Munich at home

[topgoon]

clearly bould has no influence.

Remember early in the season he'd bark some instructions from the touchline, now he sits there never speaking.

Rice and Wenger used to speak all the time!

Bould only there in writing.

But that's my point why doesn't he just tell AW to f**k off. After being part of the best back 4 in the last 30yrs in England, I would be f**king embarrassed to be associated with the crap that passes for defending in our team...even if it is only as assistant manager.

[Steve_I]

How shit are our fans for leaving early! It's the Champions league for fuck sake. It's embarrassing!

Agree 100%. Whatever anyone thinks should or should not happen to, the board , the manager, the players; that leaving early in droves is just something ridiculous imo. I sit there getting mad at fellow apparent fans, it just fucking riles me! Have never understood it and never will.

[donaldo]

Granted we'd be more organised in defence but doubt we would do much better than 3rd/4th, latter stages of a cup but not win it.......that's no different from where we are now.

I disagree topgoon - anyone with a FA coaching badge could prepare this team, study the opposition, organise and drill the defence and bollock the midfield for not tracking back.

Jack, pod, cazorla arteta, walcott, TV5, monreal, Gibbs etc make the nucleous of a decent side - definately FA or League cup winneable and 3rd/4th in the league - which we are no longer btw.

i watch most of our players on international duty and TV5 is a different class in a man-to-man back four in a very good belgian side.

we also have some decent kids who never play - miquel, jenkinson, who if put in a system and given a job to do - "go on son" run at them (ox) or " hassle them, keep on them, keep your foot in, get a reaction" (frimpong etc)

I don't understand how Bould stands for it.

I'd like to think he has too much respect for himself to be an AW yes man yet we concede comical goals, have no organisation, no leaders and are a laughing stock and he sits next to the stubborn old goat and does nothing. WTF

Bould stands for it because he gets a £1m a year to say yes boss.Like Rice before him nothing more than a coneman.If Bould had any balls he would resign.But like everyone at the club he is on the gravy train

[mcdowell42]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer ... ns-league/

[cameron326]

He seems a nice guy, but I can't be the only one getting sick of seeing Giroud's "damn, I just missed another massive chance" face. He puts himself about and gets in decent positions but I'm afraid he seems a woeful finisher.

And at the other end, Szczesny is not good enough for a team challenging for the top 4. Not even close.

[begeegs]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer ... ns-league/

Good article - this sums it up for me...

It was a shambles, and it's hard to know who to blame but the coaching staff. For all the talk of the lack of money Arsenal has spent, much of its underperformance has resulted from errors that would be unacceptable from professionals far lower down the pyramid. Former Arsenal defender Steve Bould was recruited in the summer to improve that aspect of Arsenal's play, but if anything it's even worse this season. Yet really it seems a matter of attitude rather than position of softness. That can be a matter of confidence and morale -- there can be a tendency when things are going wrong to become fatalistic, but then it is up to the manager to encourage his side to take responsibility.

[clockender1]

oh this is new - before we had the media, FA, refs, physically jaded, confidence, the pitch, the weather, the travel, bad luck, over physicality, and now....TA DA !....i give you the fans criticising the team :

"It was of course not the best of preparation mentally because the environment of the team was very difficult before the game tonight, but the players battled very hard, gave absolutely everything."

No Arsene, it wasn't the best of preparation mentally because you didn't study the opposition, practice or allow for set pieces, or provide a system for the players to work in.

you sent them out there yet again and told them to believe in themselves and express themselves. again.

[Supagoon]

He seems a nice guy, but I can't be the only one getting sick of seeing Giroud's "damn, I just missed another massive chance" face. He puts himself about and gets in decent positions but I'm afraid he seems a woeful finisher.

And at the other end, Szczesny is not good enough for a team challenging for the top 4. Not even close.

how true.

Do you remember Bendtner's head in hands look, saying 'how did i miss that??'

you're niklas ****ing bendtner thats why!!!

[VoiceOfReason]

He seems a nice guy, but I can't be the only one getting sick of seeing Giroud's "damn, I just missed another massive chance" face. He puts himself about and gets in decent positions but I'm afraid he seems a woeful finisher.

And at the other end, Szczesny is not good enough for a team challenging for the top 4. Not even close.

how true.

Do you remember Bendtner's head in hands look, saying 'how did i miss that??'

you're niklas ****ing bendtner thats why!!!

Quit the talking and just pay for my fucking pizza would ya.

[clockender1]

How shit are our fans for leaving early! It's the Champions league for fuck sake. It's embarrassing!

Agree 100%. Whatever anyone thinks should or should not happen to, the board , the manager, the players; that leaving early in droves is just something ridiculous imo. I sit there getting mad at fellow apparent fans, it just fucking riles me! Have never understood it and never will.

Steve, to be honest five years ago i would have been one of those people looking daggers at them, but how many times can you pay through the nose to be disappointed - its not like we're paying 15 quid to watch Brentford toil in hope.

plus we have the second largest stadium in the Country, the highest ticket prices, the second highest paid manager in Europe and the fourth highest wage bill in England.

it's not just about one result - its cumulative. norwich, swansea, schalke, bradford, blackburn, bayern, birmingham, milan, the 8-2.

we've beaten just one team in the top 6, we've won just 12 out of 26 games in the EPL - that's 45%.

and we're paying top dollar for the privilige.

[franksav63]

How shit are our fans for leaving early! It's the Champions league for fuck sake. It's embarrassing!

Agree 100%. Whatever anyone thinks should or should not happen to, the board , the manager, the players; that leaving early in droves is just something ridiculous imo. I sit there getting mad at fellow apparent fans, it just fucking riles me! Have never understood it and never will.

Steve, to be honest five years ago i would have been one of those people looking daggers at them, but how many times can you pay through the nose to be disappointed - its not like we're paying 15 quid to watch Brentford toil in hope.

plus we have the second largest stadium in the Country, the highest ticket prices, the second highest paid manager in Europe and the fourth highest wage bill in England.

it's not just about one result - its cumulative. norwich, swansea, schalke, bradford, blackburn, bayern, birmingham, milan, the 8-2.

we've beaten just one team in the top 6, we've won just 12 out of 26 games in the EPL - that's 45%.

and we're paying top dollar for the privilige.

Totally agree, with this CE, supporting this gutless shower of pansies to the hilt doesn't help them one iota, they need to be boo'ed, jeered and have shit and rancid fruit thrown at them... that'll make them player better!

[Dan_85]

Only 3 conceded and we scored one?! We got off lightly!

I wrote on Twitter how it's ironic that Wenger's own ego will be the reason he misses out on the trophy he craves most. Let someone coach the defence properly you stubborn French fuck! You won't get anywhere near the trophy with big ears without a solid defence! You're shooting yourself in the foot at the moment, we might as well just give every team a 2/3 goal headstart with our back four.

Bayern were just as good as I thought they would be. Solid, organised, quick, pressing, harrying, didn't give us any space. And you can pay just £100 for an ST to watch that.

[Barriecuda]

It's a hard line to draw. I think we're all very loyal Arsenal supporters, when push comes to shove, that's not in doubt. But how do you fight the system? We get gouged on ticket prices to see an inferior team produce inferior results. I don't blame people for not going - it appears $$$ is the only thing that the club responds to.

I think if you're going to buy the ticket, you know what you're getting into. You're there, so support the team for the 90. However, if you know they're going to disappoint (as they are now), just don't go at all - save yourself some money while telling the club what you really think of their play lately.

That's the best solution I could come up with I love this club, but fuck is it ever hard/frustrating lately to watch the same manager, the same board, the same story and the same result(s).

[Dan_85]

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[Dan_85]

clearly bould has no influence.

Remember early in the season he'd bark some instructions from the touchline, now he sits there never speaking.

Rice and Wenger used to speak all the time!

Bould only there in writing.

But that's my point why doesn't he just tell AW to f**k off. After being part of the best back 4 in the last 30yrs in England, I would be f**king embarrassed to be associated with the crap that passes for defending in our team...even if it is only as assistant manager.

I'm not so sure that Bouldy will tell AW to fuck off, but if Wenger is still around beyond the summer I don't see Bould staying in the position for more than another year or two. I think he'll say thanks but no thanks...