As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
augie wrote:Btw, I have to admit that my love for cesc is largely gone too, but please stop comparing him, rvp or whoever to cashly cole cos neither are in his class for cuntiness - this was a local guy that had come through the ranks but went to meet the manager of an opposition club (who were our rivals at the time) and did not care how this would look to the club or the fans
Difference is Cashley did get shat on by the club. Whereas the others were given the armband and could have got whatever they wanted to stay. Fuck me Cesc got a spot on the Ken Friar bridge probably in the hope he might stay. Tried to google who else is on his bridge ie whos place did he take but can't find it yet. Something surely needs to be done to get him down.
Cashely is a still a c.unt but if offered the armband and the wages that were agreed he prob would have stayed. Phone c.unt all the same.
augie wrote:Btw, I have to admit that my love for cesc is largely gone too, but please stop comparing him, rvp or whoever to cashly cole cos neither are in his class for cuntiness - this was a local guy that had come through the ranks but went to meet the manager of an opposition club (who were our rivals at the time) and did not care how this would look to the club or the fans
Difference is Cashley did get shat on by the club. Whereas the others were given the armband and could have got whatever they wanted to stay. Fuck me Cesc got a spot on the Ken Friar bridge probably in the hope he might stay. Tried to google who else is on his bridge ie whos place did he take but can't find it yet. Something surely needs to be done to get him down.
Cashely is a still a c.unt but if offered the armband and the wages that were agreed he prob would have stayed. Phone c.unt all the same.
But all three's decision to leave the club was vindicated as they have all gone on to win titles. They couldn't win it with us but have elsewhere. Don't have any animosity for any of them. Clichy, Sagna, Toure all fucked us off for city for nothing and everyone loves them. At least we got £60m for those 3 plus Gallas.
Nos89 wrote:But all three's decision to leave the club was vindicated as they have all gone on to win titles. They couldn't win it with us but have elsewhere. Don't have any animosity for any of them. Clichy, Sagna, Toure all fucked us off for city for nothing and everyone loves them. At least we got £60m for those 3 plus Gallas.
We got £7m and £16m for Clichy and Toure respectively, if memory serves. I'm not sure that "plus Gallas" is anything to brag about to be honest mate; he was an atrocious piece of business.
casgooner wrote:Why was Gabriel up on the half way line when he was sent off? He should have gone back to his defensive position. He'd already been booked, but he carried on walking with Costa. I wonder if he was trying to wind him up to get him sent off and it backfired horribly.
I think the Brazilian vs Brazilian thing has to be considered.
They have a very "macho" culture, and if their pride is called into question they seldom let it lie.
Bit like Zidane not allowing Materazzi to insult his family without rebuttal.
SteveO 35 wrote:Personally I find it very hard to criticise the performance today other than the rag doll defending for the first goal - but hey ho, much better to have some pleasant chaps pave the wave for Zouma to score rather than commit the mortal sin of treading on someone's toe eh ?
Wenger picked the exact starting XI I would have chosen with the probable exception of The Ox for Ramsey. Our best back four was out today and I'm gutted that the Big Soft German will be back as Gabriel sits out 3 games. Still, his nice personality and refusal to bite back will be just what we need up at resurgent Leicester and at the Lane in midweek in the cup we can win. Chavs had 20 decent minutes leading up to half time but apart from Pedro nipping in behind Monreal I never felt they were threatening - a few shots from the edge of the area and no more
Dean ruined the game. Gabriel's not perfect in his reaction but if any of you have played the game and seen someone waving a card trying to get your mates sent off and trying to throw their weight around and cheat and intimidate....and haven't reacted at all....then well done to you all, the saints that you are. How anyone can condemn Gabriel and ignore Costa's antics and Dean's even worse refereeing is mortifying. Costa typifies exactly why I wouldn't watch a Spanish football match if you paid me to go to Barca for the whole weekend all expenses spared - a devious, cheating c.unt who serves only to deceive referees and get opposition players sent off. He'd be right at home with Dani Alves, Busquets and all those other cheating tossers who everyone spunks off to on Sky every Sunday night.
Fair play to the travelling Gooners who were in excellent voice and gave that cheating prick endless stick throughout the second half. I'm sure the cardigan wearers amongst the newbie fan base will tell you to be much more angry with our own player though
Have to agree. There's a difference between what happened with Gabriel and what happened with Santi and Giroudzema. The latter two got themselves stupidly sent off with no provocation, just plain indiscipline and selfishness. Gabriel was severely provoked by an absolute cheating toe rag. Yes yes yes I know, he shouldn't have reacted, but he did because he's human. As SteveO says, anyone that's played the game will have encountered cúnts like Costa and probably had a spat with them. The card waving, the diving, the elbowing and the fake hard man bullshit. It's infuriating when they get away with it because a ref is either shit or cowardly or both. I don't blame Gabriel at all tbh. Nice to see one of ours stand up for a team mate.
The next time he turns out, and for the next few games Costa's antics are going to be under the microscope, less chance what ever he does will not be missed by the officials.
Also lets hope the next time Koscielny plays 3 attackers onside from a dead ball, that will be missed by the officials.
Not criticising him, just trying to put some perspective in.
Bit harsh on Kos re going down, there is a law now for feigning injury, though he isnt one that goes down generally . Additionally he did go over when Costa assaulted him a third time- WTF was the ref assistant and fourth doing then....
Re Fabregas banner, conflicting stories, seems they are on both bridges , removal due to "High winds" though seems thats more hot air than wind
Cant see the banner being there for long, many more diserving over their whole careers. Surprised AFC havent rotated the pics on the banner to keep all old players onside TBH ( ).
Most of the papers I've read this morning seem to be supporting Costa and dissing are players as pansies. (That's me reading between the lines for the last bit, of course)
casgooner wrote:Why was Gabriel up on the half way line when he was sent off? He should have gone back to his defensive position. He'd already been booked, but he carried on walking with Costa. I wonder if he was trying to wind him up to get him sent off and it backfired horribly.
I think the Brazilian vs Brazilian thing has to be considered.
They have a very "macho" culture, and if their pride is called into question they seldom let it lie.
Bit like Zidane not allowing Materazzi to insult his family without re -butt - al.
SteveO 35 wrote:Personally I find it very hard to criticise the performance today other than the rag doll defending for the first goal - but hey ho, much better to have some pleasant chaps pave the wave for Zouma to score rather than commit the mortal sin of treading on someone's toe eh ?
Wenger picked the exact starting XI I would have chosen with the probable exception of The Ox for Ramsey. Our best back four was out today and I'm gutted that the Big Soft German will be back as Gabriel sits out 3 games. Still, his nice personality and refusal to bite back will be just what we need up at resurgent Leicester and at the Lane in midweek in the cup we can win. Chavs had 20 decent minutes leading up to half time but apart from Pedro nipping in behind Monreal I never felt they were threatening - a few shots from the edge of the area and no more
Dean ruined the game. Gabriel's not perfect in his reaction but if any of you have played the game and seen someone waving a card trying to get your mates sent off and trying to throw their weight around and cheat and intimidate....and haven't reacted at all....then well done to you all, the saints that you are. How anyone can condemn Gabriel and ignore Costa's antics and Dean's even worse refereeing is mortifying. Costa typifies exactly why I wouldn't watch a Spanish football match if you paid me to go to Barca for the whole weekend all expenses spared - a devious, cheating c.unt who serves only to deceive referees and get opposition players sent off. He'd be right at home with Dani Alves, Busquets and all those other cheating tossers who everyone spunks off to on Sky every Sunday night.
Fair play to the travelling Gooners who were in excellent voice and gave that cheating prick endless stick throughout the second half. I'm sure the cardigan wearers amongst the newbie fan base will tell you to be much more angry with our own player though
Have to agree. There's a difference between what happened with Gabriel and what happened with Santi and Giroudzema. The latter two got themselves stupidly sent off with no provocation, just plain indiscipline and selfishness. Gabriel was severely provoked by an absolute cheating toe rag. Yes yes yes I know, he shouldn't have reacted, but he did because he's human. As SteveO says, anyone that's played the game will have encountered cúnts like Costa and probably had a spat with them. The card waving, the diving, the elbowing and the fake hard man bullshit. It's infuriating when they get away with it because a ref is either shit or cowardly or both. I don't blame Gabriel at all tbh. Nice to see one of ours stand up for a team mate.
And that's exactly what the cunnt is - If he tried that in the Sunday League I used to play in - he would have had his legs snapped - wither on or off the pitch - The fact that he does this knowing full well he is 'protected' by the officals - is sickening...hence for meI will always consider him a Coward.. Costa the Coward...kind of has a ring to it...when the chavs come to us - There needs to be hundreds, nay Thousands of A4 signs simly saying Costs is a Coward - Done in Spanish...and some made into paper planes so they get launched his way on the pitch - That way the TV/Media Have To Take Note and mention it...
"Costa es un cobarde"
okay so it could be extended to "Costa es un coño Cobarde" (Costa is a Cowardly Cunnt) - but it needs to be media and camera friendly...
It was typical of snidey maureen to say the Coward was man of the match - because he knows there will be plaenty of flak headed their way - and hopefully an FA Ban,
foxinthebox2001 wrote:The next time he turns out, and for the next few games Costa's antics are going to be under the microscope, less chance what ever he does will not be missed by the officials. Also lets hope the next time Koscielny plays 3 attackers onside from a dead ball, that will be missed by the officials.
Not criticising him, just trying to put some perspective in.
And that's not the first time this season that has happened either - I like kos as a defender and I do like his attitude most of the time, but it does seem that he gets a free pass every time he fcuks up and that aint right either.
Re onebards suggestion that costa's performance in a local sunday league game would see his legs snapped in two, can I just say that Gabriel would have been totally exempt from any criticism had he gone down that path - I am not slating him per se, but to defend him because he at least showed some passion, is ridiculous imo. Most Gooners on here that have defended Gabriel, bemoan the fact that we don't have a TA6 or keown etc to sort costa out, but they conveniently ignore the fact that those players would have snapped him in two rather get sent off for a petty flick What he got sent off for isn't the actions of a tough no nonsense player and only appears that way alongside his more pussified team-mates
foxinthebox2001 wrote:The next time he turns out, and for the next few games Costa's antics are going to be under the microscope, less chance what ever he does will not be missed by the officials. Also lets hope the next time Koscielny plays 3 attackers onside from a dead ball, that will be missed by the officials.
Not criticising him, just trying to put some perspective in.
And that's not the first time this season that has happened either - I like kos as a defender and I do like his attitude most of the time, but it does seem that he gets a free pass every time he fcuks up and that aint right either.
Re onebards suggestion that costa's performance in a local sunday league game would see his legs snapped in two, can I just say that Gabriel would have been totally exempt from any criticism had he gone down that path - I am not slating him per se, but to defend him because he at least showed some passion, is ridiculous imo. Most Gooners on here that have defended Gabriel, bemoan the fact that we don't have a TA6 or keown etc to sort costa out, but they conveniently ignore the fact that those players would have snapped him in two rather get sent off for a petty flick What he got sent off for isn't the actions of a tough no nonsense player and only appears that way alongside his more pussified team-mates
Can't agree with the bit about him not being a tough character just because he got caught with a little dig at Costa, it may well have been that his next tackle would have been up around costas kneecap.
In fairness Costa did a lot worse to both our centre halves yet miraculously got away with it, he should have been off well before Gabriel got sent off anyway.
I didn't watch it live cos was at newbury races and then a madness concert bug my son kept me up to date, I did record the game a d just flicked through to the important bits.
I think mike dean gets away with some atrocious decisions and he must surely be a totdumb supporter
I watched the game on BT Sport, there was one part of the incident with Gabriel & Costa that was not shown on any highlight reel, Sky or MOTD. Which I dont understand as this is a pertinent point.
Just before Gabriel got the first yellow, Dean was talking to Costa and Gabriel, he knew Gabriel was brimming over and called captain Carzola over to also have a word with him.
That is why when the highlights show the 2 yellow cards being flashed Carzola is next to them.
Not knowing exactly what Dean said but as he didnt also call Ivanovic, it must have been to tell Santi his man is on thin ice and should calm down. For me, that is the correct procedure, its not his job to calm players down, its more the captains duty.
Santi, without casting aspersions on his leadership qualities chose to say absolutely nothing to Gabriel, thats when he and Costa moved back to the centre spot and carried on their verbals.
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(That's me reading between the lines for the last bit, of course)
What he got sent off for isn't the actions of a tough no nonsense player and only appears that way alongside his more pussified team-mates 