Anti-Wenger Protest

[shu]

Sad really sad to see some of the stuff on here,means to an end,he deserves it , justifying moronic behavior ,sickens me to my stomach , I thought we had more class,obviously not.

The Clip Ive seen is worse than the one shown on social media , which I presume was put taken by PC plod .
The one Ive seen shows the people doing this who bar 1 none of us know ,however the known one has been contacted and suffice to say he is laden with contrition !

If the planned protest continues in the same vein not only will you alienate yourselves from the rest of the fans base but you run the very real risk of disturbing some old Ogres who are used to dining on Orcs and Trolls .

Piers Morgan is a grade A lying cuntoid !

Dare to shout abuse at Wenger = thinly veiled threats of a kicking?

Just watch out for the fat , bald , ugly zimmer frames coming at you . Yes well done ! Such an intelligent post . Grow up.

[armchair]

My letter about the Wenger protests on today's arsenalnewsreview.co.uk

http://www.arsenalnewsreview.co.uk/inde ... out-Wenger

Think your letter is a bit shit Quartz if Im honest.
What has his age or the fact that hes a father got to do with anything? What has racism or violence got to do with Wenger?

What I see from the letter again is attempts to minimise, excuse, deflect. Then you say but I want him gone?

Im not an AKB but..................

Armchair

My letter is concise and well written.
But is an opinion different from your's and you don't like that.

It has to do with human dignity and being an adult.
Just because others may lose theirs, do we all have to lose control even when feeling strong emotions?
Whatever we may feel about Wenger, he remains a father of a child and a human being, not an inhuman monster.
He is not Stalin, he is a football boss.

And how can you accuse me of wanting him to stay in the job?
That is nonsense, utter nonsense.
Why not read some of the thousands of anti-Wenger posts I have made here over the years?
Just because I don't want violent or vitriolic protest does not mean I don't want protest.

I do accept that he is 99.9% certain to stay in the job until his contract is up, that is my view.

Quartz, afraid you've got it wrong again mate. Lets not over-complicate things.
I dont like your letter because it is full of irrelevant crap like Wengers age, whether hes a father or not, violence, racism etc. Absolutely irrelevant to the verbals he got at Stoke or any other protest against him.

And if you could point to where I "accused" you of wanting Wenger to stay I'd appreciate it. When you cant do that Id appreciate it if you'd take it back. Ta much.
And if you could tell me where the "violent protests" were Id appreciate that too mate.

[clockender1]

My letter about the Wenger protests on today's arsenalnewsreview.co.uk

http://www.arsenalnewsreview.co.uk/inde ... out-Wenger

interesting last sentence - "scenes not in keeping with our usually good natured traditions"

I agree, but wengers management is not in keeping with our usual traditions of honesty, fair play and accountability - instead we get lies, condescension and diversion.

from a moral point of view it is distasteful to slag off a 65 year old man, and not The Arsenal Way, but the OAP in question has a net worth of 36million quid and earns 8,000,000 pounds a year that we pay him.

if his old age is a consideration, perhaps we should no longer employee him ?

[QuartzGooner]

Quartz, afraid you've got it wrong again mate. Lets not over-complicate things.
I dont like your letter because it is full of irrelevant crap like Wengers age, whether hes a father or not, violence, racism etc. Absolutely irrelevant to the verbals he got at Stoke or any other protest against him.

And if you could point to where I "accused" you of wanting Wenger to stay I'd appreciate it. When you cant do that Id appreciate it if you'd take it back. Ta much.
And if you could tell me where the "violent protests" were Id appreciate that too mate.

To me Wenger's age and family man (to a point!, err, allegedly) are relevant.
They say "live by the sword die by the sword" and if a soldier gets shot at than even if I dislike the one who shoots at that soldier there is a consideration that the soldier is a military man with a weapon and is in the combat arena.

He is a football manager and whilst he has lost his temper on occasion, been acerbic and somewhat arrogant in the AGM and in press conferences, it still saddens me to see what is basically a man in late middle age being confronted in such a way, an ambush of sorts.

Me, if I was ever close to Wenger, I would have no hesitation to ask him why he does the things he does and put my own view forward.
He would likely tell me I had not even worked half a minute in football but at least he would know what my actual gripes were, and I would want to know why he had failed to cover seeming obvious deficiences.
I am utterly intrigued to know his side of the story, because to me his management of the team 2008+ has not been logical.

Here is where you accuse me of being an AKB

Then you say but I want him gone?

Im not an AKB but..................

If you did not mean to accuse me of that then it certainly read like that me.

Violent protests?

There are those on here advocating forceful protest, but how close is that to violent protest???....
It is a thin line.

If you have such a strong point of view there is nothing stopping you writing your own letter to arsenalnewsreview

[armchair]

I think you're over-complicating things Quartz. That quote certaintly didnt accuse you of "wanting Wenger to stay"

Yet to see evidence of violent protests against Wenger....
I've been threatened in the stands by those opposed to banners I was showing. Others have been punched. Posters on here have said the guys who shouted those horrible words at Wenger would be dealt with.

If you want to talk about violence. Do it right mate. Talk about "actual" violence not some imaginary "thin line" potential violence that you've made up and hasnt happened.

[QuartzGooner]

I think you're over-complicating things Quartz. That quote certaintly didnt accuse you of "wanting Wenger to stay"

I read like that.
But if you didn't accuse me of it fair enough.

Yet to see evidence of violent protests against Wenger....
I've been threatened in the stands by those opposed to banners I was showing. Others have been punched. Posters on here have said the guys who shouted those horrible words at Wenger would be dealt with.

If you want to talk about violence. Do it right mate. Talk about "actual" violence not some imaginary "thin line" potential violence that you've made up and hasnt happened.

There is nothing imaginary about the "Thin Line."
Am I to live life ignoring warning signs, then complaining when things happen?

You outline what has happened to you, and there were fights between our own fans after the Stoke game.

It is all heading to a bad place and meanwhile hardly any of us even owns a share in the club.

[Henry Norris 1913]

forgive me if I'm wrong but I recall some of the shite Terry Neil had to endure during his last year and it wasnt pretty. Talk about some kind of class we have as Arsenal supporters, there was a lot of vitriol aimed at him, and not just him but a couple of the players

[SteveO 35]

At least the Chelsea fans are always on hand giving him the love and warmth of 30,000 people singing "we want you to stay"

[arseofacrow]

forgive me if I'm wrong but I recall some of the shite Terry Neil had to endure during his last year and it wasnt pretty. Talk about some kind of class we have as Arsenal supporters, there was a lot of vitriol aimed at him, and not just him but a couple of the players

I'm sure Herd was in no way part of any of that and was quietly knitting quilts in the East Stand

[OneBardGooner]

I thought the content of this thread was intended to be solely about Protests against Wenger/Kroenke etc - And we posters were told that if it became just another anti-wenger thread or just arguing amongst ourselves it would be locked or merged with the Wenger Out thread.


Can we get it back on track please.

[markyp]

forgive me if I'm wrong but I recall some of the shite Terry Neil had to endure during his last year and it wasnt pretty. Talk about some kind of class we have as Arsenal supporters, there was a lot of vitriol aimed at him, and not just him but a couple of the players

problem is our new breed of superfans wouldn't even know who T.N is,about 80% weren't even alive then,most wouldn't even know who GG is

[OneBardGooner]

forgive me if I'm wrong but I recall some of the shite Terry Neil had to endure during his last year and it wasnt pretty. Talk about some kind of class we have as Arsenal supporters, there was a lot of vitriol aimed at him, and not just him but a couple of the players

I'm sure Herd was in no way part of any of that and was quietly knitting quilts in the East Stand

I didn't know Herd knitted the infamous 'Terry Neil Out! Quilt' - That was used as a banner! whilst helping to keep supporters warm...

[OneBardGooner]

forgive me if I'm wrong but I recall some of the shite Terry Neil had to endure during his last year and it wasnt pretty. Talk about some kind of class we have as Arsenal supporters, there was a lot of vitriol aimed at him, and not just him but a couple of the players

problem is our new breed of superfans wouldn't even know who T.N is,about 80% weren't even alive then,most wouldn't even know who GG is

I know they think GG stands for gary glitter

[clockender1]

forgive me if I'm wrong but I recall some of the shite Terry Neil had to endure during his last year and it wasnt pretty. Talk about some kind of class we have as Arsenal supporters, there was a lot of vitriol aimed at him, and not just him but a couple of the players

problem is our new breed of superfans wouldn't even know who T.N is,about 80% weren't even alive then,most wouldn't even know who GG is

I know they think GG stands for gary glitter

which is where most of them let the club take them

[augie]

Have to say again quartz, that wenker's age and marital status are totally irrelevant in this or any other debate - he is getting slated for his performance not his age therefore any defence of him should be made based on his positives and not his birth cert. If he was 20 years younger would that make the abuse acceptable ? If he wasn't married or a father would that make it ok ?
Listen the guy was getting abused because he is an absolute shit manager that is dragging OUR club down and is refusing to walk away, so his age, nationality, favourite pastimes etc have nothing to do with it