As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
LDB wrote:I completely agree that selling RvP to united should never have been an option for our club. We should have sold him for less abroad or held him to his final year and made a real push for the league and try to convince him to stay through showing some ambition.
I feel sick this morning, rage and am hurting, I tried to ignore it....I am not going to lay any blame on Van Perise, the people that deserve the condemnation are both the manager and the board. I honestly think now in hindsight that they practically handed utd the title with that sale.
Now I don't want to get into the arguments of who's final decision it was or wasn't or did Van Perise engineer the move. The angle I am coming from is the lack of honour in Wenger. This is something we are told he had, well, sorry he has none in my view.
Does he realise what he has done to the fans? Does he realise how we will feel on Sunday? He does not care! If he was forced to sell over money (give him the benefit of doubt) because of Kroenke then that in itself is not his fault. What is entirely his fault is the way this has all transpired. We have become largely irrelevant to utd, so much so that fergie even appears to like Wenger now, and why wouldn't he? This should never have happened and I predict on Sunday that the sheep will turn on Van Persie, which is not where the frustration should be directed.
If Wenger sold RVP for any reason other than money, he was wrong. If he was forced to sell by the board then he should have handed in his resignation. This brings me back to to my main point, if it was the latter then not only has Wenger lost any managerial ability he has also lost any sense of honour he had in my opinion and is no less to blame for the current situation we are in than Kroenke and the rest of the cronies on the board.
A shameful period in our recent history and an absolute kick in the teeth to the fans.
This is our club! wrote:I feel sick this morning, rage and am hurting, I tried to ignore it....I am not going to lay any blame on Van Perise, the people that deserve the condemnation are both the manager and the board. I honestly think now in hindsight that they practically handed utd the title with that sale.
Now I don't want to get into the arguments of who's final decision it was or wasn't or did Van Perise engineer the move. The angle I am coming from is the lack of honour in Wenger. This is something we are told he had, well, sorry he has none in my view.
Does he realise what he has done to the fans? Does he realise how we will feel on Sunday? He does not care! If he was forced to sell over money (give him the benefit of doubt) because of Kroenke then that in itself is not his fault. What is entirely his fault is the way this has all transpired. We have become largely irrelevant to utd, so much so that fergie even appears to like Wenger now, and why wouldn't he? This should never have happened and I predict on Sunday that the sheep will turn on Van Persie, which is not where the frustration should be directed.
If Wenger sold RVP for any reason other than money, he was wrong. If he was forced to sell by the board then he should have handed in his resignation. This brings me back to to my main point, if it was the latter then not only has Wenger lost any managerial ability he has also lost any sense of honour he had in my opinion and is no less to blame for the current situation we are in than Kroenke and the rest of the cronies on the board.
A shameful period in our recent history and an absolute kick in the teeth to the fans.
Watching Judas score that hat trick made me feel sick to the stomach, his sale will be a major part of Wenger's legacy. It made me question my hopes as to whether I really want us to finish above the spuds this season.
Wenger does not deserve to escape with any solace this season for what he has done, the fact that as an Arsenal fan I am even forced to thinking like this is a damning indictment of Wenger's policies.
I am so fucking angry I am finding it difficult to even put into words.
Fuck you Wenger, for what you have done, you will leave our club in a worse position than you found it ( and I'm talking football not fucking profits) And for that I will wish you nothing but ill-fortune, misery and failure in everything you undertake in the future.
I honestly wish someone would have asked Wenger who and why van Persie was sold to United. It would put a lot of these theories to bed.
I mean, in the summer Chelsea wouldn't allow Essien ON LOAN to us because of who we are. Yet, Arsenal allow van Persie, at the top of his game, to sign for Man United.
goonersid wrote:Watching Judas score that hat trick made me feel sick to the stomach, his sale will be a major part of Wenger's legacy. It made me question my hopes as to whether I really want us to finish above the spuds this season.
Wenger does not deserve to escape with any solace this season for what he has done, the fact that as an Arsenal fan I am even forced to thinking like this is a damning indictment of Wenger's policies.
I am so fucking angry I am finding it difficult to even put into words.
Fuck you Wenger, for what you have done, you will leave our club in a worse position than you found it ( and I'm talking football not fucking profits) And for that I will wish you nothing but ill-fortune, misery and failure in everything you undertake in the future.
kiwomya wrote:I honestly wish someone would have asked Wenger who and why van Persie was sold to United. It would put a lot of these theories to bed.
I mean, in the summer Chelsea wouldn't allow Essien ON LOAN to us because of who we are. Yet, Arsenal allow van Persie, at the top of his game, to sign for Man United.
I thought it was pretty clear cut. The move was initiated by VanJudas with his disgraceful public statement and ok'd by Wenger. Both to blame, but Wenger more so for allowing a deal with what should be our rival.
goonersid wrote:Watching Judas score that hat trick made me feel sick to the stomach, his sale will be a major part of Wenger's legacy. It made me question my hopes as to whether I really want us to finish above the spuds this season.
Wenger does not deserve to escape with any solace this season for what he has done, the fact that as an Arsenal fan I am even forced to thinking like this is a damning indictment of Wenger's policies.
I am so fucking angry I am finding it difficult to even put into words.
Fuck you Wenger, for what you have done, you will leave our club in a worse position than you found it ( and I'm talking football not fucking profits) And for that I will wish you nothing but ill-fortune, misery and failure in everything you undertake in the future.
goonersid wrote:Watching Judas score that hat trick made me feel sick to the stomach, his sale will be a major part of Wenger's legacy. It made me question my hopes as to whether I really want us to finish above the spuds this season.
Wenger does not deserve to escape with any solace this season for what he has done, the fact that as an Arsenal fan I am even forced to thinking like this is a damning indictment of Wenger's policies.
I am so fucking angry I am finding it difficult to even put into words.
Fuck you Wenger, for what you have done, you will leave our club in a worse position than you found it ( and I'm talking football not fucking profits) And for that I will wish you nothing but ill-fortune, misery and failure in everything you undertake in the future.
goonersid wrote:Watching Judas score that hat trick made me feel sick to the stomach, his sale will be a major part of Wenger's legacy. It made me question my hopes as to whether I really want us to finish above the spuds this season.
Wenger does not deserve to escape with any solace this season for what he has done, the fact that as an Arsenal fan I am even forced to thinking like this is a damning indictment of Wenger's policies.
I am so fucking angry I am finding it difficult to even put into words.
Fuck you Wenger, for what you have done, you will leave our club in a worse position than you found it ( and I'm talking football not fucking profits) And for that I will wish you nothing but ill-fortune, misery and failure in everything you undertake in the future.
We'll merge that so Ted...
I was holding back
Anyone agree with my idea of banning Sid until 7 days after the united game?