Villa Vaginas A Sat 9th Dec KO 530pm

[Perryashburtongroves]

Shit performance but more bent refereeing. Nothing else to say really. There is no fucking way in this world that the referee could ever spot a handball there because there fucking wasn't one. The only fucking handball was their defender who handles it twice and of course, none of the cúnts bother to even think about that.

The ball hit Cash on the arm first,then hit Havertz arm OFF another part of the body,so how can that be disallowed?

If we can spot these things, why can't they? It is so fucking obvious. It hits the defender on the arm and hand and then brushes Havertz because it's hit the defender. They are incompetent or cheating. No middle ground.

I've always said in the prem, the refs love to be a part of the "show." VAR completely unaccountable. Incoming howard webb handwavy explanation of why the handball off the defender ISNT a hand ball but kicking it into havertz arm somehow IS.

Penalty against Jesus not given. Literally kicks the back of his leg... we're beyond incompetence. Outright cheats.

Yep. How the referee can see that is beyond me. Through a crowd of players, backpost, two attackers, keeper, defender and he can see that? No fucking way. No fucking way he wouldn't just give the goal and have it checked, but of course, he knows that if is ruled out, VAR won't overturn it. It's fucking corrupt. As we can see, it clearly hits the defender on the arm and hand and that's a penalty so why isn't that given? Again, where's the fucking audio? All that will happen, is that we'll see angles of where the ref was and it will be impossible for him to give it. He's guessing because he wants to rule the goal out. It's that fucking simple. And how the fuck was the kick on the back of Jesus's legs not given? It is beyond a joke now. They are making it up and they have been instructed to look after each other and always back the referee unless it is obvious. I also want to know why the fuck we didn't get the lines drawn for Saka's offside decision?

[robbo10]

I didn't get to watch this one but from what I read Arteta takes on an affective Martinelli yet keep his signing zinchenko on until after the 90th?

Martinelli got in behind most times,so brains takes him off,nullifies his own side the stupid prick,sums up Arteta and his ludicrous ideas,yet Zinchekslow slows down play time and again and plays full games

[augie]

Same soft centre

Three hot atmospheres away from home this season - Lens, Newcastle and tonight - and we lost the lot

This team will never win the league. More anonymous shit from our captain. Saka and Martinelli both less than useless. Zinchenko playing as "inverted wing back" I.e the made up position for people that are really midfielders who can't defend

Dreadful

zinchenko - el basque signing and not good enough
jesus - el basque signing and not good enough
odeargod - el basque signing and not good enough and cowardly
havertz - el basque signing and not good enough
white - el basque signing and not good enough
ramsdale and raya - el basque signings and not good enough


dont give the c.unt another penny to spend

[OneBardGooner]

What is Depressing about that is that had we turned up (preferably with Tomi instead of CliveZinchenko) we could won "Easily".


Just Staggering how poor we were... 8 chances and NONE Taken.

[dPmunky]

I didn't get to watch this one but from what I read Arteta takes on an affective Martinelli yet keep his signing zinchenko on until after the 90th?

Basically

Saka looked like he was nursing something too, never hit top gear today

[augie]

I didn't get to watch this one but from what I read Arteta takes on an affective Martinelli yet keep his signing zinchenko on until after the 90th?

Martinelli got in behind most times,so brains takes him off,nullifies his own side the stupid prick,sums up Arteta and his ludicrous ideas,yet Zinchekslow slows down play time and again and plays full games

I'm a huge martinelli fan but today he was dogshite

[robbo10]

Shit performance but more bent refereeing. Nothing else to say really. There is no fucking way in this world that the referee could ever spot a handball there because there fucking wasn't one. The only fucking handball was their defender who handles it twice and of course, none of the cúnts bother to even think about that.

The ball hit Cash on the arm first,then hit Havertz arm OFF another part of the body,so how can that be disallowed?

If we can spot these things, why can't they? It is so fucking obvious. It hits the defender on the arm and hand and then brushes Havertz because it's hit the defender. They are incompetent or cheating. No middle ground.

I've always said in the prem, the refs love to be a part of the "show." VAR completely unaccountable. Incoming howard webb handwavy explanation of why the handball off the defender ISNT a hand ball but kicking it into havertz arm somehow IS.

Penalty against Jesus not given. Literally kicks the back of his leg... we're beyond incompetence. Outright cheats.

Yep. How the referee can see that is beyond me. Through a crowd of players, backpost, two attackers, keeper, defender and he can see that? No fucking way. No fucking way he wouldn't just give the goal and have it checked, but of course, he knows that if is ruled out, VAR won't overturn it. It's fucking corrupt. As we can see, it clearly hits the defender on the arm and hand and that's a penalty so why isn't that given? Again, where's the fucking audio? All that will happen, is that we'll see angles of where the ref was and it will be impossible for him to give it. He's guessing because he wants to rule the goal out. It's that fucking simple. And how the fuck was the kick on the back of Jesus's legs not given? It is beyond a joke now. They are making it up and they have been instructed to look after each other and always back the referee unless it is obvious. I also want to know why the fuck we didn't get the lines drawn for Saka's offside decision?

But we all know they’ll close shop and have the excuses ready as to why it was disallowed,it’s fucking corrupt and scandalous,the standard of refereeing is abysmal

[Midz]

Very disappointed with that loss. We weren't that bad just didn't do enough to win.

[A11M11]

From the moment that Arteta had his little tirade , I don't think that we have had a decision go our way , They were physical, throughout the game they took out Saka and Martinelli at will and Gillett was either bent , incompetent , or under orders from a higher power .
I was not surprised to see us not get the VAR decision the PGMOL have had their nose put out of joint and they will make us suffer.

[Thynker]

I'd give Martinelli a run up top and put Trossard in to the team.
Would provide an aerial presence too

[Perryashburtongroves]

The ball hit Cash on the arm first,then hit Havertz arm OFF another part of the body,so how can that be disallowed?

If we can spot these things, why can't they? It is so fucking obvious. It hits the defender on the arm and hand and then brushes Havertz because it's hit the defender. They are incompetent or cheating. No middle ground.

I've always said in the prem, the refs love to be a part of the "show." VAR completely unaccountable. Incoming howard webb handwavy explanation of why the handball off the defender ISNT a hand ball but kicking it into havertz arm somehow IS.

Penalty against Jesus not given. Literally kicks the back of his leg... we're beyond incompetence. Outright cheats.

Yep. How the referee can see that is beyond me. Through a crowd of players, backpost, two attackers, keeper, defender and he can see that? No fucking way. No fucking way he wouldn't just give the goal and have it checked, but of course, he knows that if is ruled out, VAR won't overturn it. It's fucking corrupt. As we can see, it clearly hits the defender on the arm and hand and that's a penalty so why isn't that given? Again, where's the fucking audio? All that will happen, is that we'll see angles of where the ref was and it will be impossible for him to give it. He's guessing because he wants to rule the goal out. It's that fucking simple. And how the fuck was the kick on the back of Jesus's legs not given? It is beyond a joke now. They are making it up and they have been instructed to look after each other and always back the referee unless it is obvious. I also want to know why the fuck we didn't get the lines drawn for Saka's offside decision?

But we all know they’ll close shop and have the excuses ready as to why it was disallowed,it’s fucking corrupt and scandalous,the standard of refereeing is abysmal

If it wasn't corrupt, they'd broadcast the audio to TV viewers. That they refuse to, tells us everything. A multi-billion pound industry with zero accountability or zero explanation from the people who make decisions. They should be expected to attend a press conference after every game to explain the decisions.

[dPmunky]

From the moment that Arteta had his little tirade , I don't think that we have had a decision go our way , They were physical, throughout the game they took out Saka and Martinelli at will and Gillett was either bent , incompetent , or under orders from a higher power .
I was not surprised to see us not get the VAR decision the PGMOL have had their nose put out of joint and they will make us suffer.

They done the same with Klopp a few years back.

They CAN NOT be criticized without responding like petulant children.

[robbo10]

If we can spot these things, why can't they? It is so fucking obvious. It hits the defender on the arm and hand and then brushes Havertz because it's hit the defender. They are incompetent or cheating. No middle ground.

I've always said in the prem, the refs love to be a part of the "show." VAR completely unaccountable. Incoming howard webb handwavy explanation of why the handball off the defender ISNT a hand ball but kicking it into havertz arm somehow IS.

Penalty against Jesus not given. Literally kicks the back of his leg... we're beyond incompetence. Outright cheats.

Yep. How the referee can see that is beyond me. Through a crowd of players, backpost, two attackers, keeper, defender and he can see that? No fucking way. No fucking way he wouldn't just give the goal and have it checked, but of course, he knows that if is ruled out, VAR won't overturn it. It's fucking corrupt. As we can see, it clearly hits the defender on the arm and hand and that's a penalty so why isn't that given? Again, where's the fucking audio? All that will happen, is that we'll see angles of where the ref was and it will be impossible for him to give it. He's guessing because he wants to rule the goal out. It's that fucking simple. And how the fuck was the kick on the back of Jesus's legs not given? It is beyond a joke now. They are making it up and they have been instructed to look after each other and always back the referee unless it is obvious. I also want to know why the fuck we didn't get the lines drawn for Saka's offside decision?

But we all know they’ll close shop and have the excuses ready as to why it was disallowed,it’s fucking corrupt and scandalous,the standard of refereeing is abysmal

If it wasn't corrupt, they'd broadcast the audio to TV viewers. That they refuse to, tells us everything. A multi-billion pound industry with zero accountability or zero explanation from the people who make decisions. They should be expected to attend a press conference after every game to explain the decisions.

But they cannot explain that away,the ball hits cashs arm,comes back onto Havertz’s chest THEN arm,then he scores,no fouls on the keeper,no offside,so how the fucking hell do they not see what millions of people have seen on their screens but 3 c unts in the mythical caravan see something different,it complete and total incompetence,at the highest level,corruption and wrong doing,we’re probably paying for Artetas outbursts

[Retro Gunner]

Absolute shit. It's pretty standard that every now and then we get a reminder of why we won't win the league, let alone the CL.

This was the biggest game of the season so far, an opportunity to lay down a marker, establish our credentials and put some decent light between us and City. As usual, we shit the bed.

You don't win the league when you routinely have Zinchenko and White in your back line...no surprise that the goal came down Zinchenko's flank...when your strikers are either Jesus or Eddie and when you buy and play Havertz. Seriuosly, Havertz! He's fucking useless, always loses a 50/50 (or a 60/40 in his favour), frequently under-hitting his hospital passes and creating nothing. A total liability.

You also don't win things with a manager that brings on Trossard, but takes off Martineli and leaves Havertz stinking the place out.

We got what we deserved, fuck all.

[Perryashburtongroves]

I've always said in the prem, the refs love to be a part of the "show." VAR completely unaccountable. Incoming howard webb handwavy explanation of why the handball off the defender ISNT a hand ball but kicking it into havertz arm somehow IS.

Penalty against Jesus not given. Literally kicks the back of his leg... we're beyond incompetence. Outright cheats.

Yep. How the referee can see that is beyond me. Through a crowd of players, backpost, two attackers, keeper, defender and he can see that? No fucking way. No fucking way he wouldn't just give the goal and have it checked, but of course, he knows that if is ruled out, VAR won't overturn it. It's fucking corrupt. As we can see, it clearly hits the defender on the arm and hand and that's a penalty so why isn't that given? Again, where's the fucking audio? All that will happen, is that we'll see angles of where the ref was and it will be impossible for him to give it. He's guessing because he wants to rule the goal out. It's that fucking simple. And how the fuck was the kick on the back of Jesus's legs not given? It is beyond a joke now. They are making it up and they have been instructed to look after each other and always back the referee unless it is obvious. I also want to know why the fuck we didn't get the lines drawn for Saka's offside decision?

But we all know they’ll close shop and have the excuses ready as to why it was disallowed,it’s fucking corrupt and scandalous,the standard of refereeing is abysmal

If it wasn't corrupt, they'd broadcast the audio to TV viewers. That they refuse to, tells us everything. A multi-billion pound industry with zero accountability or zero explanation from the people who make decisions. They should be expected to attend a press conference after every game to explain the decisions.

But they cannot explain that away,the ball hits cashs arm,comes back onto Havertz’s chest THEN arm,then he scores,no fouls on the keeper,no offside,so how the fucking hell do they not see what millions of people have seen on their screens but 3 c unts in the mythical caravan see something different,it complete and total incompetence,at the highest level,corruption and wrong doing,we’re probably paying for Artetas outbursts

The ref has guessed and given a free-kick because he thinks Havertz has used his arm to control the original cross. I think that's when he blows his whistle. You can clearly see that the ball hits, as you say, Cash on the arm and then it comes off the palm of his hand when it's up in the air. That's a penalty any day of the week. The ball hits Havertz on the hand because Cash has used his hand to block the ball, it's not a handball and any other team has that goal awarded. There is no evidence to disallow it and evidence to award a penalty. It's the old cheating, corrupt ref thing of they see what they want to see only these days they just have more corrupt, cheating refs involved.