THE WENGER THREAD

[Herd]

think Iggle Piggle is a better option than wenger

[Nos89]

Tales from the rumour mill

Josh Kroenke in town

Wenger will be sacked if he doesn't make the CL.

Arteta is being sounded out as a replacement.


At this point, I wouldn't be against Arteta. Obviously doesn't have much experience but well respected, young and hopefully a breath of fresh air. Has the backroom personnel to make the signings with Sanllehi and Mislintat.

I guess we have to be realistic and acknowledge that diego simeone is but a pipe dream, and I suspect conte would be the same, so for me the only two candidates worth considering are ancelotti and PV4 - originally I had wanted an experienced guy like ancelotti, but now I am leaning more towards appointing PV4. Romford pele spoke last night and supported the idea of PV4, and suggested that he feels that the fans would give him time to get the club back up competing again - we all realise that there is an awful mess there to sort out for the next manager whenever that happens, and if PV4 would be given the time then I would want him as next manager no doubt. Vieira knows the club and it's dynamic, and also knows the lie of the land with the fans - he was universally loved because he fought to win every single day, and we need that type of attitude in our club right now. The man has some managerial experience (albeit in the mls) so wouldnt be a rookie in the henry or arteta mode, and might be the right the right choice in this moment of time

PV4 knows what it means to be an Arsenal player, as does Henry. I'd support Vieira, with Henry, Pires, Llundberg, Lehman and Keown as the back room staff. Arteta will follow.
We need to build a dynasty in the way Chapman did, and the way Shankly copied at Liverpool. We've missed out on a generation of Arsenal players who knew what it meant to play for the club PV4 would be a great person to start a new chapter in our history. After all, he's not taking over a club at the top of the league. Far from it.

[NickF]

PV4 knows what it means to be an Arsenal player, as does Henry. I'd support Vieira, with Henry, Pires, Llundberg, Lehman and Keown as the back room staff. Arteta will follow.

Knowing what it means to be an Arsenal player is not a qualification to managed the team though.
Prefer someone with experience even if it were short term with maybe one of the above learning the ropes.

[IW8Goalmachine]

PV4 knows what it means to be an Arsenal player, as does Henry. I'd support Vieira, with Henry, Pires, Llundberg, Lehman and Keown as the back room staff. Arteta will follow.

Knowing what it means to be an Arsenal player is not a qualification to managed the team though.
Prefer someone with experience even if it were short term with maybe one of the above learning the ropes.

Having them as an assistant manager would be the way to go about it.

[supergeorgegraham]

When Wengers goes if the new manager is not backed financially to rebuild the team will all anger be redirected at Kroenke.
At the moment Wenger is doing a great job at directing the anger but even after blowing 50 plus million on both Auboomerang and Lacazette we still didn't spend much because we sold players.
It would be very easy for Arsenal to go through a period of sacking managers after Wenger leaves or gets sacked himself.
Still it's a change that's needed so start the sacking and let's see if our board do have any ambition.
Buying the right players would be a good start

[Clash]

PV4 knows what it means to be an Arsenal player, as does Henry. I'd support Vieira, with Henry, Pires, Llundberg, Lehman and Keown as the back room staff. Arteta will follow.
We need to build a dynasty in the way Chapman did, and the way Shankly copied at Liverpool. We've missed out on a generation of Arsenal players who knew what it meant to play for the club PV4 would be a great person to start a new chapter in our history. After all, he's not taking over a club at the top of the league. Far from it.

Yes and for me this is one of Wenger's biggest crimes.

Not only did he fast track project youth by getting the old guard out as quickly as possible, he has also neglected to use their experience in a coaching capacity further down the line. The past 10 years have been totally wasted and they have also shown that Wenger has too many inadequacies to succeed without help.

Wenger's belief that he could develop a young side that grew up together shows how naive he is as well as how he overrated his own development skills . Young players only develop properly when they're alongside experienced players. Without Schmeichel and Cantona for instance, then Man United's 'class of 92' ( ) wouldnt have been as successful. Of course when Wenger did finally add some experience it was fruticakes like Gallas and geriatrics like Silvestre that he lumbered us with!

And talking of Gallas, it shows how clueless SkySports are that they chose him as Arsenal's representative in their cup final build up on Sunday

[augie]

Tales from the rumour mill

Josh Kroenke in town

Wenger will be sacked if he doesn't make the CL.

Arteta is being sounded out as a replacement.


At this point, I wouldn't be against Arteta. Obviously doesn't have much experience but well respected, young and hopefully a breath of fresh air. Has the backroom personnel to make the signings with Sanllehi and Mislintat.

I guess we have to be realistic and acknowledge that diego simeone is but a pipe dream, and I suspect conte would be the same, so for me the only two candidates worth considering are ancelotti and PV4 - originally I had wanted an experienced guy like ancelotti, but now I am leaning more towards appointing PV4. Romford pele spoke last night and supported the idea of PV4, and suggested that he feels that the fans would give him time to get the club back up competing again - we all realise that there is an awful mess there to sort out for the next manager whenever that happens, and if PV4 would be given the time then I would want him as next manager no doubt. Vieira knows the club and it's dynamic, and also knows the lie of the land with the fans - he was universally loved because he fought to win every single day, and we need that type of attitude in our club right now. The man has some managerial experience (albeit in the mls) so wouldnt be a rookie in the henry or arteta mode, and might be the right the right choice in this moment of time

PV4 knows what it means to be an Arsenal player, as does Henry. I'd support Vieira, with Henry, Pires, Llundberg, Lehman and Keown as the back room staff. Arteta will follow.
We need to build a dynasty in the way Chapman did, and the way Shankly copied at Liverpool. We've missed out on a generation of Arsenal players who knew what it meant to play for the club PV4 would be a great person to start a new chapter in our history. After all, he's not taking over a club at the top of the league. Far from it.

Keown shouldnt be let into the car park much less into the coaching staff - that b**tard has already shown to prioritise his loyalty to wenker over the good of the club, so he can curl up and die for all I care

[Midz]

Has he gone yet?

Looking forward to the answer being 'Yes'

[Midz]

And no thank you to Brendan Rogers.

[markyp]

not sure if this has been posted anywhere else today but ian wright at long last has not just gotten off the fence and waded in to wenger but has come out with some of the going ons at the club,its is shocking reading,apparently players don't bother truning up to training.pretend they are ill,some have to be dragged out of bed to get to the training ground,WTF! if this isn't the final nail in wengers coffin then I don't know what will be,this is taking the fucking piss,the players really do not give a fuck and that is because they don't give a fuck about wenger,how anybody can now pay to go to watch his charade if true is staggering

[JimmyAFC]

not sure if this has been posted anywhere else today but ian wright at long last has not just gotten off the fence and waded in to wenger but has come out with some of the going ons at the club,its is shocking reading,apparently players don't bother truning up to training.pretend they are ill,some have to be dragged out of bed to get to the training ground,WTF! if this isn't the final nail in wengers coffin then I don't know what will be,this is taking the fucking piss,the players really do not give a fuck and that is because they don't give a fuck about wenger,how anybody can now pay to go to watch his charade if true is staggering

Just saw that as well mate. Was about to post it on here.

Unbelievable. Wrighty would have inside sources as well so I definitely believe what he's saying.

I couldn't believe that sycophant Cross was sitting there smirking as well. Absolute mug that bloke.

We are an absolute shambles at the moment. Very scary times at our former great club

[IW8Goalmachine]

not sure if this has been posted anywhere else today but ian wright at long last has not just gotten off the fence and waded in to wenger but has come out with some of the going ons at the club,its is shocking reading,apparently players don't bother truning up to training.pretend they are ill,some have to be dragged out of bed to get to the training ground,WTF! if this isn't the final nail in wengers coffin then I don't know what will be,this is taking the fucking piss,the players really do not give a fuck and that is because they don't give a fuck about wenger,how anybody can now pay to go to watch his charade if true is staggering

Just saw that as well mate. Was about to post it on here.

Unbelievable. Wrighty would have inside sources as well so I definitely believe what he's saying.

I couldn't believe that sycophant Cross was sitting there smirking as well. Absolute mug that bloke.

We are an absolute shambles at the moment. Very scary times at our former great club

Link?

[Midz]

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footb ... ll+Feed%29

there ya go

[Nos89]

Tales from the rumour mill

Josh Kroenke in town

Wenger will be sacked if he doesn't make the CL.

Arteta is being sounded out as a replacement.


At this point, I wouldn't be against Arteta. Obviously doesn't have much experience but well respected, young and hopefully a breath of fresh air. Has the backroom personnel to make the signings with Sanllehi and Mislintat.

I guess we have to be realistic and acknowledge that diego simeone is but a pipe dream, and I suspect conte would be the same, so for me the only two candidates worth considering are ancelotti and PV4 - originally I had wanted an experienced guy like ancelotti, but now I am leaning more towards appointing PV4. Romford pele spoke last night and supported the idea of PV4, and suggested that he feels that the fans would give him time to get the club back up competing again - we all realise that there is an awful mess there to sort out for the next manager whenever that happens, and if PV4 would be given the time then I would want him as next manager no doubt. Vieira knows the club and it's dynamic, and also knows the lie of the land with the fans - he was universally loved because he fought to win every single day, and we need that type of attitude in our club right now. The man has some managerial experience (albeit in the mls) so wouldnt be a rookie in the henry or arteta mode, and might be the right the right choice in this moment of time

PV4 knows what it means to be an Arsenal player, as does Henry. I'd support Vieira, with Henry, Pires, Llundberg, Lehman and Keown as the back room staff. Arteta will follow.
We need to build a dynasty in the way Chapman did, and the way Shankly copied at Liverpool. We've missed out on a generation of Arsenal players who knew what it meant to play for the club PV4 would be a great person to start a new chapter in our history. After all, he's not taking over a club at the top of the league. Far from it.

Keown shouldnt be let into the car park much less into the coaching staff - that b**tard has already shown to prioritise his loyalty to wenker over the good of the club, so he can curl up and die for all I care

Only added Keown as a defensive coach because if anyone can coach Flamini, Eboue, Senderos and Kolo Toure to keep 10 consecutive in the CL as Keown did in 2005/06 must have something to contribute to this current crop.

[Nos89]

Maybe I'm reading too much into this but with the shambolic form we've witnessed in 2018, Josh Kroneke in town, Ancellotti seen at Arsenal matches with growing frequency...could Wenger be gone sooner rather than later?
Especially, with indiscipline of the players as reported by wrighty.