As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
MK Gould wrote:A further upside is that if it does all go tits up on Wednesday then at least that will make it more exciting at the Grove in the 2nd leg.
I've spent all of £20 on 3 tickets for that game FFS and winning 3-0 this week will just spoil things..... !
Only joking I know.....but turned out to be true!
MK Gould wrote:My confidence levels have dipped a bit......
Ipswich.... Ok, not a good side, on not a good run - although they don't lose 0-7 every week so that result v Chelsea should probably be dismissed from our thinking. They did after all beat West Brom in the last round didn't they, and they in turn beat us.....
Ipswich will be fighting for their lives tonight - it isn't the 3rd round like last weekend, it's the semi final and a chance of a day out at Wembley, so maybe we shouldn't take a comfortable win for granted. Maybe a draw wouldn't be such a bad result?
We definitely played better against Leeds, that game we had quite a few chances and game could have gone either way. Today, had we even got so much as a draw then it would have been a travesty.
Ipswich may never have had control of the midfield but they defended intelligently, neither Bendtner or his replacement saw the ball anywhere in a dangerous area. We didn't get in good crosses, didn't take advantage of setpeices (so what's new...), we never looked like we had Ipswich consistently last ditch mode after the first two minutes. When we did break through, Walcott could have done better and Cesc twice wasted glorious chances, our captain was dreadful tonight. All our attacking players however did not do nearly enough to be happy with their individual performances
Ipswich were a bit sillly going forward, the occasion got to them a few times, but we were riding our luck before we went 1-0 down as they kept pushing players forward, kept exploiting gaps but lacking a bit of quality. Our keeper was a bit shakey, our fullbacks and dm's pushed forward and our cb's were erratic, one moment making superb tackles, the next struggling against Priskin. We never looked secure and I wasn't surprised when Priskin made it 1-0
Full credit to Ipswich for their adventure, their efforts and their performances. Dreadful by Arsenal
Truth hurts does it? Man up. It's 'fans' like you and teecee that are "killing the club". You're like a cancer.
If Wenger doesn't pick the players you want, he's a c**t.
If he picks the players that you do want, then it's "not his fault" but the eleven on the pitch are a bunch of c**ts.
Basically everyone's a c**t unless we win every single game.
And so it goes on...
I have never called arsene a c**t, it was directed at USMartin. But Arsene is completely responsible for the defeat, they are his players, his project.
Bring Back Pires wrote:I'm ever the pessimist and generally wish that AW would leave. But whilst tonight's performance was unacceptable, it's a two-legged affair. I can't get too excited when we're only half way through it. Obviously, if we don't progress to the final, I'll be rioting in the streets. But until then...
Agreed. I still think we will win the League Cup, but these performances of late and earlier in the season, tell me we won't be winning much more.
Magic Hat wrote:We definitely played better against Leeds, that game we had quite a few chances and game could have gone either way. Today, had we even got so much as a draw then it would have been a travesty.
Ipswich may never have had control of the midfield but they defended intelligently, neither Bendtner or his replacement saw the ball anywhere in a dangerous area. We didn't get in good crosses, didn't take advantage of setpeices (so what's new...), we never looked like we had Ipswich consistently last ditch mode after the first two minutes. When we did break through, Walcott could have done better and Cesc twice wasted glorious chances, our captain was dreadful tonight. All our attacking players however did not do nearly enough to be happy with their individual performances
Ipswich were a bit sillly going forward, the occasion got to them a few times, but we were riding our luck before we went 1-0 down as they kept pushing players forward, kept exploiting gaps but lacking a bit of quality. Our keeper was a bit shakey, our fullbacks and dm's pushed forward and our cb's were erratic, one moment making superb tackles, the next struggling against Priskin. We never looked secure and I wasn't surprised when Priskin made it 1-0
Full credit to Ipswich for their adventure, their efforts and their performances. Dreadful by Arsenal
Spot on. Bad as we were against Leeds, we should still have won. Tonight only one team deserved to win and in truth they should probably be coming to the Grove with a two or three goal lead to protect!
Thats one problem we have, we have no plan B. If our usual way of playing doesn't work, we have nothing. We can't cross so can't take advantage of bentdners and chamakhs aerial prowess either.
[quote="Henry Norris 1913]
actually its fans like you that are killing us. The 1996- JCL redaction c**ts that think its arsene fc not arsenal fc. happy to watch a bunch of diving, bottling c**ts like eboue wear our fucking shirt[/quote]
You're absolutely right. We're all *word censored*. Everyone is a completely useless *word censored*, apart from you. The only person who's been going long enough to be worthy enough to decide who and what is good enough for Arsenal FC.
Wenger out. Keyboard warrior in. It's the only thing that'll save The Arsenal.
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Louder wrote:Well done to the Ipswich players. Our lot , and I include Cesc, had a seriously bad night to the point where they looked unprofessional. In this game you get what you deserve, and Ipswich deserved the win.
Thought Arshavin worked harder tonight but he's obviously out of form and as a result, low on confidence.
Walcott still looked dangerous tonight and was probably our only positive.
Again, well done Ipswich !!
Only positive for me was djourou.
I cannot understand that theo has his full back on a yellow card and he does not attempt to run at him!!!
I think if you are playing a team from a lower division and match their work rate you win 99% of the time.
Bring Back Pires wrote:I'm ever the pessimist and generally wish that AW would leave. But whilst tonight's performance was unacceptable, it's a two-legged affair. I can't get too excited when we're only half way through it. Obviously, if we don't progress to the final, I'll be rioting in the streets. But until then...
With you on this, but I will say one this.
"It's highly unlikely you find just the player you need in January. It's not about spending money, it's about finding just the right player to strengthen a squad that is already very strong."
If he thinks there aren't players out there that can improve us then he is nuts.
Can he find players who will improve the squad who will except making 30 grand a week less than they could elsewhere? The problem at Arsenal is that Bendtner is on 50K a week and Fabregas 80K a week. instead of Bendtner 20K and Fabregas 110K a week. Not the wage bill doesn't go up a penny there.
The problem is players who might come to the club for 100K a week cost more than players who would for 50K a week. So paying Bendtner 30K more and Fabregas 30K less suits the Board perfectly. Mr. Wenger can taker the heat for not chasing players he knows in advance the club won't agree wages with and the Board can insist all kinds of money is available to him.
Arsenal 1991 wrote:Thats one problem we have, we have no plan B. If our usual way of playing doesn't work, we have nothing. We can't cross so can't take advantage of bentdners and chamakhs aerial prowess either.
Bring Back Pires wrote:I'm ever the pessimist and generally wish that AW would leave. But whilst tonight's performance was unacceptable, it's a two-legged affair. I can't get too excited when we're only half way through it. Obviously, if we don't progress to the final, I'll be rioting in the streets. But until then...
With you on this, but I will say one this.
"It's highly unlikely you find just the player you need in January. It's not about spending money, it's about finding just the right player to strengthen a squad that is already very strong."
If he thinks there aren't players out there that can improve us then he is nuts.
Can he find players who will improve the squad who will except making 30 grand a week less than they could elsewhere? The problem at Arsenal is that Bendtner is on 50K a week and Fabregas 80K a week. instead of Bendtner 20K and Fabregas 110K a week. Not the wage bill doesn't go up a penny there.
The problem is players who might come to the club for 100K a week cost more than players who would for 50K a week. So paying Bendtner 30K more and Fabregas 30K less suits the Board perfectly. Mr. Wenger can taker the heat for not chasing players he knows in advance the club won't agree wages with and the Board can insist all kinds of money is available to him.
seriously, I'm going to flyover to america and kick your arse if you don't shut the fuck up.
Bring Back Pires wrote:I'm ever the pessimist and generally wish that AW would leave. But whilst tonight's performance was unacceptable, it's a two-legged affair. I can't get too excited when we're only half way through it. Obviously, if we don't progress to the final, I'll be rioting in the streets. But until then...
With you on this, but I will say one this.
"It's highly unlikely you find just the player you need in January. It's not about spending money, it's about finding just the right player to strengthen a squad that is already very strong."
If he thinks there aren't players out there that can improve us then he is nuts.
Can he find players who will improve the squad who will except making 30 grand a week less than they could elsewhere? The problem at Arsenal is that Bendtner is on 50K a week and Fabregas 80K a week. instead of Bendtner 20K and Fabregas 110K a week. Not the wage bill doesn't go up a penny there.
The problem is players who might come to the club for 100K a week cost more than players who would for 50K a week. So paying Bendtner 30K more and Fabregas 30K less suits the Board perfectly. Mr. Wenger can taker the heat for not chasing players he knows in advance the club won't agree wages with and the Board can insist all kinds of money is available to him.
Martin - seriously now!!! You can not blame that performance on the fecking Board!!
Bring Back Pires wrote:I'm ever the pessimist and generally wish that AW would leave. But whilst tonight's performance was unacceptable, it's a two-legged affair. I can't get too excited when we're only half way through it. Obviously, if we don't progress to the final, I'll be rioting in the streets. But until then...
With you on this, but I will say one this.
"It's highly unlikely you find just the player you need in January. It's not about spending money, it's about finding just the right player to strengthen a squad that is already very strong."
If he thinks there aren't players out there that can improve us then he is nuts.
Can he find players who will improve the squad who will except making 30 grand a week less than they could elsewhere? The problem at Arsenal is that Bendtner is on 50K a week and Fabregas 80K a week. instead of Bendtner 20K and Fabregas 110K a week. Not the wage bill doesn't go up a penny there.
The problem is players who might come to the club for 100K a week cost more than players who would for 50K a week. So paying Bendtner 30K more and Fabregas 30K less suits the Board perfectly. Mr. Wenger can taker the heat for not chasing players he knows in advance the club won't agree wages with and the Board can insist all kinds of money is available to him.
Martin - seriously now!!! You can not blame that performance on the fecking Board!!
Bring Back Pires wrote:I'm ever the pessimist and generally wish that AW would leave. But whilst tonight's performance was unacceptable, it's a two-legged affair. I can't get too excited when we're only half way through it. Obviously, if we don't progress to the final, I'll be rioting in the streets. But until then...
With you on this, but I will say one this.
"It's highly unlikely you find just the player you need in January. It's not about spending money, it's about finding just the right player to strengthen a squad that is already very strong."
If he thinks there aren't players out there that can improve us then he is nuts.
Can he find players who will improve the squad who will except making 30 grand a week less than they could elsewhere? The problem at Arsenal is that Bendtner is on 50K a week and Fabregas 80K a week. instead of Bendtner 20K and Fabregas 110K a week. Not the wage bill doesn't go up a penny there.
The problem is players who might come to the club for 100K a week cost more than players who would for 50K a week. So paying Bendtner 30K more and Fabregas 30K less suits the Board perfectly. Mr. Wenger can taker the heat for not chasing players he knows in advance the club won't agree wages with and the Board can insist all kinds of money is available to him.
seriously, I'm going to flyover to america and kick your arse if you don't shut the fuck up.
Feel free - doesn't change what the truth may be or your shameful ignorance of facts you don't want to deal with
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