Groundhog summer transfer window thread

[Dan_85]

Fear not, the postman is gonna lead us on our title charge.

Wenger: "I am not concerned about that (buying a striker in January). We have at the moment Sanogo, who is coming back from injury soon."

[augie]

We are constantly linked with him but having seen the guy play in both Spain and Italy I just don't think Llorente is good enough for us and certainly wouldn't be an upgrade on Giroud or a partner/alternative to him.

Agree with you on that hlebby

[g88ner]

This is the same shit he comes out with when he us under pressure and most fans are screaming for blood.

Yeah, but it's also the same shit he would say if we were top of the league and doing well (... er, like we are ) so how can you read anything into it?

You can't. He's always kept his cards close to his chest whether he's under pressure or not.

[northbank123]

Or perhaps he is just playing his cards close to his chest - worked with OZil......

I don't think that had anything to do with keeping his cards close to his chest. It was an amazing signing but suddenly very late in the window a world-class player becomes available, we had cash to burn and fans to appease, I don't think Wenger exactly played the long game and revolved all his plans around that.

Equally what would be the point in being coy now? Everyone knows if we don't sign a striker we'll blow our golden chance at silverware and going after players in Jan smacks of desperation at the best of times so what good will it do to pretend we're not in the market?

[Dan_85]

Or perhaps he is just playing his cards close to his chest - worked with OZil......

I don't think that had anything to do with keeping his cards close to his chest. It was an amazing signing but suddenly very late in the window a world-class player becomes available, we had cash to burn and fans to appease, I don't think Wenger exactly played the long game and revolved all his plans around that.

Wenger had nothing to do with signing Ozil, I'm absolutely convinced of it. That deal was done and signed off by IG and Stan with very little, if any, input from AW. They looked around Europe to see what marquee signings were possibly available at that time and went over his head to do the deal in order to appease the fans at a time when the pressure on Wenger was the most intense it's ever been.

You need only look at the whooping and cheering fans outside AG on transfer deadline day. Two weeks earlier they'd all been calling for Wenger's head and now suddenly all was forgiven. The deal was dressed up on Pravda and in the press to make it look like AW had personally convinced Ozil and suddenly it was all "One Arsene Wenger!" again. Stan and IG smirk, rub their hands, and slap that new contract on Wenger's desk.

Of course Ozil has given the team and the fans the morale boost that DB10 did but I'm 100% convinced that if we'd beaten Villa we would never have signed him.

[SteveO 35]

Or perhaps he is just playing his cards close to his chest - worked with OZil......

I don't think that had anything to do with keeping his cards close to his chest. It was an amazing signing but suddenly very late in the window a world-class player becomes available, we had cash to burn and fans to appease, I don't think Wenger exactly played the long game and revolved all his plans around that.

Wenger had nothing to do with signing Ozil, I'm absolutely convinced of it. That deal was done and signed off by IG and Stan with very little, if any, input from AW. They looked around Europe to see what marquee signings were possibly available at that time and went over his head to do the deal in order to appease the fans at a time when the pressure on Wenger was the most intense it's ever been.

You need only look at the whooping and cheering fans outside AG on transfer deadline day. Two weeks earlier they'd all been calling for Wenger's head and now suddenly all was forgiven. The deal was dressed up on Pravda and in the press to make it look like AW had personally convinced Ozil and suddenly it was all "One Arsene Wenger!" again. Stan and IG smirk, rub their hands, and slap that new contract on Wenger's desk.

Of course Ozil has given the team and the fans the morale boost that DB10 did but I'm 100% convinced that if we'd beaten Villa we would never have signed him.

Which fucker has been going round singing that ???

[topgoon]

Or perhaps he is just playing his cards close to his chest - worked with OZil......

I don't think that had anything to do with keeping his cards close to his chest. It was an amazing signing but suddenly very late in the window a world-class player becomes available, we had cash to burn and fans to appease, I don't think Wenger exactly played the long game and revolved all his plans around that.

Wenger had nothing to do with signing Ozil, I'm absolutely convinced of it. That deal was done and signed off by IG and Stan with very little, if any, input from AW. They looked around Europe to see what marquee signings were possibly available at that time and went over his head to do the deal in order to appease the fans at a time when the pressure on Wenger was the most intense it's ever been.

You need only look at the whooping and cheering fans outside AG on transfer deadline day. Two weeks earlier they'd all been calling for Wenger's head and now suddenly all was forgiven. The deal was dressed up on Pravda and in the press to make it look like AW had personally convinced Ozil and suddenly it was all "One Arsene Wenger!" again. Stan and IG smirk, rub their hands, and slap that new contract on Wenger's desk.

Of course Ozil has given the team and the fans the morale boost that DB10 did but I'm 100% convinced that if we'd beaten Villa we would never have signed him.

As scary as that is you are probably right. The only way we are getting proper replacements in January is if we lose Giroud for a few weeks and then lose h/a to someone sh*te. As luck would have it we have Cardiff(h) and Villa(a) as first 2 games in January

[1989]

Ozil has said Wenger promised more big money signings to him when he joined. Don't read too much into the Sanogo talk, Wenger himself knows that the postman will not have a bearing on our season. He's just saying that to make it seem we aren't that desperate for a striker so clubs wouldn't ask the world for their strikers. Wenger's many things but daft he isn't.

[northbank123]

Ozil has said Wenger promised more big money signings to him when he joined. Don't read too much into the Sanogo talk, Wenger himself knows that the postman will not have a bearing on our season. He's just saying that to make it seem we aren't that desperate for a striker so clubs wouldn't ask the world for their strikers. Wenger's many things but daft he isn't.

It's the January window and the whole world knows we're desperate for a striker, unless he goes in for somebody who the club are absolutely desperate to sell we're gonna have to pay well over the odds regardless of what he says in the meantime.

[GranadaJoe]

Or perhaps he is just playing his cards close to his chest - worked with OZil......

I don't think that had anything to do with keeping his cards close to his chest. It was an amazing signing but suddenly very late in the window a world-class player becomes available, we had cash to burn and fans to appease, I don't think Wenger exactly played the long game and revolved all his plans around that.

Wenger had nothing to do with signing Ozil, I'm absolutely convinced of it. That deal was done and signed off by IG and Stan with very little, if any, input from AW. They looked around Europe to see what marquee signings were possibly available at that time and went over his head to do the deal in order to appease the fans at a time when the pressure on Wenger was the most intense it's ever been.

You need only look at the whooping and cheering fans outside AG on transfer deadline day. Two weeks earlier they'd all been calling for Wenger's head and now suddenly all was forgiven. The deal was dressed up on Pravda and in the press to make it look like AW had personally convinced Ozil and suddenly it was all "One Arsene Wenger!" again. Stan and IG smirk, rub their hands, and slap that new contract on Wenger's desk.

Of course Ozil has given the team and the fans the morale boost that DB10 did but I'm 100% convinced that if we'd beaten Villa we would never have signed him.

Very suspect logic. What convinces you that AW had nothing to do with it? Ozil himself said that a conversation with AW, in German, played an important part in his decision to sign. There's plenty of reason to criticize OGL, but evidence should inform our opinions, not the other way round.

[brazilianGOONER]

Wenger had nothing to do with signing Ozil, I'm absolutely convinced of it.

[Dan_85]

Or perhaps he is just playing his cards close to his chest - worked with OZil......

I don't think that had anything to do with keeping his cards close to his chest. It was an amazing signing but suddenly very late in the window a world-class player becomes available, we had cash to burn and fans to appease, I don't think Wenger exactly played the long game and revolved all his plans around that.

Wenger had nothing to do with signing Ozil, I'm absolutely convinced of it. That deal was done and signed off by IG and Stan with very little, if any, input from AW. They looked around Europe to see what marquee signings were possibly available at that time and went over his head to do the deal in order to appease the fans at a time when the pressure on Wenger was the most intense it's ever been.

You need only look at the whooping and cheering fans outside AG on transfer deadline day. Two weeks earlier they'd all been calling for Wenger's head and now suddenly all was forgiven. The deal was dressed up on Pravda and in the press to make it look like AW had personally convinced Ozil and suddenly it was all "One Arsene Wenger!" again. Stan and IG smirk, rub their hands, and slap that new contract on Wenger's desk.

Of course Ozil has given the team and the fans the morale boost that DB10 did but I'm 100% convinced that if we'd beaten Villa we would never have signed him.

Very suspect logic. What convinces you that AW had nothing to do with it? Ozil himself said that a conversation with AW, in German, played an important part in his decision to sign. There's plenty of reason to criticize OGL, but evidence should inform our opinions, not the other way round.

I have no doubt that Wenger probably did speak to him on the phone, once it had been made clear to him by IG/Stan that the signing was gonna happen. Of course he would want to reassure Ozil that he'd been a part of his plans all along and was not simply being used as a pawn to take pressure off the manager. If Wenger really wanted him why would he wait until the last hours of the transfer window? Why not have him in place for the Villa game? Why was there absolutely no talk of Ozil until the final week of the window after Real had signed Bale? Why sign yet another creative midfielder when we were all crying out for a striker? Maybe because Ozil was the only realistic marquee signing that was possible for us at the time?

AW is stubborn, we all know that. Everyone in the press knows that. He hates the transfer window, as he has said himself. He would prefer not to spend big, the only time he does so is when his hand is forced or when the pressure on himself is so great, a la 8-2 at OT in 2011.

[kiwomya]

Or perhaps he is just playing his cards close to his chest - worked with OZil......

I don't think that had anything to do with keeping his cards close to his chest. It was an amazing signing but suddenly very late in the window a world-class player becomes available, we had cash to burn and fans to appease, I don't think Wenger exactly played the long game and revolved all his plans around that.

Wenger had nothing to do with signing Ozil, I'm absolutely convinced of it. That deal was done and signed off by IG and Stan with very little, if any, input from AW. They looked around Europe to see what marquee signings were possibly available at that time and went over his head to do the deal in order to appease the fans at a time when the pressure on Wenger was the most intense it's ever been.

You need only look at the whooping and cheering fans outside AG on transfer deadline day. Two weeks earlier they'd all been calling for Wenger's head and now suddenly all was forgiven. The deal was dressed up on Pravda and in the press to make it look like AW had personally convinced Ozil and suddenly it was all "One Arsene Wenger!" again. Stan and IG smirk, rub their hands, and slap that new contract on Wenger's desk.

Of course Ozil has given the team and the fans the morale boost that DB10 did but I'm 100% convinced that if we'd beaten Villa we would never have signed him.

Very suspect logic. What convinces you that AW had nothing to do with it? Ozil himself said that a conversation with AW, in German, played an important part in his decision to sign. There's plenty of reason to criticize OGL, but evidence should inform our opinions, not the other way round.

I have no doubt that Wenger probably did speak to him on the phone, once it had been made clear to him by IG/Stan that the signing was gonna happen. Of course he would want to reassure Ozil that he'd been a part of his plans all along and was not simply being used as a pawn to take pressure off the manager. If Wenger really wanted him why would he wait until the last hours of the transfer window? Why not have him in place for the Villa game? Why was there absolutely no talk of Ozil until the final week of the window after Real had signed Bale? Why sign yet another creative midfielder when we were all crying out for a striker? Maybe because Ozil was the only realistic marquee signing that was possible for us at the time?

AW is stubborn, we all know that. Everyone in the press knows that. He hates the transfer window, as he has said himself. He would prefer not to spend big, the only time he does so is when his hand is forced or when the pressure on himself is so great, a la 8-2 at OT in 2011.

You are suggesting that Wenger was given a player he didn't want to sign. Why would a stubborn man be happy with that?!

[I Hate Hleb]

Although something similar was touted when we got Arshavin. Personally doubt Wenger would have those above him sign players he didn't rate but perhaps they may have paid more than Wenger might have wanted in order to ease the fan pressure on them?

[Dan_85]

You are suggesting that Wenger was given a player he didn't want to sign. Why would a stubborn man be happy with that?!

I'm suggesting Wenger was given a player who he admires and would no doubt have liked, but wouldn't have bought if he wasn't pushed. And that the signing was completed by his superiors with an alternative motive.

And personally, I'd go along with anything my manager gave me if I was getting £7.5m a year in return.