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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:03 pm
by QuartzGooner
OK, EDITED AIMS FOR THE FLYER. Gotta log off for night now, things to do.
Flyer design is real simple.
One one side you have the logo plus the dotcom, facebook and twitter accounts.
One the other side you have the below.
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WORRIED ABOUT ARSENAL?
1.) High ticket prices, but are they reinvested in quality new signings to improve the squad?
2.) Too many youth players, not enough experienced professionals?
3.) We respect our social obligations and wider business interests, but is winning trophies still the club's priority?
www.arsenalfcnotplc.com
www.facebook.com/arsenalfcnotplc
www.twitter.com/arsenalfcnotplc
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:05 pm
by Henry Norris 1913
sounds spot on quartz. think most people will be answering yes.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:11 pm
by USMartin
Henry Norris 1913 wrote:Quartz you've done well organising everything better, I think we've got a good amount of people on here that are prepared to actually do things instead of just talking about it.
This must be USM's wet dream

No I have
other inspirations for that

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:33 pm
by 1886
It may be worth trying to get the flyer printed as an advert in one of the pages of the gooner fanzine, as well as handing them out on approaches to the ground. That would be some serious publicity.
If we can show the editor what we are about we could ask for just one ad to be printed to help us get off the mark.
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:36 pm
by flash gunner
Maybe ive missed something but how will you pay to get these flyers printed?
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:41 pm
by 1886
flash gunner wrote:Maybe ive missed something but how will you pay to get these flyers printed?
Those who are serious will be donating(hopefully by paypal if set up) into a fund where the money can be spent on flyers, banners etc.
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:43 pm
by flash gunner
1886 wrote:flash gunner wrote:Maybe ive missed something but how will you pay to get these flyers printed?
Those who are serious will be donating(hopefully by paypal if set up) into a fund where the money can be spent on flyers, banners etc.
Fair enough
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:48 pm
by HashKads
So if anyone knows of any printers who can cut us a deal, drop us a line

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:29 pm
by USMartin
Well I am sure there have to be some printers available how might be sympathetic but what about home PC work. Its not really practical for me being well3000 miles away, but what about forum members who might have PC/Printer access? Just a thought to keep in mind...
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:04 pm
by Arsenal 1991
Dear Ivan
I have read with horror recent reports, including in today’s Daily Mail, that Gold season ticket prices at the Emirates Stadium may well increase next season and that they’ve already gone up for Platinum Club members. As a regular matching going Arsenal fan home and away for more than 43 years, a season ticket holder for thirty years and a shareholder, both personally and via the AST’s Arsenal Fanshare, I’m appalled by the prospect.
I understand that Platinum prices are to be increased by four percent. This is on top of the recent rise in VAT of 2.5%, making a 6.21% increase in total. To me that would represent an increase of £113.38 on top of the £1,825 I already pay, plus the cost of admission for home Carling Cup ties. I simply haven’t got that money. Like many other Arsenal supporters my pay has dropped as I’ve lost a lot of freelance work in the recession.
My bills are going up much faster than the general rate of price increases, particularly my rent and public transport fares, which increased by over eight percent in January following a twenty percent rise the year before. The cost of other essentials like fuel, gas, electricity and food are also going through the roof. My essential costs are going upwards, my income downwards. Next month I’ll take another hit when my employees’ National Insurance Contributions go up, taking more money out of my take home pay.
In terms of value my current seat in block 112 of the East Stand upper tier is substantially inferior for the same cash price I paid at Highbury eight rows from the front of the old East Stand upper tier adjacent to the directors’ box. I’m paying the same for substantially less. I already choose not to run a car, partly as a small and relatively painless contribution to the fight against global climate change, partly because watching Arsenal has become so incredibly expensive.
A close friend of mine who started watching Arsenal as a boy in the late 1960s as I did has three children, the youngest of whom has just started university. He is supporting his middle son in studying for his Master’s degree in international law. He’s an ordinary working bloke like me who loves Arsenal. He works as an administrative officer in a County Court. His wife works part-time in a school as a teaching assistant. He’s facing possible redundancy, increases in his pension contributions and the need to save more for his retirement due to cuts in pension benefits. The club is asking him to choose between his family and Arsenal. Those may appear emotive words but they’re the truth.
The irony is that ticket prices have climbed to their current absurd, rip-off levels at a time when the game is receiving unprecedented injections of cash from broadcasters and sponsors. I’m sure you’ll argue that there are plenty of others on the waiting list who’ll snap up our tickets if we don’t renew. That may be true. I don’t know. I do know that it isn’t my view of the “Arsenal Wayâ€
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:11 pm
by QuartzGooner
Excellent letter.
Good luck to Mr Crescit.
It is a valid point, it is also valid that football has now become comparable to the theatre or opera in terms of prices.
But for all his pain, there are those that can afford it.
But fcnotplc should let the ticket price campaigners do their thing, and we focus our thing, on better players, on winning trophies.
It is our niche amongst arsenal fan groups, our unique selling point.
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:21 pm
by DUFFMAN
Have been reading this thread with interest.
what initially started as a "we want action and f*cking quick"
"we want money spent and f*cking quick"
"we want wenger held accountable for his mistakes"
has turned into a watered down pile of shit
too many youth players?
i'd like more like lansbury,jet and bartley to be given a chance,not held back
we want experience?
then you will get denilshit and diaby and squilachi instead of those youth players because they have the experiance you're calling for.
season tickets are too much?
i'd pay 6% more if i knew it'd be spent on quality players.focus on the money going OUT not IN
so much for us taking our club back ay?
edit; just read that the open letter is not from fcnotplc so apologies.
however, still feel its been watered down too much.was all up for a protest on the terraces(if only) and let wenger.denilson and co know how we really feel about them.
make no mistake.....wenger will not be protested into making any signings and the board will not sack a man who lines their trousers without asking for so much as a plant for his office
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:31 pm
by Arsenal 1991
DUFFMAN wrote:Have been reading this thread with interest.
what initially started as a "we want action and f*cking quick"
"we want money spent and f*cking quick"
"we want wenger held accountable for his mistakes"
has turned into a watered down pile of shit
too many youth players?
i'd like more like lansbury,jet and bartley to be given a chance,not held back
we want experience?
then you will get denilshit and diaby and squilachi instead of those youth players because they have the experiance you're calling for.
season tickets are too much?
i'd pay 6% more if i knew it'd be spent on quality players.focus on the money going OUT not IN
so much for us taking our club back ay?
edit; just read that the open letter is not from fcnotplc so apologies.
however, still feel its been watered down too much.was all up for a protest on the terraces(if only) and let wenger.denilson and co know how we really feel about them.
make no mistake.....wenger will not be protested into making any signings and the board will not sack a man who lines their trousers without asking for so much as a plant for his office
Have a look at
www.wherehasourarsenalgone.co.uk and also
http://twitter.com/blackscarfafc
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:34 pm
by QuartzGooner
Duffman
Wait a few days, check the website and facebook pages for finalised Mission Statements then comment again.
The campaign wants better players and trophies won.
It is not against youth players, it is against involving too many youth players and not enough experienced ones. The youth prospects look great, but unless we get a glut of exceptional players all developing in same way as Wilshere, they have shown they can take us so far and no further.
Balance must be right.
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:37 pm
by frankbutcher
QuartzGooner wrote:Duffman
Wait a few days, check the website and facebook pages for finalised Mission Statements then comment again.
The campaign wants better players and trophies won.
It is not against youth players, it is against involving too many youth players and not enough experienced ones. The youth prospects look great, but unless we get a glut of exceptional players all developing in same way as Wilshere, they have shown they can take us so far and no further.
Balance must be right.
To add to this. The only way you will get widespread support for something like this is using a softly, softly approach. Once we can engage with the Club, we can be more forceful and step UP our efforts in a more DIRECT manner.
THIS IS ABOUT SPREADING A MESSAGE FIRST AND ACTION LATER