Bournemouth A Sat 19th Oct KO 1730

[TeeCee]

It's fairly basic errors by Arteta.
The team was way too defensive, Southgate would have picked that team at Bournemouth.

We need creativity, just having Nwaneri in there would have changed the whole game for us.

Liverpool will be interesting, if Timber is fit he has to play LB and move Calaferrari into the CB role. Salah plays RW and will tear Cala a new one if he starts as LB.
We must only play a double pivot not fucking treble!! In my opinion, assuming fitness, this would be my team for the bindippers....

........................Raya

White.......Calaferrari.....Gabi....Timber

Saka......Rice......Merino.....Martinelli

........,.......... Nwaneri

.,....................................Havertz

If Saka isn't fit then play Bossard behind Havertz and Nwaneri out wide.

[the playing mantis]

Thinking about this more this was an abysmal result red card or not.

Really poor and really concerning. We must beat Liverpool and go on a strong winning run otherwise serious questions to answer over depth and team.

Bournemouth are utter crap and we didn't lay a glove on them.

Massively worrying and the card has glossed over it I think for many. Only one game but we have been crap multiple times. Rice is way off last season player, Jesus is worse than last year, martinelli likewise, merino doesn't look much, yes injuries haven't helped but we only have had 2 or 3 out and we should be able to cover that early season easily..

Im having massive concerns if we don't beat victims and react well

[General]

Their reckoning on the Liverpool incident is that the chavs player (colvill i think)was close to the Liverpool attacker and could have got across to cover ,so therefore they didn't see it as a goal scoring opportunity, whereas with us their reckoning was that there was no way White was going to make it across to cover so therefore saliba was denying a goal scoring opportunity,considering the Bournemouth attacker was still about 35/40 yards away from our goal ,how they could count it as a scoring opportunity is beyond me.

After saying all that we were absolutely rubbish on the day ,pathetic performance

plus sky themselves show the overhead view of where the ball landed and where it was headed, I cant say for sure what Raya and white would have done had play continued but what i can say is that on all the evidence available to myself and there for VAR, it wasnt not a clear scoring opportunity.

But of course the dippers get all the benfit of the doubt and its a completely different scenario, yellow the correct decision. Im just surprised the chav didnt have his wallet knicked while he lay on the ground

Agreed with both of you 100%. The other bit that is really fucking me off is their player didn't even have possession of the ball. How can that be a clear goal scoring opportunity ffs? That far out? Also isn't VAR supposed to only interfere with the refs decision when it's "an obvious error"? How was that an obvious error. Even the spineless commentator cûnt and fucking "please like me" Smudger initially were complementing the ref for only giving a yellow, saying it was the sensible and correct call.

I mentioned this earlier. The briefing at the start of the season is that they want to keep the game flowing and VAR would only get involved if the referee had made a factual error. This clearly was not one of them and there was sufficient doubt to go with the on-field decision. They had to go out of their way to overturn the onfield decision and it was farcical. They did rule out a Bournemouth goal earlier in the season without even referring the on pitch referee to the monitor even though he had initially given a goal. Webb then went on TV and clarified that VAR was wrong to get involved. So within a couple of weeks, they’ve gone into complete reverse mode which shines a brighter light on the chaos Webb is presiding over. When you listen to some VAR radio communication, it’s like a bunch of northerners bickering over who ate the last Yorkshire pudding.

[Retro Gunner]

Didn't post at all about this game, but have decided to vent a few opinions. This result has been coming for a while, regardless of the red card and while I know we've got injuries, after almost five years and £800 million spent, we ought to have a squad better able to cope. DB makes the point well when he says we have a first 11 but that's about it. In my opinion, we don't look as good as last year and while it's good that we've tightened up defensively, we seem to have sacrificed all the fast, attacking verve from two seasons ago.

As others have said, the sending off was very debatable, but doesn't excuse the performance, which was total pony prior to the red. I don't have too many complaints about the red card and I think most of us would accept it IF the rule applied consistently. I've always tried to avoid screaming about conspiracies, but we do seem to be getting targeted for a special application of the rules.

It's all been said on here already, especially by Tee Cee, Step and Mantis...we had no creativity in the middle of the park and absolutely no threat up front. In terms of strikers we are toothless, but while I've banged on about Havertz a lot, it isn't his fault. He worked hard on Saturday, but at this level working hard isn't enough and he simply lacks the necessary quality. As for Jesus, he shouldn't still be at the club.

Too early to judge Merino, but from what we saw on Saturday he looked bang average at best and like a footballer that failed to make the grade at Newcastle and Dortmund. Let's hope he comes good, because Partey is a complete liability. While we're talking about midfielders, this season Rice has looked like the average player that I didn't want us to spend that amount of money on....why? As Mantis says, the summer transfer window was fucking hopeless (with the exception of Calafiori who I like the look of) and the failure to buy the top quality striker and centre mid that we desperately needed is going to cost us.

Don't rule out a scrap for 4th, because I've got a nasty feeling we might be about to see some wheels badly wobble and maybe even fall off.

[Redarmy]

Didn't post at all about this game, but have decided to vent a few opinions. This result has been coming for a while, regardless of the red card and while I know we've got injuries, after almost five years and £800 million spent, we ought to have a squad better able to cope. DB makes the point well when he says we have a first 11 but that's about it. In my opinion, we don't look as good as last year and while it's good that we've tightened up defensively, we seem to have sacrificed all the fast, attacking verve from two seasons ago.

As others have said, the sending off was very debatable, but doesn't excuse the performance, which was total pony prior to the red. I don't have too many complaints about the red card and I think most of us would accept it IF the rule applied consistently. I've always tried to avoid screaming about conspiracies, but we do seem to be getting targeted for a special application of the rules.

It's all been said on here already, especially by Tee Cee, Step and Mantis...we had no creativity in the middle of the park and absolutely no threat up front. In terms of strikers we are toothless, but while I've banged on about Havertz a lot, it isn't his fault. He worked hard on Saturday, but at this level working hard isn't enough and he simply lacks the necessary quality. As for Jesus, he shouldn't still be at the club.

Too early to judge Merino, but from what we saw on Saturday he looked bang average at best and like a footballer that failed to make the grade at Newcastle and Dortmund. Let's hope he comes good, because Partey is a complete liability. While we're talking about midfielders, this season Rice has looked like the average player that I didn't want us to spend that amount of money on....why? As Mantis says, the summer transfer window was fucking hopeless (with the exception of Calafiori who I like the look of) and the failure to buy the top quality striker and centre mid that we desperately needed is going to cost us.

Don't rule out a scrap for 4th, because I've got a nasty feeling we might be about to see some wheels badly wobble and maybe even fall off.

Yes thats just about it Retro....first 11 could probably beat anyone home or away ....but for fucks sake barring Nwaneri the squad is piss poor
very badly prepared for a title challenge....

[OneBardGooner]

Rumours emerging here & there that Arteta lost his rag with Trossard after the game?

[mcdowell42]

BREAKING: Arsenal will not appeal William Saliba’s red card against Bournemouth

[General]

Rumours emerging here & there that Arteta lost his rag with Trossard after the game?

Remember he fell out with the then Brighton manager De Zerbi and that’s how he became available in the grange market. I’ve been observing him closely for a while and whilst he’s chipped in with some vital goals, he is a bit moody and unpredictable, not to mention careless in possession and this won’t go down well with the eagle eyed statisticians at the club. I still don’t think he should be a starter and he does his best work as an impact sub but injuries have forced Arteta’s hand

I also think people are overreacting about the Bournemouth performance. Prior to the sending off we were fully in control and probably should’ve been a goal ahead from the Merino chance. The red card changed everything and we became passive against a patently average side who slowly grew in confidence. City would’ve hammered them with 10men

[Nick Nack]

Rumours emerging here & there that Arteta lost his rag with Trossard after the game?

Diet Pep got rid of ESR & Tierney, and most of Emery's signings, so needs someone else to blame

Only this time it reflects on his choices and selections. No-one was great, but to hang Trossard out to dry when there was clearly a lot worse out there is just fucking shit management and his man management has been highlighted before. Trossard will likely look for a way out as I don't think he takes criticism well

[Nick Nack]

Their reckoning on the Liverpool incident is that the chavs player (colvill i think)was close to the Liverpool attacker and could have got across to cover ,so therefore they didn't see it as a goal scoring opportunity, whereas with us their reckoning was that there was no way White was going to make it across to cover so therefore saliba was denying a goal scoring opportunity,considering the Bournemouth attacker was still about 35/40 yards away from our goal ,how they could count it as a scoring opportunity is beyond me.

After saying all that we were absolutely rubbish on the day ,pathetic performance

plus sky themselves show the overhead view of where the ball landed and where it was headed, I cant say for sure what Raya and white would have done had play continued but what i can say is that on all the evidence available to myself and there for VAR, it wasnt not a clear scoring opportunity.

But of course the dippers get all the benfit of the doubt and its a completely different scenario, yellow the correct decision. Im just surprised the chav didnt have his wallet knicked while he lay on the ground

Agreed with both of you 100%. The other bit that is really fucking me off is their player didn't even have possession of the ball. How can that be a clear goal scoring opportunity ffs? That far out? Also isn't VAR supposed to only interfere with the refs decision when it's "an obvious error"? How was that an obvious error. Even the spineless commentator cûnt and fucking "please like me" Smudger initially were complementing the ref for only giving a yellow, saying it was the sensible and correct call.

I mentioned this earlier. The briefing at the start of the season is that they want to keep the game flowing and VAR would only get involved if the referee had made a factual error. This clearly was not one of them and there was sufficient doubt to go with the on-field decision. They had to go out of their way to overturn the onfield decision and it was farcical. They did rule out a Bournemouth goal earlier in the season without even referring the on pitch referee to the monitor even though he had initially given a goal. Webb then went on TV and clarified that VAR was wrong to get involved. So within a couple of weeks, they’ve gone into complete reverse mode which shines a brighter light on the chaos Webb is presiding over. When you listen to some VAR radio communication, it’s like a bunch of northerners bickering over who ate the last Yorkshire pudding.

Reminds of the Monty Python sketch with the northerners arguing who had it worse off

[xgtdec]

https://www.football365.com/news/arsena ... ournemouth

yeah good one Ramsey,, its a pity he didnt just try to back heel the ball over and over and over a game until one came off and he was classed a great player

[OneBardGooner]

Their reckoning on the Liverpool incident is that the chavs player (colvill i think)was close to the Liverpool attacker and could have got across to cover ,so therefore they didn't see it as a goal scoring opportunity, whereas with us their reckoning was that there was no way White was going to make it across to cover so therefore saliba was denying a goal scoring opportunity,considering the Bournemouth attacker was still about 35/40 yards away from our goal ,how they could count it as a scoring opportunity is beyond me.

After saying all that we were absolutely rubbish on the day ,pathetic performance

plus sky themselves show the overhead view of where the ball landed and where it was headed, I cant say for sure what Raya and white would have done had play continued but what i can say is that on all the evidence available to myself and there for VAR, it wasnt not a clear scoring opportunity.

But of course the dippers get all the benfit of the doubt and its a completely different scenario, yellow the correct decision. Im just surprised the chav didnt have his wallet knicked while he lay on the ground

Agreed with both of you 100%. The other bit that is really fucking me off is their player didn't even have possession of the ball. How can that be a clear goal scoring opportunity ffs? That far out? Also isn't VAR supposed to only interfere with the refs decision when it's "an obvious error"? How was that an obvious error. Even the spineless commentator cûnt and fucking "please like me" Smudger initially were complementing the ref for only giving a yellow, saying it was the sensible and correct call.

I mentioned this earlier. The briefing at the start of the season is that they want to keep the game flowing and VAR would only get involved if the referee had made a factual error. This clearly was not one of them and there was sufficient doubt to go with the on-field decision. They had to go out of their way to overturn the onfield decision and it was farcical. They did rule out a Bournemouth goal earlier in the season without even referring the on pitch referee to the monitor even though he had initially given a goal. Webb then went on TV and clarified that VAR was wrong to get involved. So within a couple of weeks, they’ve gone into complete reverse mode which shines a brighter light on the chaos Webb is presiding over. When you listen to some VAR radio communication, it’s like a bunch of northerners bickering over who ate the last Yorkshire pudding.

Reminds of the Monty Python sketch with the northerners arguing who had it worse off

Eeeee By Ecky Thump They Ad It Fookin' Lucky!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlIXn0r0AY8

[OneBardGooner]

https://www.football365.com/news/arsena ... ournemouth

yeah good one Ramsey,, its a pity he didnt just try to back heel the ball over and over and over a game until one came off and he was classed a great player

True!

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK Is That Useless (*) "Spasmo Welsh Turd" Going On About.... Remember when his nickname was 'mr flicksalot' the times he used to try and beat a player, lose possession then the whole team would have to race & tack back because of his utter stupidity. C.U.N.T


(*) And before any twat accuses me of being Racist That's a term of endearment in Pontyclun

[Retro Gunner]

https://www.football365.com/news/arsena ... ournemouth

yeah good one Ramsey,, its a pity he didnt just try to back heel the ball over and over and over a game until one came off and he was classed a great player

Yeah, another non entity that hung around for years under Uncle Arsene and who's myth was built as a result of a horror injury. From memory, he'd played 22 games for us prior to the broken leg and had shown nothing...in my opinion. However, that dreadful challenge and the horror break turned him into some kind of legend and when he came back it was treated by our supporters as the return of a long lost, conquering hero.

The media also bought into it and he was treated as a top player who they all claimed was a goal threat, which he never was. His average return was about 5 goals per season in all competitions. As for him criticising Gabi and Havertz for failing defensively, that really is rich. He was absolutely hopeless defensively, with no positional sense and hardly ever tackled. He lasted so long because he was one of Wenger's "good boys".

I was chuffed when he left and when people...including some on here....were bemoaning his loss, I said that he get tumbled very quickly by the staff and fans at Juve and that after 2 months he'd be on the bench. Sorry for the immodesty, but that's exactly what happened. I think he lingered there for a couple of seasons (might have spent another season out on loan, can't really remember), but I suppose that's ok when you're on £400k per week!!

[the playing mantis]

Ramsey had a 3rd of a superb season the rest was crap.