THE WENGER THREAD

[augie]

Ben Arfa = Nasri, would have played would have been a very frustrating player for us, highly inconsistent, would have got a booing at the emirates.
Ba - Is average, Giroud is also average so its pointless. Maybe Ba is better than Giroud but Ba can't even stand out against a terrible Torres at Chelsea.

Cabaye - is a good player.

Michu? I really can't this too seriously. Michu looks like a great striker, but he was playing as a attacking midfielder in Spain. If you guys heard Wenger was going to replace RVP with a 2m journeyman midfielder you would have gone nuts. Nobody else took a gamble on Michu and the credit goes to laudrup and his staff.

All in all that list shows that the top quality players that win trophies are very unlikely to be found in the 10-15M let alone the <10M bracket. We'd be a better team with them but not by much.

Chelsea took a gamble on Moses for 2m, and he looks like a player who could look good at......... wigan. Not a Chelsea quality player, useful, but not at the required level.

Arsenal were supposed to be a club challenging for major honours and those players would only help us get flattened by the Bayerns, Utds and Barcelonas of Europe, just like we are right now.

Giroud as good as ba.....are you having a fcuking laff ? Ba might be no rvp but he pisses all over giroud in mobility and goal scoring ability

[begeegs]

Ben Arfa = Nasri, would have played would have been a very frustrating player for us, highly inconsistent, would have got a booing at the emirates.
Ba - Is average, Giroud is also average so its pointless. Maybe Ba is better than Giroud but Ba can't even stand out against a terrible Torres at Chelsea.

Cabaye - is a good player.

Michu? I really can't this too seriously. Michu looks like a great striker, but he was playing as a attacking midfielder in Spain. If you guys heard Wenger was going to replace RVP with a 2m journeyman midfielder you would have gone nuts. Nobody else took a gamble on Michu and the credit goes to laudrup and his staff.

All in all that list shows that the top quality players that win trophies are very unlikely to be found in the 10-15M let alone the <10M bracket. We'd be a better team with them but not by much.

Chelsea took a gamble on Moses for 2m, and he looks like a player who could look good at......... wigan. Not a Chelsea quality player, useful, but not at the required level.

Arsenal were supposed to be a club challenging for major honours and those players would only help us get flattened by the Bayerns, Utds and Barcelonas of Europe, just like we are right now.

To be fair, as much as a *word censored* that Nasri is, he was a skillful player who could be a match winner sometimes. It was a blow to lose him.

I do think that Torres playing more than Ba is because Benitez has to play him. I reckon that this may have been one of the reasons that Di Matteo got sacked. I agree with Augie, Ba is a lot better than Giroud. He isn't World Class, but for the money that he was reportedly sold for, I don't understand why we didn't take the punt on him.

As far as Michu goes, if we had bought him, we wouldn't have been sold the 'we bought him to replace RVP' line until after RVP was sold (which we were with Giroud and Podolski). However, I think that most people here would have been happy with a goal scoring midfielder coming in to add to the squad (led La Liga for goals from midfield - 15). Granted, Wenger would probably having him running down the flanks, but there you go.

I do get what you mean about buying a ready made replacement, but I just do not see Wenger parting with the money to get that player. Unfortunately for him, we now need that World Class player because Giroud isn't that player and won't be.

I didn't mean that all of those players would go straight into our squad - they wouldn't, but some would - Cabaye, Ba, Michu, Cisse (possibly even Sissoko - but too early to call). Not sure about the defenders because I don't think that ability is the problem with our defenders.

[highburyJD]

Ben Arfa = Nasri, would have played would have been a very frustrating player for us, highly inconsistent, would have got a booing at the emirates.
Ba - Is average, Giroud is also average so its pointless. Maybe Ba is better than Giroud but Ba can't even stand out against a terrible Torres at Chelsea.

Cabaye - is a good player.

Michu? I really can't this too seriously. Michu looks like a great striker, but he was playing as a attacking midfielder in Spain. If you guys heard Wenger was going to replace RVP with a 2m journeyman midfielder you would have gone nuts. Nobody else took a gamble on Michu and the credit goes to laudrup and his staff.

All in all that list shows that the top quality players that win trophies are very unlikely to be found in the 10-15M let alone the <10M bracket. We'd be a better team with them but not by much.

Chelsea took a gamble on Moses for 2m, and he looks like a player who could look good at......... wigan. Not a Chelsea quality player, useful, but not at the required level.

Arsenal were supposed to be a club challenging for major honours and those players would only help us get flattened by the Bayerns, Utds and Barcelonas of Europe, just like we are right now.

agree with plenty of this
but think Moses cost over £10M not £2M

[supergeorgegraham]

Its always our defence that will let us down. I hate to say it but Spurs have got it so right in signing Lloris and Vertongon. Cant spell but both of these players should have been signed by us.
Our midfield is very good but Giroud and our defence and goalkeeper will stop any chance of success.

[e2_gooner]

I think we should keep Wenger for another year and see what he does with the money we supposedly have. I'd like to see David Dein back to help him spend it though because I honestly can't see Wenger making a seriously quality signing without some help and the extra encouragement Dein would bring.

[hartygooner]

I think we should keep Wenger for another year and see what he does with the money we supposedly have. I'd like to see David Dein back to help him spend it though because I honestly can't see Wenger making a seriously quality signing without some help and the extra encouragement Dein would bring.

Please no more of this one more summer shit, we have had war chests of upto £70m for the last 4 or 5 transfer windows and nothing has changed why do people still believe this propaganda season after season. Also you just discredited your want for him to have another year by saying you dont trust him to make a quality signing without Dien. I shake my head everytime I have to read shit like this.

Cheers

[e2_gooner]

I think we should keep Wenger for another year and see what he does with the money we supposedly have. I'd like to see David Dein back to help him spend it though because I honestly can't see Wenger making a seriously quality signing without some help and the extra encouragement Dein would bring.

Please no more of this one more summer shit, we have had war chests of upto £70m for the last 4 or 5 transfer windows and nothing has changed why do people still believe this propaganda season after season. Also you just discredited your want for him to have another year by saying you dont trust him to make a quality signing without Dien. I shake my head everytime I have to read shit like this.

Cheers

Shake your head all you want, the fact is Wenger is a quality manager and (since the departure of Dein in 2007) he has made more good signings than shitty ones, i.e. Sagna, Ramsey, Nasri, Arshavin, Kosh, Jenkinson, Santi, however as good as some of these are, non of them are at the standard of quality of the Vieirra's or Henry's even though players like Hazard, Mata and Suarrez (to name a few) were being monitored by us long before they went to their respective clubs. If David Dein was still here i'm pretty should he would have given wenger the encouragement needed to sign these no doubt class players, but instead Wenger felt he had a good enough squad for top 4.

[e2_gooner]

On the other hand, you can't defend him for signing the likes of Squillaci, Sylvestre, Giroud, Gervinho, Chamakh, Cygan, Park. All of which are french league players. I can't help but ask myself whether wenger makes these signings to contribute to the french economy in some wenger french-patriot conspiracy.

[hartygooner]

LOL you name 7 good signings and the majority of them are debatable or not consistant enough. Then go on to name another 7 that you claim not good enough yet you also say there have been more good than bad?

Then you discredit Wenger again by saying he could be in some conspiracy to help the french economy? Every arguement put forward for Wenger these days is totaly wiped out in the next sentance by every AKB. Once people admit to themselves that he may just not be upto the job these days then things will be alot better. It seems your another who still hold onto the memorys of the good times and despite 8 years to the contrary still think he might just find that magic hat?

The team isnt totaly shit and with better tactics and gameplans we could easilly be taking second spot this year the league is terrible. Things need to change and that has to start with the manager.

Cheers

[e2_gooner]

LOL you name 7 good signings and the majority of them are debatable or not consistant enough. Then go on to name another 7 that you claim not good enough yet you also say there have been more good than bad?

Then you discredit Wenger again by saying he could be in some conspiracy to help the french economy? Every arguement put forward for Wenger these days is totaly wiped out in the next sentance by every AKB. Once people admit to themselves that he may just not be upto the job these days then things will be alot better. It seems your another who still hold onto the memorys of the good times and despite 8 years to the contrary still think he might just find that magic hat?

The team isnt totaly shit and with better tactics and gameplans we could easilly be taking second spot this year the league is terrible. Things need to change and that has to start with the manager.

Cheers

I admit, I am torn.

[StuartL]

LOL you name 7 good signings and the majority of them are debatable or not consistant enough. Then go on to name another 7 that you claim not good enough yet you also say there have been more good than bad?

Then you discredit Wenger again by saying he could be in some conspiracy to help the french economy? Every arguement put forward for Wenger these days is totaly wiped out in the next sentance by every AKB. Once people admit to themselves that he may just not be upto the job these days then things will be alot better. It seems your another who still hold onto the memorys of the good times and despite 8 years to the contrary still think he might just find that magic hat?

The team isnt totaly shit and with better tactics and gameplans we could easilly be taking second spot this year the league is terrible. Things need to change and that has to start with the manager.

Cheers

I admit, I am torn.

Are you Natalie Imbulia ?? (mail me )

[TeeCee]

Wenger is a quality manager and (since the departure of Dein in 2007) he has made more good signings than shitty ones, i.e. Sagna, Ramsey, Nasri, Arshavin, Kosh, Jenkinson, Santi

Here's some shit that he has signed since 2007.......and this list does not include contract extensions for other shit like Denilson, Bendtner, Diaby etc etc!!!

Fabianski
Arshavin
Silvestre
Bischoff
Ramsey
Wellington
Squilllaci
Chamakh
Santos
Chu Young Park
Gervinho

[e2_gooner]

Wenger is a quality manager and (since the departure of Dein in 2007) he has made more good signings than shitty ones, i.e. Sagna, Ramsey, Nasri, Arshavin, Kosh, Jenkinson, Santi

Here's some shit that he has signed since 2007.......and this list does not include contract extensions for other shit like Denilson, Bendtner, Diaby etc etc!!!

Fabianski
Arshavin
Silvestre
Bischoff
Ramsey
Wellington
Squilllaci
Chamakh
Santos
Chu Young Park
Gervinho

Other than Ramsey and Arshavin (who saved our season) and maybe Fabianski (we can't say he's 100% useless for sure yet) I agree with that list.

£23m for Giroud+Gervinho is such a joke.

You know what, fuck Wenger

[northbank123]

Wenger is a quality manager and (since the departure of Dein in 2007) he has made more good signings than shitty ones, i.e. Sagna, Ramsey, Nasri, Arshavin, Kosh, Jenkinson, Santi

Here's some shit that he has signed since 2007.......and this list does not include contract extensions for other shit like Denilson, Bendtner, Diaby etc etc!!!

Fabianski
Arshavin
Silvestre
Bischoff
Ramsey
Wellington
Squilllaci
Chamakh
Santos
Chu Young Park
Gervinho

Other than Ramsey and Arshavin (who saved our season) and maybe Fabianski (we can't say he's 100% useless for sure yet) I agree with that list.

£23m for Giroud+Gervinho is such a joke.

You know what, fuck Wenger

Fair enough if you're basing it on his last 2 games but not if you look at his other 61 competitive appearances... he's been at the club 6 years now, I think we can make a judgement!

[SteveO 35]

We've been here several times before with Fabianski (and Mannone for that matter) i.e. they produce 2 or 3 good quality performances, but they always revert to type.

I still think most Gooners would prefer to see them moved on and bring in a genuine long term competitor for the number 1 shirt