The 'I told you so' EU referendum - Officially the Worst Thread Ever

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Remain or leave

Remain
30
37%
Leave
51
63%
 
Total votes: 81

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Nutty,

Who will be rioting ?
What will they be rioting about - the fact that they haven't got poorer ? :D

the only way there will be civil disorder in this country is if Brexit goes ahead. I have consistently stated that.

I agree with your last couple of sentences though - you are right that the EU hold the upper hand in negotiations.
This has been clear from day 1. Anyone thinking otherwise was extremely naive.

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:06 am
Nutty,

Who will be rioting ?
What will they be rioting about - the fact that they haven't got poorer ? :D

the only way there will be civil disorder in this country is if Brexit goes ahead. I have consistently stated that.

I agree with your last couple of sentences though - you are right that the EU hold the upper hand in negotiations.
This has been clear from day 1. Anyone thinking otherwise was extremely naive.
Yeah, they are really going to be throwing bricks at the police in places in Ealing, Hampstead, Chelsea and Islington. I told you the other week why I didn't want to be sat next to left-wing labour activists, middle class liberals and marxists.

Brexit is a working-class revolt against the establishment. There are far more people who can incite violence on the Brexit side than on Remain, all you have to do is look at the fringes of UKIP, who have been seen at far right rallies as recently as August/September.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:10 am
Gunner Rob wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:06 am
Nutty,

Who will be rioting ?
What will they be rioting about - the fact that they haven't got poorer ? :D

the only way there will be civil disorder in this country is if Brexit goes ahead. I have consistently stated that.

I agree with your last couple of sentences though - you are right that the EU hold the upper hand in negotiations.
This has been clear from day 1. Anyone thinking otherwise was extremely naive.
Yeah, they are really going to be throwing bricks at the police in places in Ealing, Hampstead, Chelsea and Islington. I told you the other week why I didn't want to be sat next to left-wing labour activists, middle class liberals and marxists.

Brexit is a working-class revolt against the establishment. There are far more people who can incite violence on the Brexit side than on Remain, all you have to do is look at the fringes of UKIP, who have been seen at far right rallies as recently as August/September.

you really must stop believing all the rubbish you read in the papers.
the people who voted for Brexit are basically the elderly, the apathetic and a few right wing nutters.

the elderly won't cause much trouble, the apathetic will only cause trouble if they start getting poorer (which won't happen if Brexit is stopped) so that leaves a few right wingers. Ok bring it on :box:

Remain voters are the youngest and fittest in society, and growing as a group all the time.
There is only one winner.

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Rob as Flush points out ,Brexit wont be dead if there's no deal ,quite the opposite ,please try and keep up mate .
I believe they are cooking up a fudge deal that will get voted through by Labour rebels and Tory loyal which will be worse than if we never had the Referendum,it will be the worst of both worlds for sure !
The problem both parties have is that both have hard core remain and brexit amongst them and neither can come to terms with that .

It is nonsense to suggest too that all Brexit people are hard core right wingers and racists ,I'm a card carrying labour member since last year ,quite a change from my younger years when i was a centre tory voter ,shit I voted for maggie twice before I rumbled her game.
We live in dark times ,getting out of the imploding mess that is the EU would have been a good start but its been handled so badly and corruptly it will end up harming us all ,one way or another .

The whole right wing bollocks is drawn up by people who dont want to deal with the very real threat we have in this country from open door immigration of Islamist nutters and people from war torn countries who have unleashed an explosion of violent crime in this country over the last 25 years .
If you raise issues on immigration or Islamic terrorism you are labeled as a Nazi and then your view is rubbished, happens everyday in the national media .

Take a look at France ,its a country at war with itself and its getting worse every day , we are next but we refuse to even discuss it ,wonder why ?

Of course we wouldn't have an Islamic threat in this country if the west hadn't invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, turned over Libya, caused unrest in Eygypt and fermented a civil war in Syria and then bombed it to fuck . We also sell rockets and guns to others to make Africa a dangerous place too but we have and continue to do so and its hardly surprising people want to come to Europe because their own countries are ruined !

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:46 am
nut flush gooner wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:10 am
Gunner Rob wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:06 am
Nutty,

Who will be rioting ?
What will they be rioting about - the fact that they haven't got poorer ? :D

the only way there will be civil disorder in this country is if Brexit goes ahead. I have consistently stated that.

I agree with your last couple of sentences though - you are right that the EU hold the upper hand in negotiations.
This has been clear from day 1. Anyone thinking otherwise was extremely naive.
Yeah, they are really going to be throwing bricks at the police in places in Ealing, Hampstead, Chelsea and Islington. I told you the other week why I didn't want to be sat next to left-wing labour activists, middle class liberals and marxists.

Brexit is a working-class revolt against the establishment. There are far more people who can incite violence on the Brexit side than on Remain, all you have to do is look at the fringes of UKIP, who have been seen at far right rallies as recently as August/September.

you really must stop believing all the rubbish you read in the papers.
the people who voted for Brexit are basically the elderly, the apathetic and a few right wing nutters.

the elderly won't cause much trouble, the apathetic will only cause trouble if they start getting poorer (which won't happen if Brexit is stopped) so that leaves a few right wingers. Ok bring it on :box:

Remain voters are the youngest and fittest in society, and growing as a group all the time.
There is only one winner.
Rob have you ever been up North? Brexiteers aren't only old people you know there.

For someone who is a remainer, quite often you're way off the mark. Riots happen in deprived areas of inner cities, which funnily enough are the same places as the disaffected that vote for brexit. Possibly the only exception to this is London but hey, it doesn't take much to spark a riot in Tottenham ehh!

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Can i lock it now? :shock:

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things going as I said they would earlier in the week - no chance of this Brexit deal getting approved in Parliament.
and again PM May has stated that this is the ONLY deal for Brexit.

don't see anybody rioting though so I guess the easiest thing to do is just forget the whole thing and write it off as just a bad mistake. Brexit obviously can't be achieved and it is never going to happen.

What a waste of the last 2 years. the sooner things get back to normal the better it will be for the country.

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flash gunner wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:38 am
Can i lock it now? :shock:
No you can't its got years to go till this is all resolved!

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flash gunner wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:38 am
Can i lock it now? :shock:
:lol:

Lock it ? I've come close to deleting the fucker at least 10 times over the last 2 years mate. :lol:

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So May's done a deal that fucks this country over big time ,tragic stuff .
I hope and pray Parliament rejects it but I reckon that the Labour remainers are going to buck the Whip and vote with the Tory remainers and fuck us all !

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Herd wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:00 pm
So May's done a deal that fucks this country over big time ,tragic stuff .
I hope and pray Parliament rejects it but I reckon that the Labour remainers are going to buck the Whip and vote with the Tory remainers and fuck us all !
Labour wont vote it through, why would they when they can bring down the government by going against TM. Theres a lot of Conservatives that will vote against, the DUP will as will the SNP. Given the slender Tory majority, I just cant see it even coming close. Theres rumoured to be sufficient Tory MPs to motion a vote of no confidence in the PM, and this needs to be a minimum of 48. All of these will vote against the deal.

Basically, the PM is fucked.

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when it is rejected in Parliament there will be 2 clear options - no deal or no Brexit.

the only way that Brexit can survive is if Theresa May is ousted before then and a leaver is made PM.

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Well I hope your right about Labour remoaners Flush but the Labour Party has a long history of shooting itself in the foot and my own MP the lovely munchkin Tulip ,has been quietly canvassing the local party membership about which way to vote and she's a real flip flopper . There are also so many anti Corbyn hardcore remoaners that they just might .

I haven't done the figures but im guessing that at least 100 Tories will go agin the Government but I can see at least 60 Labour who might back May .

After all none of them want to see those lovely well paid Eu Jobs disappear once they lose their seats in the House ,look at Neil Kinnoch and his wife they made a fortune out of the EU over the year's and that's after losing 2 elections !

BTW were you happy with the deal May got ??? Its fucking shit !

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It's been a Machiavellian stitch up from day 1.

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A11M11 wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:34 pm
It's been a Machiavellian stitch up from day 1.
you leavers should be celebrating - you have your Brexit, now get behind it or shut up.

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