It's all a load of Cannonballs in here! This is the virtual Arsenal pub where you can chat about anything except football. Be warned though, like any pub, the content may not always be suitable for everyone.
northbank123 wrote:
The apprenticeship system is broken because rather than being the revered technical and vocational qualification that it is in other countries and should be here; it is often an excuse for employers to pay somebody less than 3 quid an hour to do a menial job.
Quite right. The apprenticeship system in Germany exists in many fields and is held up as a genuine education and job system, and as such is respected by all parties.
Is that where you did your apprenticeship in being a rentboy?
Don't know why, but I always got the impression you had done it in Thailand?
I took a couple of days out from this thread because although we are all Gooner's, this debate is probably more divisive than the WO/AKB debate.
When a political issue cost's someones life because they where standing up for what they believed in, you kind of have to put things into perspective.
I'll be glad when it's over tbh. Polls are saying its 50/50 but bookies are saying 80% in favour of remain now. There has been more money wagered on Brexit/Bremain on Betfair than on the first two England games in Euro 2016 combined!
Have to say I found the whole Baroness Warsi 'defection' slightly strange.
In a time when all politicians on both sides are ramming down our throats that this is about issues and not personalities, how does Nigel Farage's behaviour actually affect whether the UK is better off in the EU or not?
Fair enough that she doesn't want to be associated with what she perceives to be a racist, bigoted association, but from what I've seen she doesn't seem to link this to whether Brexit would be a positive or not. Seems a bit strange.
I can't wait till Friday and this shit is finally over.
Totally agree, I am fed up of trying to have a debate with people who cannot coherently argue about making a case for Brexit. There is a minority that can articulate well enough to understand about why they want to leave the EU, but generally it's not project fear more like project clueless. I guess the politicians are to blame for not making things clearer to understand.
It will be funny if the polls are wrong again. I am looking at the bookies who have remain at 75/80%. The bookies rarely get it wrong.
I can't wait till Friday and this shit is finally over.
Totally agree, I am fed up of trying to have a debate with people who cannot coherently argue about making a case for Brexit. There is a minority that can articulate well enough to understand about why they want to leave the EU, but generally it's not project fear more like project clueless. I guess the politicians are to blame for not making things clearer to understand.
It will be funny if the polls are wrong again. I am looking at the bookies who have remain at 75/80%. The bookies rarely get it wrong.
Your problem is you havent a clue what youtr talking about,a common theme that runs right through any subject you touch on ,but thats OK you have every right to be dumb ,embrace it !
People are free to chose as they wish and good luck to them ,it makes ZERO difference because even if the UK Votes out we wont be leaving .
I will Vote out because I dont like a bunch of unelected people making laws that dont benefit me and mine but Im not naive enough to beleive it means anything !
I can't wait till Friday and this shit is finally over.
Totally agree, I am fed up of trying to have a debate with people who cannot coherently argue about making a case for Brexit. There is a minority that can articulate well enough to understand about why they want to leave the EU, but generally it's not project fear more like project clueless. I guess the politicians are to blame for not making things clearer to understand.
It will be funny if the polls are wrong again. I am looking at the bookies who have remain at 75/80%. The bookies rarely get it wrong.
I think you're being "fed up" is partly you're own doing mate. You don't really seem to engage with people. That's just how it appears to me from this thread.
Still, it's nearly all over and we can get back to disagreeing about all things Arsenal.
I can't wait till Friday and this shit is finally over.
Totally agree, I am fed up of trying to have a debate with people who cannot coherently argue about making a case for Brexit. There is a minority that can articulate well enough to understand about why they want to leave the EU, but generally it's not project fear more like project clueless. I guess the politicians are to blame for not making things clearer to understand.
It will be funny if the polls are wrong again. I am looking at the bookies who have remain at 75/80%. The bookies rarely get it wrong.
And this is exactly why Remain is not streets ahead in the polls. Arrogantly lecturing people who are minded to vote leave as though they lack the intellectual capacity to make this decision.
Accusing people with concerns about immigration as intolerant or even racist whilst ramming down their throats what various 'independent' multi-millionaires have to say on the issue - as though that is going to change voters' minds rather than increase their feeling of disengagement of the political class.
I am not for a minute heralding the Leave campaign but people feel incredibly strongly about the issues of immigration and sovereignty, and the remain campaign have been frankly dismissive of people's concerns. Barely anybody can think that leave have 'won' the argument on beckon but hordes will still vote to go because rather than address
You and I clearly will be voting differently - although we disagree on several issues undoubtedly, this is ultimately a matter of perspective and I certainly won't be telling you that you are voting incorrectly or suggesting that you are too thick to properly exercise your right to vote.
For those of you still undecided. This is a really useful little questionnaire that helps you decide where you might be. Also for each question there is a link to more information about that topic.
I can't wait till Friday and this shit is finally over.
Totally agree, I am fed up of trying to have a debate with people who cannot coherently argue about making a case for Brexit. There is a minority that can articulate well enough to understand about why they want to leave the EU, but generally it's not project fear more like project clueless. I guess the politicians are to blame for not making things clearer to understand.
It will be funny if the polls are wrong again. I am looking at the bookies who have remain at 75/80%. The bookies rarely get it wrong.
Your problem is you havent a clue what youtr talking about,a common theme that runs right through any subject you touch on ,but thats OK you have every right to be dumb ,embrace it !
People are free to chose as they wish and good luck to them ,it makes ZERO difference because even if the UK Votes out we wont be leaving .
I will Vote out because I dont like a bunch of unelected people making laws that dont benefit me and mine but Im not naive enough to beleive it means anything !
Here we go again. Everything I have said on this thread is logical and correct. It's not my fault your simplistic mind does not get politics or economics.