels very specialised for a general mission statement.

Thoughts please?

[augie]

To me quartz those points are so softly softly they could be wrapped in cotton wool

I will still argue that any call for the club to invest their profits into the playing squad will only be met with a response that they are alredy doing so by giving new contracts to *word censored* like diaby, bendtner etc
Any point referring to the playing squad must include the buying of proven quality players in my opinion

[flash gunner]

To me quartz those points are so softly softly they could be wrapped in cotton wool

I will still argue that any call for the club to invest their profits into the playing squad will only be met with a response that they are alredy doing so by giving new contracts to c**ts like diaby, bendtner etc
Any point referring to the playing squad must include the buying of proven quality players in my opinion

I agree...... point 1 is about opinions and in the clubs/Wengers opinion they are improving the squad with Chesny and money spent on Kos and Squllaci

[QuartzGooner]

Ok, thinking.

[mikeyb772001]

Ok, thinking.

pm'd

[QuartzGooner]

Taken Augie and Flash's concerns into account and added to point one.

The statement is not confrontational or saying the club is a disaster, just an expression of heartache from a wide range of fans who have seen same old mistakes repeated since 2006.

Thoughts please?

1.) We pay high ticket prices, so encourage reinvestment in experienced new signings to improve the squad.

2.) We support the development of youth players, but worry there is an over reliance on youth, at the expense of older professionals whom the youth can learn from.

3.) We respect the social obligations and wider business interests of the PLC, but seek clarity that winning trophies remains the core objective.

[USMartin]

On reflection I agree that the wage structure issue is not for the flyer. It is an issue to take up with the club itself. The flyer needs to be a brief as possible - at least the first flyer does so we can get people to read it and then hopefully choose to join or support this effort.

Classic I keep trying to point out to people that these mission staements are for the public and not official mission statements and I end up being the confused one

[mikeyb772001]

Have shortened them yet again, with a flyer in mind.

I really think wage structure is one to bring in when we start talking to the club. It is too detailed and too much the preserve of the Forums to use as an initial hook for a wider support for the campaign. Not that it is not important, and USMartin if you want to finalise your statement about it to use when the timing is right?

Ticket prices are a a good hook, but do not want to tread on AISA's toes over campaining for lower ticket prices. Focus should be on better players.

Thoughts please:

Valid point here - wage stucture is not something for a flyer. Agree fully from that perspective.

I guess I am getting confiused here even as I try to remind everyone else that these are more for public consumtion than for our actuall mission stament. Leave it to me to be the confused one

May Is uggest though that we also put together actaul missionstatement points - ones for the as you point out the actual dialogue with the club.

These in my mind would be more along the lines of the original mission staments - we can work on the actual details for them as well, so we undertsand that disticntion. I mean if we open an actiual website these would not be the mission staements for that I don't believe. Thoughts?

1.) We pay high ticket prices, so encourage the club to reinvest profits in the playing squad.

2.) We support the development of youth players, but worry there is an over reliance on youth, at the expense of older professionals whom the youth can learn from.

3.) We respect the social obligations and wider business interests of the PLC, but seek clarity that winning trophies remains the core objective.

2nd and 3rd are spot on imo

1st maybe We pay high ticket prices, so encourage the club to reinvest profits in improving the standard of the playing squad.

We're getting somewhere at least.

This then;

1.) We pay high ticket prices, so encourage the club to reinvest profits in improving the standard of the playing squad.

2.) We support the development of youth players, but worry there is an over reliance on youth, at the expense of older professionals whom the youth can learn from.

3.) We respect the social obligations and wider business interests of the PLC, but seek clarity that winning trophies remains the core objective

.

i like this! SIMPLE TO THE POINT

[flash gunner]

Taken Augie and Flash's concerns into account and added to point one.

The statement is not confrontational or saying the club is a disaster, just an expression of heartache from a wide range of fans who have seen same old mistakes repeated since 2006.

Thoughts please?

1.) We pay high ticket prices, so encourage reinvestment in proven players to improve the squad.

2.) We support the development of youth players, but worry there is an over reliance on youth, at the expense of older professionals whom the youth can learn from.

3.) We respect the social obligations and wider business interests of the PLC, but seek clarity that winning trophies remains the core objective.

in my opinion those 3 points are just about spot on now, in 1 the word encourage is a bit weak but ok

[QuartzGooner]

Flash Augie,

How about this for point one?

Puts the onus on club to buy players rather than increase the wages of existing ones?


1.) We pay high ticket prices, so encourage reinvestment in experienced new signings to improve the squad.

2.) We support the development of youth players, but worry there is an over reliance on youth, at the expense of older professionals whom the youth can learn from.

3.) We respect the social obligations and wider business interests of the PLC, but seek clarity that winning trophies remains the core objective.

[Arsenal 1991]

Taken Augie and Flash's concerns into account and added to point one.

The statement is not confrontational or saying the club is a disaster, just an expression of heartache from a wide range of fans who have seen same old mistakes repeated since 2006.

Thoughts please?

1.) We pay high ticket prices, so encourage reinvestment in proven players to improve the squad.

2.) We support the development of youth players, but worry there is an over reliance on youth, at the expense of older professionals whom the youth can learn from.

3.) We respect the social obligations and wider business interests of the PLC, but seek clarity that winning trophies remains the core objective.

in my opinion those 3 points are just about spot on now, in 1 the word encourage is a bit weak but ok

How about want to see?

We pay high ticket prices, so want to see more reinvestment to improve the squad.

Or We pay high ticket prices, so want reinvestment in proven players to improve the squad.