Thank you, i dont know how the hard of thinking cant get their head round the ideaarseofacrow wrote:Plus I think you have misrepresented Flash cos I thought he said that he'd rather Wenger had said nothing, not that he was unware of what Wenger was doing.
WOBs (Wenger Out Brigade)GranadaJoe wrote:True AKBs are annoying and regularly appear deluded, but their opposite numbers (has anyone coined a name for them?)
In fairness we were so far behind the curve going into this transfer window..Like every other club on the planet, we haven't solved every perceived weakness in the team in one transfer window, but for once we're ahead of the curve and have done more than our rivals and some people still rack their brains about how to put a negative slant on things.
My mind truly boggles. In what sense do you (not just you in fairness, most gooners) feel confident to proclaim this when the window is still open?? Our Captain and by-a-country-mile best player has announced his desire to leave with only a year left on his contract. Walnutt is the same and while I don't particularly rate him (at least not as much as he rates himself) he would need to be replaced with quality.Not only have we spent big, but we appear to have got good value
He was there out of necessity more then anything, he was supposed to be part of a midfield two. Song constantly wandered too far up field and Arteta being the experienced professional had to keep filling in by himself. He gave it a good go but he is not a defensive midfielder that can hold that space by himself and its an unrealistic thing to expect of him.richpye wrote:Just a question or two for those wanting a new Defensive Midfielder.
1) Wasn't Arteta playing the deeper, more defensive role last season? I seem to remember him playing pretty well that's all
You need either a dedicated defensive midfielder that has energy, pace and can read the game or you play a midfield two where both players take the responsibility of protecting the back four, hold their shape and not constantly getting ahead of the ball. Especially since we have fullbacks who go walkies, which is another issue.2) With a DM, what would be your ideal formation and starting line up? My worry here is that with a dedicated DM, rather than a more defensive ethos when out of possession, we may lose width from the team, which makes us very one dimensional - a problem we have had for a while now
The season before we shipped 43 goals. The season before that 41.I know the old complaint about conceeding 49 goals last season, but for me that had more to do with the fact that we didn't have a settled defensive unit (I think someone said we played 19 different back 4 combinations last season, which is a tad mental). With Sagna's second leg break and Gibbs/Santos not looking the part, my gut feeling is the defensive weakness is more with our full backs than a lack of DM, thoughts?
rigsby wrote:The Sahin deal being based on Song is BS. Its papers putting stuff together. We were linked to him well before Barca started getting uppety.
agreed.the playing mantis wrote:that makes more sense sahin by all accounts is more of a jack type than song type. hes not a pwopa DM.
we will only know whens on pravda so no point us all guessing. the papers change with the wind, last week he wasa dead cert just waiting to be announced, now its all changed.
sign sahin and some mini viera type, keep rvp or replace him well, and we are serious contenders.
even in that case we are too weak imothe playing mantis wrote:that makes more sense sahin by all accounts is more of a jack type than song type. hes not a pwopa DM.
we will only know whens on pravda so no point us all guessing. the papers change with the wind, last week he wasa dead cert just waiting to be announced, now its all changed.
sign sahin and some mini viera type, keep rvp or replace him well, and we are serious contenders.
I do not care if we do not touch our tranfer budget or not we are looking stronger than last year and if we can get 1 or 2 in we could be challenging only miss would be RVP the key will be if we replace him .TeeCee wrote:Yes we have made some decent signings and most of us will be delighted with who has come in so far as they should all be a decent improvement on what we have. BUT.......and there's always a but with Arsenal these days.....at the end of the transfer window, we are likely to have pretty much balanced the books yet again so the argument is still very strong with regards to 'where's the investment'? Selling your best player(s) each season for a large sum of money and signing a couple of 'lesser' replacements isn't really what we are looking for. I'd much rather we sold most of the deadwood (even for knock down prices), get the wage bill down significantly, and invest in top quality to supplement our top players and help to keep them happy. As it is now, it looks like we could finish the transfer window something like this:
SIGNED:
Poldi - £10m
Giroud - £13.5m
Cazorla - 12-15m?
SOLD:
RVP - £20m
Vela - £4m
Arshavin - £4m?
Bendtner - £7m?
Now I'm all for selling Vela, Arsh and Barry B, but what I'd love to see is us KEEPING our top players and then spending £40m, that would be investment. Yet again at the end of this transfer window, unless there are one or more surprise signings coming in, then we could well have spent a net £0 on transfers, meaning the transfer budget has been untouched for yet another season, only to disappear into the ether.....
Just when I though 1 or 2 more decent defensive signings and we could challenge properly for the title...shoulda known better. 
Dont give the deluded old fool any ideas FFSofficepest wrote:I know RvP's going but if Wenger sells him to Utd then he can go fork himself irrespective of the good players brought in already.
Surely it is just a point of principle, can you imagine Lord Fergal of Fergus reciprocating and flogging his best player to us? Wouldn't happen. Ffs for once dig your heels in (I know it's genetic to want to surrender) and tell them to bollocks.
Why not flog Sagna to the Spuds while you're at it?
"I 'av decided to replace ze defence wiz ze Maginot Line and play Napoleon's corpse up front. Zis will be revolutionary and confuse ze opposition"flash gunner wrote:Dont give the deluded old fool any ideas FFSofficepest wrote:I know RvP's going but if Wenger sells him to Utd then he can go fork himself irrespective of the good players brought in already.
Surely it is just a point of principle, can you imagine Lord Fergal of Fergus reciprocating and flogging his best player to us? Wouldn't happen. Ffs for once dig your heels in (I know it's genetic to want to surrender) and tell them to bollocks.
Why not flog Sagna to the Spuds while you're at it?
