Scum at home

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Anybody else see Sounness slap Henry down when he tried interrupting him in a rant earlier?

Would rather listen to Sounness as a pundit every day.

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northbank123 wrote:
GoonerN5 wrote:Chim, chimney
Chim, chimney
Chim chim cheroo
Who needs Luis Suarez when we've got Giroud
He seems to have a complex in these big games as he misses just about every chance in them.

As well as today he chucked away two points against Liverpool by fluffing from six yards, he was diabolical in last years CL knockout game against Monaco missing sitter after sitter and how many times has he spunked away chances against the likes of Chelsea at home?

In all fairness the second header off the corner is the kind he buries every week, have to question whether it is merely coincidence that he seems unable to put that sort of regulation chance away in big games when it matters.
I'm not a Giroud fan but to be fair to him today he was no worse than the rest of the team. They all played pony.

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Absolutely, he was completely disconnected from the rest of the team and put in a reasonable performance. I was on about his propensity to miss great chances.

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Someone was saying in the week that Giroud has scored more with his head than any other player in the EPL. It's just a shame he couldn't have got one on target today.

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The only positive from today is that we didn't lose given the level of performance. Even in the end when we were going for an undeserved win there was no cohesion or joined up thinking.
I'm going against the grain here and I'm going to defend(not praise) Joel Campbell. He is very left footed, yet he is stuck wide right. I accept that was through necessity but he twice had a chance to cross with his right foot but had neither the ability or confidence. Playing off a striker at a lower level Campbell could be a useful player. But our ambition should be higher.
Thought Sanchez was poor, when he plays poorly he loses the ball too frequently. Ozil had a few glimpses of class but was on the edge of the game. Thought Debuchy was reasonable but offers little going forward. This was compounded by Campbell's inability to go outside his full back. Monreal had a decent game along with Cech. Overall a game to forget , happy with anything from the performance. Interlull break now..we need a few bodies returning.

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Considering we've got a few out injured that would have made a difference a draw was a good result against a spuds team on a good run. In the last 3 games the pace of theo is sorely missed, we played slower and a lot less penetrating than when we are with him in the team. Would've been nice to take all 3 points but at least we didn't lose ground. Tottenham looked a decent, solid team for the first time in years, unbeaten in the league since the first day of the season, a bit like everton in Martinez's first season. We'll get stronger, they were at their strongest and still couldn't take us.

Also, anyone else get the feeling harry kane will take over from rooney and drogba as the striker that will always score against us no matter what we do...we should buy him just to prevent him scoring against us.

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Nice of the scummer fans too destroy the bogs. Send the bill to shiteole lane.

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Midz wrote:Someone was saying in the week that Giroud has scored more with his head than any other player in the EPL. It's just a shame he couldn't have got one on target today.
That's at ' midweek training'. He should have buried those two headers & got us a result we didn't deserve !. We'll play worse than this & win games this year. :barscarf: :barscarf:

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donaldo71 wrote:We gained a point because of one man Cech

The Spuds dominated the game for 75 mins.Coquelin chasing shadows all game.

Agreed. Spurs were better than us and should have taken all 3 points. The team looked knackered and seemed to have no idea what they were doing. Spurs, on the other hand, looked fitter, sharper and knew what they were doing. Hate to say it but its true.

All comes back to one bloke and his refusal to buy anyone in the summer because there was no one out there better than what he had............................that and the fact he hasn't got a clue about tactics.

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SPARKSY wrote:
donaldo71 wrote:We gained a point because of one man Cech

The Spuds dominated the game for 75 mins.Coquelin chasing shadows all game.

Agreed. Spurs were better than us and should have taken all 3 points. The team looked knackered and seemed to have no idea what they were doing. Spurs, on the other hand, looked fitter, sharper and knew what they were doing. Hate to say it but its true.

All comes back to one bloke and his refusal to buy anyone in the summer because there was no one out there better than what he had............................that and the fact he hasn't got a clue about tactics.

Whoa wait a minute guys, cannot blame Coquelin, there midfield was packed he was massively outnumbered
They were picking up everything in the middle, there fore controlling the game

Wenger again neither had the tactical nous to counter balance, or indeed the personnel to do the job

Given everything could have easily lost, important point with City also drawing

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Bradywasking wrote:The only positive from today is that we didn't lose given the level of performance. Even in the end when we were going for an undeserved win there was no cohesion or joined up thinking.
I'm going against the grain here and I'm going to defend(not praise) Joel Campbell. He is very left footed, yet he is stuck wide right. I accept that was through necessity but he twice had a chance to cross with his right foot but had neither the ability or confidence. Playing off a striker at a lower level Campbell could be a useful player. But our ambition should be higher.
Thought Sanchez was poor, when he plays poorly he loses the ball too frequently. Ozil had a few glimpses of class but was on the edge of the game. Thought Debuchy was reasonable but offers little going forward. This was compounded by Campbell's inability to go outside his full back. Monreal had a decent game along with Cech. Overall a game to forget , happy with anything from the performance. Interlull break now..we need a few bodies returning.


Campbell is left footed but playing on the right, cos sanchez is right footed and playing on the left and that is because it is sanchez's position of choice. Both of these decisions lead to us playing a narrow game which is totally unsuitable for giroud - a victims supporting buddy of mine continues to rant against the signing of benteke cos he argues that they don't have wingers that will cross the ball in effectively for him, and I would suggest that it is a very similar situation for us re giroud. If we are to continue to pander to sanchez (and maybe he has earned that special treatment) and allow him to decide which wing he wants, then we sure as hell better have a proper right footed winger on the opposite wing. Personally I would have forced sanchez to play right wing (like he did when gibbs came on) and put Campbell on left and seen then if we would have had some width to our game

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augie wrote:
Bradywasking wrote:The only positive from today is that we didn't lose given the level of performance. Even in the end when we were going for an undeserved win there was no cohesion or joined up thinking.
I'm going against the grain here and I'm going to defend(not praise) Joel Campbell. He is very left footed, yet he is stuck wide right. I accept that was through necessity but he twice had a chance to cross with his right foot but had neither the ability or confidence. Playing off a striker at a lower level Campbell could be a useful player. But our ambition should be higher.
Thought Sanchez was poor, when he plays poorly he loses the ball too frequently. Ozil had a few glimpses of class but was on the edge of the game. Thought Debuchy was reasonable but offers little going forward. This was compounded by Campbell's inability to go outside his full back. Monreal had a decent game along with Cech. Overall a game to forget , happy with anything from the performance. Interlull break now..we need a few bodies returning.


Campbell is left footed but playing on the right, cos sanchez is right footed and playing on the left and that is because it is sanchez's position of choice. Both of these decisions lead to us playing a narrow game which is totally unsuitable for giroud - a victims supporting buddy of mine continues to rant against the signing of benteke cos he argues that they don't have wingers that will cross the ball in effectively for him, and I would suggest that it is a very similar situation for us re giroud. If we are to continue to pander to sanchez (and maybe he has earned that special treatment) and allow him to decide which wing he wants, then we sure as hell better have a proper right footed winger on the opposite wing. Personally I would have forced sanchez to play right wing (like he did when gibbs came on) and put Campbell on left and seen then if we would have had some width to our game
Agreed, this is where they miss Bellerin, he can get down the right and provide some sort of service to Giroud

Have said it before but this guy needs service, he working off crumbs at the moment, he can do a job if provided

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Redarmy wrote:
augie wrote:
Bradywasking wrote:The only positive from today is that we didn't lose given the level of performance. Even in the end when we were going for an undeserved win there was no cohesion or joined up thinking.
I'm going against the grain here and I'm going to defend(not praise) Joel Campbell. He is very left footed, yet he is stuck wide right. I accept that was through necessity but he twice had a chance to cross with his right foot but had neither the ability or confidence. Playing off a striker at a lower level Campbell could be a useful player. But our ambition should be higher.
Thought Sanchez was poor, when he plays poorly he loses the ball too frequently. Ozil had a few glimpses of class but was on the edge of the game. Thought Debuchy was reasonable but offers little going forward. This was compounded by Campbell's inability to go outside his full back. Monreal had a decent game along with Cech. Overall a game to forget , happy with anything from the performance. Interlull break now..we need a few bodies returning.


Campbell is left footed but playing on the right, cos sanchez is right footed and playing on the left and that is because it is sanchez's position of choice. Both of these decisions lead to us playing a narrow game which is totally unsuitable for giroud - a victims supporting buddy of mine continues to rant against the signing of benteke cos he argues that they don't have wingers that will cross the ball in effectively for him, and I would suggest that it is a very similar situation for us re giroud. If we are to continue to pander to sanchez (and maybe he has earned that special treatment) and allow him to decide which wing he wants, then we sure as hell better have a proper right footed winger on the opposite wing. Personally I would have forced sanchez to play right wing (like he did when gibbs came on) and put Campbell on left and seen then if we would have had some width to our game
Agreed, this is where they miss Bellerin, he can get down the right and provide some sort of service to Giroud

Have said it before but this guy needs service, he working off crumbs at the moment, he can do a job if provided
Ozil stuck it to his head on numerous occasions and he fluffed them all

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Giroud is not a good header of the ball, despite what stats say, its his strength and subtle flicks that gets him the goals, and that relys on pinpoint passes to his feet from central positions or crosses. Packing things centrally and having no wing play to mention meant this was an inevitable draw or loss :oops:

Genuinely feel sorry for him, he isnt as bad as many make out, but he is much more of an impact type player than a regular 90 minute player. We are and will continue to miss Wally until the old duffer wakes up to another striker on the cheap :oops:

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Agreed and most people know that he isn't good enough to be anything more than a back up striker (same as wally) for any club with title aspirations, BUT my point was that there is no point in playing a striker like him if we are going with a system that see's no wide men delivering crosses into the box - he is to all intensive purposes, in a similar situation in that he is being asked to do a job which differs from what caused us to buy him in the first place :roll:

Every season we have a stage when the injuries pile up and kill us, but it is especially frustrating when we know that there is a league title there to be won if only we were properly set up and prepared for that challenge :( However what is really pissing me off is the amount of Gooners that continue to throw up the injuries as an excuse for the Bayern debacle and yesterdays woeful performances - yet again yesterday we had a starting team containing 10 full internationals so there can be no excuses made for their pathetic efforts :evil: I also feel that instead of bemoaning the amount of injuries we have, the fans should be kicking up blue murder again over the pathetic summer transfer business - le cock will stand in front of the media and refer to injuries as a defence, but we need to highlight the fact that the world and its mother knows that rosicky, wilshere and wally have all had a succession of injuries every season and wellbeck's (not allowed to call him wellshit anymore :wink: ) injury was well before the transfer window ended too, and maybe if we highlight it then the meeja will throw that at him the next time he wheels that excuse out

We cannot continue to moan about injuries when we do nothing to prepare for them :evil:

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