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Top Londoner wrote:

DB10GOONER wrote:If the personal insults and abuse don't stop I'm locking this thread.

Then lock the fucking thing.

One of the mods on here reckons that, unless you vote to stay in, then you are uneducated.
He judges people through his own eyes and experiences..
Instead of asking about one's background and reasons to vote out, he just calls for Brexit supporters to wear tin foil hats. Great example.

Probably has a property portfolio that's about to go tits up.

We've had depressions in the economy every decade, since the last war, and we'll sure exist the one coming from leaving the Common Market. It's just the greedy capitalists that want to protect their investments and assets, that are screaming like bitches.
Let them burn, and welcome to our world.

Seriously mate, I don't know what I have done to upset you but I know it has happened before.

I have never said that Brexiters were uneducated. Please show me where I did. I used the tin foil hat thing in reply to this post

I can see it being rigged or held again until they get the result they want. This is likely the only time the British can vote on this important issue.

I think the events this week show that there are and will be conspiracy theorists out there.

You know nothing about my background. I am a working class lad who by a huge slice of luck has done well. I have never forgotten where I came from and never will. I have never voted Tory in my life and never will. I want to pay more taxes, I think my house is ridiculously overvalued, oh and I think the people who will suffer most from Brexit are ordinary working class people, who will lose jobs, suffer from spending cuts and empowering the most right wing government we will ever see (Gove and Johnson). If you believe those guys, who want to privatise the NHS, are for Brexit to give it more money well I lose hope.

Anyway if you want to take me on in the 4 Yorkshiremen stakes believe me I have a pretty shit story to tell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

Cardboard box? You were lucky.

Henry Norris 1913 wrote:enjoyed this read https://www.theguardian.com/money/blog/ ... CMP=twt_gu

sorry chippy

Don't apologise. I can see loads of reasons why people don't like the EU. It is a long way from perfect. I'm not quite sure why I am getting so much shit on here for having a perfectly acceptable view. I have never told any one what to do, and like Lefty I have read a lot, worked in France and Holland, and come to a different view to him. That's life but I am firmly convinced that staying in the EU is best for everyone.

Henry, picking up the point of the unskilled worker, it was ever thus, sadly. In my youth I worked on the buses and it was the way in to society for the latest immigrants, Irish, Pakistani, West Indian etc. By the way I find his example of a decorator as being a bit naff. Around here you'd be lucky to get someone to even quote if you weren't talking at least £15 an hour and normally a lot more.

The answer is education which thankfully I got free (thank you Great Britain). Also we need to do more vocational training to help people set up their own building, decorating, hairdressing etc businesses. Spending 5 years sorting out the post Brexit mess will hurt everyone.

Can you not see that there is no guarantee that things will remain the same in the E.U and that should we vote to remain , any hope of making the changes will have gone forever and they will be able to ride roughshod all over us. We are just 1 of 4 nett contributors as the E.u lurches from 1 crisis to the next do you think the price will stay the same ,go down ,or most likely go up.

Top Londoner wrote:

DB10GOONER wrote:If the personal insults and abuse don't stop I'm locking this thread.

Then lock the fucking thing.

Well done. Take a day off.

Whatever the Vote I'm convinced there will be no OUT because the powers that run Dave N George and the country wont let us !
The only thing that might happen is we get a veto on some laws that allow us to deport a few rapists and murderers from the EU from our shores.

One thing that this referendum has shown though is that the legitimate concerns of people of this country regarding immigratrion andf abuse of power in the EU , which has been ignored by both parties for over 30 years will finally be recognised .

People rattle on about the economy of GB suffering if we leave but look at the economies of those who are in it !
Greece is fucked and so is Portugal and Spain ,Ireland and Italy ane on the edge and all have been bailed out once allready, the New Europeans that are having billions poured into them are all suffering too and are leaving their countries beacause there is no future there for them .
Britain is facing austerity measures because our NHS and socail welfare is spiraling out of control .
France Germany Belgium are held together because of massive taxation ,seriousuly what good is the European Union doing for anyone except the IMF and Wolrd Bank who are colonising European economies .
When it expanded the Eurpean union to include Bulgaria Romania etc it made a huge mistake but they cant help it and their idea is to expand more.

I think you have bigger problems than EU to worry about! Wenger is not doing any major signing this summer.

KaQaK wrote:I think you have bigger problems than EU to worry about! Wenger is not doing any major signing this summer.

Of the Leave voters here - if you were offered either Brexit or Wexit this summer which would you take??

Brexit or Wexit? I would vote Brexit we wouldnt be allowed to enter European competitions Wenger would walk, we wouldnt attract foreign players..the end!

Still Brexit :- Wenger won't be here for the next 50 years but my grandchildren will.

Sadly vocational higher education in this country is not in danger of improving any time soon.

Successive governments have harboured an absolute obsession with getting as many kids into the university system as possible - Labour wanted 50% of school leavers going. Nowhere near 50% of jobs in this country actually require 3 years of further specific academic study. I know tens if not hundreds of people who had a great time going to university but frankly completely wasted their time because they came out with a useless degree that wasn't worth the paper it was written on.

Sadly the whole system is set up towards this nowadays and many employers won't even look at candidates unless they have a degree (even if it's a shit degree in a shit subject from a shit university which doesn't vouch for anything other than the student having had a great few years on the piss.

The apprenticeship system is broken because rather than being the revered technical and vocational qualification that it is in other countries and should be here; it is often an excuse for employers to pay somebody less than 3 quid an hour to do a menial job.

A11M11 wrote:Still Brexit :- Wenger won't be here for the next 50 years...

You sure?

Hope so and their kids too.

This is quite funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgKHSNqxa8

Has it's moments but as with all satirical rants it' has the ability to take the juice without adding much to the subject. I was interested in his use of the word might when discussing the amount we would gain from leaving , easy to deride when going for cheap laughs especially when aiming at an American audience that most of the time has little or no interest in anything outside their own borders unless it concerns Mexican's and latinos crossing it..

northbank123 wrote:
The apprenticeship system is broken because rather than being the revered technical and vocational qualification that it is in other countries and should be here; it is often an excuse for employers to pay somebody less than 3 quid an hour to do a menial job.

Quite right. The apprenticeship system in Germany exists in many fields and is held up as a genuine education and job system, and as such is respected by all parties.