The Summer 2014 TRANSFER THREAD

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I'll admit I've seen nothing of him but browsing various forums - including rival teams' - this looks to be a great coup. Think we've bought him with a view to cover CB as well as RB - a journalist intimated he can play even further up the pitch if need be!

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We aren't signing a DM this window. When Khedira priced himself out of a move Wenger managed to convince himself a combination of Wilshere, Diaby, Flamini and Arteta is good enough to plug the gap. Why do you think he started talking about playing Wilshere in a deeper position this week?

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1989 wrote:Sánchez is our striker. Chambers can play RB, LB and CB.

Really excited about this. We haven't had a quality English RB since Dicko, and you don't say no to elite English talent.


Fine but if he is so elite then why buy debouchy ? If he is elite as you claim him to be, then won't he be first choice right back ? If he isn't first choice in any position, then how the fcuk is he gonna develop ? I don't know enough about the kid to grade his talent tbh, but stocking up on talent in one position and ignoring others completely is exactly the same as our ozil purchase last summer and for me it indicates the total lack of a plan for player recruitment :roll:

Btw no club should have to go through the shit that Southampton fans are having to go through this summer - have had a soft spot for them since they turned over manure in 76 cup final, and it must be heartbreaking to see their team being torn apart like this :(

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trustno10 wrote:We aren't signing a DM this window. When Khedira priced himself out of a move Wenger managed to convince himself a combination of Wilshere, Diaby, Flamini and Arteta is good enough to plug the gap. Why do you think he started talking about playing Wilshere in a deeper position this week?
He never did - at least not to my knowledge

John Cross reached into his rectum and pulled that story out: he wrote the whole article without any quotes whatsoever - it's completely fantastical and founded on nothing bar his anemic brain.

John Cross concocts stories out of thin air for a tabloid, that's all you need to know so far as veracity is concerned - nothing in it. It'd be tantamount to be claiming Arteta will me our 3rd choice GK.

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augie wrote:
1989 wrote:Sánchez is our striker. Chambers can play RB, LB and CB.

Really excited about this. We haven't had a quality English RB since Dicko, and you don't say no to elite English talent.


Fine but if he is so elite then why buy debouchy ? If he is elite as you claim him to be, then won't he be first choice right back ? If he isn't first choice in any position, then how the fcuk is he gonna develop ? I don't know enough about the kid to grade his talent tbh, but stocking up on talent in one position and ignoring others completely is exactly the same as our ozil purchase last summer and for me it indicates the total lack of a plan for player recruitment :roll:

Btw no club should have to go through the shit that Southampton fans are about to go through this summer - have had a soft spot for them since they turned over manure in 76 cup final, and it must be heartbreaking to see their team being torn apart like this :(
Sorry meant to say elite young talent.

As for questioning the Debuchy purchase as related to Chambers, what do you want exactly? Chambers only signed for RB and no one else? And then you'll be moaning about the lack of back up/depth! :lol:

If anything this is great, we have a solid international experienced RB being pushed by a top English youngster for the spot. This is exactly the sort of competition we all want in every position. So feck knows what your issue is here.

Compare that to last season, where we had an international experienced but ageing RB backed up by an average player who would struggle to get into some championship sides.

As for stocking up on talent, again what is the problem here exactly? I'd rather stock up on talent than have none of it that's for sure. And anyway assuming Jenkinson is off (whom I'd hardly call a "talent" truth be told :lol:) we'd only have Debuchy and Chambers. Where's this surplus of talent you're moaning about? In the shape of Hector Bellerin?

Honestly I'm truly excited by Chambers joining because I was extremely underwhelmed by the Debuchy signing. I feel Chambers can nick the spot off him in time. Think this hints at Debuchy being a stop gap solution, while Chambers being seen as our long term answer for the position.

The reason why I believe Wenger did the deal now is due to the prospect of him about to have a breakthrough season like the one Shaw just had and doubling his value as a result, meaning we'd have both had to pay a ridiculous amount as well as faced stiff competition for his signature. Thankfully Wenger appears to have forseen this possibility and snapped the lad up quickly and before his value skyrocketed.

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trustno10 wrote:We aren't signing a DM this window. When Khedira priced himself out of a move Wenger managed to convince himself a combination of Wilshere, Diaby, Flamini and Arteta is good enough to plug the gap. Why do you think he started talking about playing Wilshere in a deeper position this week?
Tony Leen - a reputable Irish journo - twitted that we're going for William Carvalho and the issue is the clubs are £10m apart in their valuation of the player. He claims that Sporting are being encouraged to accept our offer (£24m, and we're unwilling to go any higher) because they need the money as they're skint.

If we get him we win the league simples.

Watch this space.

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augie wrote:
1989 wrote:Sánchez is our striker. Chambers can play RB, LB and CB.

Really excited about this. We haven't had a quality English RB since Dicko, and you don't say no to elite English talent.


Fine but if he is so elite then why buy debouchy ? If he is elite as you claim him to be, then won't he be first choice right back ? If he isn't first choice in any position, then how the fcuk is he gonna develop ? I don't know enough about the kid to grade his talent tbh, but stocking up on talent in one position and ignoring others completely is exactly the same as our ozil purchase last summer and for me it indicates the total lack of a plan for player recruitment :roll:

Btw no club should have to go through the shit that Southampton fans are having to go through this summer - have had a soft spot for them since they turned over manure in 76 cup final, and it must be heartbreaking to see their team being torn apart like this :(
I am just staggered that we have spent around 24m on the RB position.

Chambers has played something like 23 first class games, how does he have any more of a chance than Jenkinson or the young Spanish lad of succeeding?

Could turn out to be a great signing but Im not sure its a vital one when we have 2 other positions (DM, CF) that seriously need work on and we have spent a fair bit of the funds on potential.

Good signing or not if we go into the season with Jack/Arteta and Sonogo as our back up options for those dodgy positions than the window has been a disaster even with the signing of Sanchez, if he addresses those areas with real players than wow, what a window.

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1989 wrote:
trustno10 wrote:We aren't signing a DM this window. When Khedira priced himself out of a move Wenger managed to convince himself a combination of Wilshere, Diaby, Flamini and Arteta is good enough to plug the gap. Why do you think he started talking about playing Wilshere in a deeper position this week?
Tony Leen - a reputable Irish journo - twitted that we're going for William Carvalho and the issue is the clubs are £10m apart in their valuation of the player. He claims that Sporting are being encouraged to accept our offer (£24m, and we're unwilling to go any higher) because they need the money as they're skint.

If we get him we win the league simples.

Watch this space.
I really, really hope this goes ahead. A class DM is way more important that a striker to me at the moment. Especially if that striker is a mental knobend like Balotelli. Yes, on his day he is fantastic but you can bet dollars to donuts that at some point he'll go apeshit and get banned for an important run of matches and leave us in the shit.

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Gunnersaurus wrote:
augie wrote:
1989 wrote:Sánchez is our striker. Chambers can play RB, LB and CB.

Really excited about this. We haven't had a quality English RB since Dicko, and you don't say no to elite English talent.


Fine but if he is so elite then why buy debouchy ? If he is elite as you claim him to be, then won't he be first choice right back ? If he isn't first choice in any position, then how the fcuk is he gonna develop ? I don't know enough about the kid to grade his talent tbh, but stocking up on talent in one position and ignoring others completely is exactly the same as our ozil purchase last summer and for me it indicates the total lack of a plan for player recruitment :roll:

Btw no club should have to go through the shit that Southampton fans are having to go through this summer - have had a soft spot for them since they turned over manure in 76 cup final, and it must be heartbreaking to see their team being torn apart like this :(
I am just staggered that we have spent around 24m on the RB position.

Chambers has played something like 23 first class games, how does he have any more of a chance than Jenkinson or the young Spanish lad of succeeding?

Could turn out to be a great signing but Im not sure its a vital one when we have 2 other positions (DM, CF) that seriously need work on and we have spent a fair bit of the funds on potential.

Good signing or not if we go into the season with Jack/Arteta and Sonogo as our back up options for those dodgy positions than the window has been a disaster even with the signing of Sanchez, if he addresses those areas with real players than wow, what a window.
Spent £24m but sorted the RB position for the next decade mate.

And in no way, shape or form can this window be deemed a disaster even if we fail to sign a DM.

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He has a dossier of 30000 players worldwide how come can miss players BEFORE THEY BECAME MEGA?

Suarez [4m]
Schneiderlin [5m]
Lovern [2m]
James
Di Maria
Debuchy
Sterling [a London boy]
etc,etc

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Blade wrote:He has a dossier of 30000 players worldwide how come can miss players BEFORE THEY BECAME MEGA?

Suarez [4m]
Schneiderlin [5m]
Lovern [2m]
James
Di Maria
Debuchy
Sterling [a London boy]
etc,etc

Come again?

Are you criticizing Wenger for not snapping up every single good player before they've devloped? :lol:

The expectations are ridiculous.

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Southampton board should hang their heads in shame.

Lallana and Lambert fair enough,they've done to their time but Chambers,Lovren ,Schneiderlin Wtf. These players are under contract tell them they stick to it or else.

Chambers is stuck behind Clyne,he's coming here to be stuck behind Debuchy. He's not 28/29 he doesn't need a final pay day.He is good so the money will come.

Lovren should have been forced to stay and told he would rot in the reserves. He only signed last year what a complete :censored:. He would eventually have knuckled down because the euro qualifiers start in 2 months,would he really have wanted to lose his place in the national team because of lack of game time or substandard performances.

Schneiderlin is an odd one. The scum on do not need him,Arsenal Fc do not need him. Tell you who need him out of the top 6 Everton,Victims and Manure.

He is a deep lying playmaker, a Carrick or Stevie Mee in his new role at the victims. Carrick's getting past it as is Stevie and Everton just don't have one. McCartney and Barry can't pass water let alone the ball. They are clever destroyers,nothing more nothing less.

We could use Schneiderlin but he would have to be very disciplined and I am not sure if he can. He is used to having Cork/Wanyama do the donkey work. We need a donkey,or what Cantona called water carrier..a Wanyama,Tiote,Gattuso in his prime or the player I spent all of last summers thread pleading for. De Jong. A no nonsense destroyer. Can you see him being pussied about in midfield by the top 4? Shitty didn't have anyone equivalent till they got Fernandinho in.

Back to what I was saying the stripping of The Saints by the big boys and the scum is disgraceful but sadly it's the way of the league worldwide. Good luck to the saints. It's ironic that they like us have owners wealthy enough to really show some ambition but they seem to care more about the money and less about the football.

By the way someone should tell Schneiderlin that he is making a sideways move at best. :twisted:

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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IGvKYVKrEWU

Go to 1m 23 - wenger saying that jack Wiltshire best position in the future is a deep lying midfielder in front of the defence. The rest is blah
I'm a frequent reader but not a poster, however compelled
to this time.

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in my heart wrote:http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IGvKYVKrEWU

Go to 1m 23 - wenger saying that jack Wiltshire best position in the future is a deep lying midfielder in front of the defence. The rest is blah
I'm a frequent reader but not a poster, however compelled
to this time.
Are you a lurker then,you voyeur you :lol:

Only joking.

I can see Jack doing that role but he needs a donkey next to him as he is in no way shape or form a ball winner.

About that video, what was with the stupid camera angle and he's right he hasn't changed, tactics or anything else and he is still as stubborn and resistant to change as a mule.

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Isnt it pretty clear Wenger wants a DM by now? he bid for Bender last summer, enquired about Khedira and respectable sources are claiming interest in 2 others (Schniederlin and Carvalho) i think its a question of who we get not if we get one.

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